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jaegermisterjaegermister Member Posts: 692 ✭✭✭✭
It was only a little over 70 years ago that US soldiers , bayonets fixed , knocked on the doors of American citizens and told them they had a few hours to pack up before being taken to interment camps. Yes, American citizens , with all the rights and freedoms of the constitution. They spent 4 years under armed guard, lost most of their possessions until freed. I met one of those citizens and he will never allow it to happen again.

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  • JuggernautJuggernaut Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by jaegermister
    It was only a little over 70 years ago that US soldiers , bayonets fixed , knocked on the doors of American citizens and told them they had a few hours to pack up before being taken to interment camps. Yes, American citizens , with all the rights and freedoms of the constitution. They spent 4 years under armed guard, lost most of their possessions until freed. I met one of those citizens and he will never allow it to happen again.

    Yes I know all too well unfortunately as some of them were my German relatives which were innocent farmers and that had done nothing despite being German and were persecuted, arrested and incarcerated by the american government.
    To further add to that is that we lost innocent German relatives when britain and the united states decided to burn Dresden Germany to the ground knowing full well that it was not a military target, killing innocent men, women and children.

    My Irish relatives from Northern Ireland and who were also innocent farmers were persecuted in the same manner by the british government to the point of arrests, incarcerations, beatings, houses razed and even death for things as trivial as refusal to speak english and or cooperate with the british government.
    So hopefully we will get to pay both governments back someday for their hospitality and in all fairness in a likewise manner and with the same disregard that they showed us.

    Anyway it could certainly happen again here for all of those naysayers that blindly follow tyrants disguised as your friendly neighborhood government that's 'here to help', so don't be fooled that it will never happen.
    Look at the parallel similarities of whats happening already here right now under the guise of 'gun-control' for a 'safer' america; albeit is occurring ever slowly but nevertheless it is happening.
    And what about the whole war on terror 'safer' airlines nonsense of herding us like cattle with illegal 'mandatory' pat-down searches, detainments, questioning, etc and all without warrant or probable cause.

    And what about the mandatory dui check-points under the facade of 'safer' driving in america; where the jbt can warrantlessly and without probable cause search your car, you and pretty much do whatever else that they see fit for 'safety' concerns.
    And what about the mandatory passports and id with the Radio-frequency identification (RFID) chips, once used for retail and such has now made it to our identification and obviously for monitoring identification and location of persons.

    And what about all of the traffic cameras that can read your license plate and monitor your traveling, not to mention all of the other cameras everywhere that can see what you are doing, going, etc.
    And what about all of these 'gun buy-back' plans for a 'safer' america, whats to say that the jbt wont switch gears suddenly amid-stride from the 'gun buy-back' plan to a confiscation plan.
    The jbt could then defy the 2A/RKBA one day and demand that everyone must turn-in all firearms or else and place anyone on a 4473 form as a potential 'threat' to their 'safer' america.

    I think that these so called 'gun buy-back' plans may be a pre-cursor to possible coming mandatory gun confiscations and either could be under the excuse of a tyrannical u.n. mandate perhaps or by another bs jbt excuse here for their so-called 'safer' america.
    The other control measures also coincide with a totalitarian controlled society and are just a piece of the puzzle for their final solution.
    In conclusion this country seems to be being slowly and carefully 'conditioned' and 'lulled' which started a long time ago for a possible coming jbt tyrannical and authoritarian society.

    And in this new american society everything will be controlled, trolled and known much like that of George Orwell's '1984'; a totalitarian government bent on total manipulation and anyone in opposition will be persecuted, arrested and even executed.
    I would guess that is probably their goal a totalitarian controlled society; so the naysayers need to stop lying to themselves and saying that it cant happen here because it certainly could.

    Regards
  • Horse Plains DrifterHorse Plains Drifter Forums Admins, Member, Moderator Posts: 40,032 ***** Forums Admin
    edited November -1
    It'll never happen in today's America. We have rights!
  • JuggernautJuggernaut Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    It'll never happen in today's America. We have rights!
    [:D]
  • JuggernautJuggernaut Member Posts: 719 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is my answer to the state and federal governments bs excuses for seizing control of the country.....

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    The highest law of the land is the Constitution of the United States. The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute must be in agreement with it to be valid. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail over the other.

    I must say that I prefer the name 'Confederate States' to 'united states' seeing how this government has all but ruined that name, however that is just the colonial/rebellion part I suppose.
    Ancestors that fled the british government through many generations apparently learned nothing from their great forefathers and have now become the tyrannical 'british' government all over again.
    We cant flee this time so I suppose we will have to fight and push the enemy out into the sea if it comes to that.

    Here are some true and effective statements that should at least make a person appreciate our Constitution our Rights and our Republic and to not let them be taken away from us for any reason and by any so-called authority.....

    The Second Amendment - Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them.

    At Thermopylae 1,000,000 Persians lost 20,000; but failed to disarm just 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans. 90,000,000 lawful gun owners will resist even harder. MOLAN LABE! (Come and Take them) - Spartans at Thermopylae

    When the government no longer serves the people the government should be overthrown!

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants!-Thomas Jefferson

    The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control....The day they want my guns, they'll have to bring theirs!!! Proud to be One of the 3%-unknown

    Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.- James Madison

    Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest. - Mahatma Gandhi

    The Constitution shall never be construed . to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. - Samuel Adams

    He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. - the Bible, Luke 22:36.

    A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand. -
    Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4 B.C.-65 A.D.

    "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not."~Thomas Jefferson

    "Those who trade liberty for security have neither." ~ John Adams

    Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

    An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

    Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

    Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.

    You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

    Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

    You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

    Assault is a behavior, not a device.

    64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

    The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

    The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

    What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?

    Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.

    When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.

    The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

    You can get a lot further with a kind word and a gun than just a kind word.

    Regards
  • Mr. PerfectMr. Perfect Member, Moderator Posts: 66,381 ******
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Horse Plains Drifter
    It'll never happen in today's America. We have rights!
    And guns!
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    And fiery auto crashes
    Some will die in hot pursuit
    While sifting through my ashes
    Some will fall in love with life
    And drink it from a fountain
    That is pouring like an avalanche
    Coming down the mountain
  • BGHillbillyBGHillbilly Member Posts: 1,927 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unless the history books have been rewriten, 'the shot heard round the world' supposedly was the start of the American revolution, seems the british wanted to game control of an armory.

    Fast forward a few years and a 'northern sympathiser' tried to cease control of an armory at Harper's Ferry in an attempt to arm an uprising that did not develop and start a civil war but failed.

    You have to look no further than our own country's history to see that a government facing loss of control must secure control of arms. And that an uprising must be large and united to be succesful.
  • BergtrefferBergtreffer Member Posts: 629 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yes, most people now know about the Japanese-American internments during WW-2. But most people do not know about the German-American's and Italian-Americans who were also rounded up and put in concentration camps. It was a Liberal Democrat president that did that. And it was a Liberal-Radical Republican president Lincoln who at the start of the Civil War caused American citizens to be shot down in a massacre because they demonstrated again his draft for military service. Over the course of years the names or titles of the Radical Republican politicians, and the Democrat politicans changed. Lincoln, had been a member of the Whig Party, had not been against secession of states, and had not been against slavery. After he joined the new Republican Party, he fell under the sway of the radical Republican's in the Party, and he had to tote their lines of anti-session and emancipation. The modern parallels of today's radical Democrats with the Civil War era radical Republicans is remarkable.
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