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about this new york bill
1911a1-fan
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i have seen several replies in that thread, and other threads about Kalifornia and Illinois
"they get what they voted for"
so with that logic in mind, when the obomo administration comes down with any type of gun control, or ban we will all get what we voted for???
im sorry but i disagree, and this is the type of attitude that is going to cost us our rights, the entire country should be in new york right now demanding the state not pass this measure for our fellow gun owner, and to protect any other state from following suit
we as gun owners should make the state of new york an example, an example of how we will not tolerate our second amendment being trampled on at any level of any state that is protected by the United States Constitution, not sit here on a keyboard, or signing a petition, or sending a gun lobby money
fyi: i did not vote for obomo, i did not vote for any democrate in illinois
"they get what they voted for"
so with that logic in mind, when the obomo administration comes down with any type of gun control, or ban we will all get what we voted for???
im sorry but i disagree, and this is the type of attitude that is going to cost us our rights, the entire country should be in new york right now demanding the state not pass this measure for our fellow gun owner, and to protect any other state from following suit
we as gun owners should make the state of new york an example, an example of how we will not tolerate our second amendment being trampled on at any level of any state that is protected by the United States Constitution, not sit here on a keyboard, or signing a petition, or sending a gun lobby money
fyi: i did not vote for obomo, i did not vote for any democrate in illinois
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There are several that bash Illinois, the ones that live or have lived here know what it really is like, others go by speculation.
Illinois is run by Chicago, we dont like it and trying to change every chance we get, Chicago right now is a city of puppets mastered by either Obama or the gangs.
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i have seen several replies in that thread, and other threads about Kalifornia and Illinois
"they get what they voted for"
so with that logic in mind, when the obomo administration comes down with any type of gun control, or ban we will all get what we voted for???
im sorry but i disagree, and this is the type of attitude that is going to cost us our rights, the entire country should be in new york right now demanding the state not pass this measure for our fellow gun owner, and to protect any other state from following suit
we as gun owners should make the state of new york an example, an example of how we will not tolerate our second amendment being trampled on at any level of any state that is protected by the United States Constitution, not sit here on a keyboard, or signing a petition, or sending a gun lobby money
fyi: i did not vote for obomo, i did not vote for any democrate in illinois
thank you guys!! It is a call to do what is right!! Come help your brothers here in this fight!!
quote:Originally posted by 1911a1fan
i have seen several replies in that thread, and other threads about Kalifornia and Illinois
"they get what they voted for"
so with that logic in mind, when the obomo administration comes down with any type of gun control, or ban we will all get what we voted for???
im sorry but i disagree, and this is the type of attitude that is going to cost us our rights, the entire country should be in new york right now demanding the state not pass this measure for our fellow gun owner, and to protect any other state from following suit
we as gun owners should make the state of new york an example, an example of how we will not tolerate our second amendment being trampled on at any level of any state that is protected by the United States Constitution, not sit here on a keyboard, or signing a petition, or sending a gun lobby money
fyi: i did not vote for obomo, i did not vote for any democrate in illinois
I couldn't agree more. There is a huge percentage of population that doesn't deserve what they are getting whether it's States or Federal, it is not what they voted for. I'll continue doing what I can while not bashing others that live in areas like NY, I understand that packing up and moving is much easier said than done. These guys in NY, they are just the first. We'll see this type of legislation creep all over the Country, this while gun owners remain divided by weapons interest and physical locale.
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I think there is a growing segment of the population -- perhaps, even a silent majority -- who see the current actions by the socialists, like Obama or Cuomo, as getting very close to their personal "line in the sand."
People may not be commenting out loud, or going to protest rallies, but there is growing disgust with the levels of "control" the left is seeking (and gaining in some places) over the population.
We may see some situations where people reach "breaking points." The political left have their heads stuck so far up each others a**es, they are missing some of the undercurrents building at their feet.
It is hard to say how events will play out, but we could see some "interesting" events happen in response to these extreme "grabs for power" the left is engaging in.
Right now we need support, not State Bashing. This may be starting here but it will be coming to everyone sooner or later. I've written to every single elected official to voice my displeasure. I hope we all are doing the same.
This law makes my 22 Bolt action rifle an assault weapon because it has a 10 round Mag. Just craziness.
I guess it will be a matter for the Courts now.
NO !! IT'S A MATTER FOR YOU TO LET YOUR REPS. KNOW YOUR BELIEFS!!
