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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:To view the remaining section of the article, you can create an account and login.
    Create an account just to READ something?
    I don't think so.

    Plenty of other venues to get this info from.
  • fumbazfumbaz Member Posts: 52 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    quote:To view the remaining section of the article, you can create an account and login.
    Create an account just to READ something?



    Strange, I can read it without logging in. Yup, you are right. That's unreasonable...

    Here you go:

    quote:
    NRACLU?
    Fourth Amendment, meet Second

    Damon W. Root from the April 2012 issue


    Conventional wisdom holds that the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) occupy opposing sides of the political spectrum. But as the Supreme Court recently discovered, the conventional wisdom does not always reflect reality.

    The NRA and the ACLU have joined forces in the case of Messerschmidt v. Millender to protest a November 2003 search warrant executed by a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department SWAT team at the home of 73-year-old Augusta Millender. The SWAT team stormed Millender's home looking for her foster son, Jerry Ray Bowen, who was wanted for assaulting his girlfriend and was allegedly threatening her with a "black sawed-off shotgun with a pistol grip." Bowen hadn't lived with his foster mother for 15 years, and the officers did not find him there that day. But they did find and confiscate Millender's legally owned shotgun, which she kept for self-defense and which did not match the description of Bowen's gun.

    The issue before the Supreme Court is whether the sheriff's deputies should have realized the warrant they obtained, which allowed them to seize any firearms in the home, was unconstitutionally overbroad. In separate friend-of-the-court briefs, the ACLU and NRA each argue that the search clearly violated Millender's Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.
  • Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by fumbaz
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    quote:To view the remaining section of the article, you can create an account and login.
    Create an account just to READ something?



    Strange, I can read it without logging in. Yup, you are right. That's unreasonable...

    Here you go:

    quote:
    NRACLU?
    Fourth Amendment, meet Second

    Damon W. Root from the April 2012 issue


    Conventional wisdom holds that the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) occupy opposing sides of the political spectrum. But as the Supreme Court recently discovered, the conventional wisdom does not always reflect reality.

    The NRA and the ACLU have joined forces in the case of Messerschmidt v. Millender to protest a November 2003 search warrant executed by a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department SWAT team at the home of 73-year-old Augusta Millender. The SWAT team stormed Millender's home looking for her foster son, Jerry Ray Bowen, who was wanted for assaulting his girlfriend and was allegedly threatening her with a "black sawed-off shotgun with a pistol grip." Bowen hadn't lived with his foster mother for 15 years, and the officers did not find him there that day. But they did find and confiscate Millender's legally owned shotgun, which she kept for self-defense and which did not match the description of Bowen's gun.

    The issue before the Supreme Court is whether the sheriff's deputies should have realized the warrant they obtained, which allowed them to seize any firearms in the home, was unconstitutionally overbroad. In separate friend-of-the-court briefs, the ACLU and NRA each argue that the search clearly violated Millender's Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures.

    Thank you for the info. This 'new breed' of LE has gotten clear out of hand. But this was CA, which even further 'left' than most!!!![V]
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    Is it supposed to be surprising that the NRA and ACLU would be on the same side of an issue?
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
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