Know what really frosts my butt?? It takes YEARS for worthwhile legislation that protects innocents & children to pass thru the NY Government.
But, when they WANT to take away our rights, it only takes 1 month.
All of our politicians are puppets & mouthpieces to the HUGE New York population that is living off a Government check, paycheck or otherwise. If you want to be elected in NY, you simply BUY the votes with patronage & entitlements.
I wonder how mass civil disobedience would work. There isn't enough room in the jails for all the gun owners if all of them refuse to comply.
Along time ago, a group of AMERICANS took a load of British tea and dumped it into a harbor, so as to not pay taxes on it. The tea tax of the time was LAW, all tho not voted by the tax payers. Just as some laws being passed today, are not the will of the governed.
It is time to show the government again, where their power comes from....
I wonder how mass civil disobedience would work. There isn't enough room in the jails for all the gun owners if all of them refuse to comply.
No one said anything about being disobedient, peacefully protest worked for civil rights in the 60's, it was much harder being black then, than being a gun owner now
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the real danger here is that obama will appoint another supreme court justice, then the new law in NY will stand and if he gets a majority in the US House in 2 years this could go nation wide. If you dont think it could happen, it can. why are people in NY not marching on their capitol, we can't help if they don't do anything
This bill was introduced last night and will probably be signed into law tonight. Not a whole lot of time to organize a protest. Our only hope is court challenges.
""I guess it will be a matter for the Courts now.""
NO !! IT'S A MATTER FOR YOU TO LET YOUR REPS. KNOW YOUR BELIEFS!!
I wrote that because it seemed to be a done deal at that point.
I and everyone that I know wrote, e- mailed, petitioned and called every Politician we could reach, to voice our displeasure with this legislation, in the days and weeks leading up to this.
Unfortunately it did nothing, these votes weren't even close and were passed with bipartisan support. Outside of a few vocal opponents this thing sailed through with help from both sides. Right now a NY Senator - Kathleen Marchione (I'm not sure I spelled that right) has started a petition to overturn it.
There is plenty of NY bashing going around on all of the various Boards, but this is coming for everyone, not just us. We have to find a way to peacefully start fighting these laws together.
I live in Upstate New York.
Know what really frosts my butt?? It takes YEARS for worthwhile legislation that protects innocents & children to pass thru the NY Government.
But, when they WANT to take away our rights, it only takes 1 month.
You have my sympathy, and the "they got what they voted for" posts burn my *, too. The speed of this legislation, and the blatant disregard for thoughtful process, is appalling. Cuomo has been the pointman for this mess, and he publicly bragged about disregarding the 3-day public comment period that was supposed to be required for new laws in NY. To have such a massive and disruptive law like this put in place in a couple of short weeks is truly frightening.
My stomach was churning yesterday as I watched this unfold. The elite in eastern and urban NY have made millions of good people instant criminals and/or subjects with this legislation.
As someone who lives next door in rural PA, I am thankful for the state government we have, but also very aware that Philthadelphia plays the same role in our state's politics as NYC does in NYS. For now, we are keeping the wolves at bay in PA, but I'm not sure I can say the same about Washington DC. I've written to my federal legislators, and am fairly confident about my house representative, but much less so about my two senators.
I'm afraid I have little advice. Perhaps en masse public demonstrations in Albany are in order. Unfortunately, the press will paint any size crowd as a bunch of redneck gun nuts. Even if it worked, I just wonder how many of the hunters with deer rifles and pump shotguns would get on board and help. Otherwise, I don't know what can be done to change minds or the law.
Sad thing was I had seen the future in Illinois and slowly watched as many of the same laws were put in place/enforced in Arkansas, usually as a result of federal mandate.
Basically if you don't like the laws of your state and can't change them move to a different state. Heck our ancestors left thier countries and crossed oceans to seek freedom. And If you as freethinking men leave the sheeple states then it will increase the voter block of gun owners in current free states. Unfortunitly we do not have the option of stealing land from more primitive natives on a new continent.
Go to ruger.com and sign the petition, last check was over 400,000 signatures. Probably won't help but will send a message.
Maybe someone will read the Constitution and Bill of Rights to obammy and all of his illegal alien family members.
All he wants is a disarmed population to finance the UN by taxing the US to death.
I would relate a tale about death and an honor guard, but that could be construed as a threat.But Grampa is dead but he was a scream at parties.