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Gun control will backfire on the libs

CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
I think that all this talk about banning guns, magazine restrictions, registration etc etc is going to backfire on the Dems. Right now, after the re-election of the annointed one, they are drunk with power and giddy with delight thinking that they have the majority of the country backing their liberal, socialist agenda...but I think they have awakened a sleeping giant and when the mid term elections roll around, they may be in for a big surprise. Losing the Senate and losing more seats in the House just might take some of the wind out of their sails!

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    nemesisenforcernemesisenforcer Member Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭
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    ruger41ruger41 Member Posts: 14,647 ✭✭✭
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    2014 will not be a good year for incumbents that vote for gun control. I predict massive culling of the herd that will set them back a generation.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
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    I've been wondering the same thing....especially given the absolute panic that has been going on for a month now.

    I know more than a couple of people who voted for Obama (and Obama voters here in Eastern Kentucky are pretty rare) and are now buying guns and ammo as fast as they can.


    Gun banners can screech all they want about Americans wanting "weapons of war" off the streets, but the fact remains that it's not a small minority that's emptying the shelves of sporting goods stores all over the country.
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    ChrisInTempeChrisInTempe Member Posts: 15,562
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    Back when President Obama won the first time a group of 60+ Democrats signed a letter urging him to stay the heck away from Gun Control. Many of these were "Blue Dog Democrats". As in too fiscally conservative for most Democrats but too socially liberal for today's incarnation of the Republican/Tea Party.

    Now here's the trouble - The Tea Party and the GOP went after those Gun Friendly Blue Dogs. Many lost, their numbers are down. But that doesn't mean their offiecs went to Republican candidates.

    So while sentiments remain pro-gun on the whole in the House, it is weaker there than it used to be.

    That's what dumb, short term political thinking does. Shoots your own cause in the foot.
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    bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
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    In all candor, I think you are wrong.
    And I also think that as long as this argument is framed as a 'liberal' v 'conservative' issue then gun owners are doomed.

    I saw Mitch McConnell giving a critique of the President's inaugural address. He said something to the effect that the President was still stuck on his liberal agenda. Well no kidding. He's a liberal. And what was intended as an insult wasn't taken that way at all.

    The liberals in the us outnumber the conservatives. You can piss and moan about votor fraud or figure out a way to bring more to our cause of avoiding ineffective legislation that won't address the goal of keeping our children and our freedoms safe.
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    CS8161CS8161 Member Posts: 13,595 ✭✭✭
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    quote:Originally posted by bigoutside
    In all candor, I think you are wrong.
    And I also think that as long as this argument is framed as a 'liberal' v 'conservative' issue then gun owners are doomed.

    I saw Mitch McConnell giving a critique of the President's inaugural address. He said something to the effect that the President was still stuck on his liberal agenda. Well no kidding. He's a liberal. And what was intended as an insult wasn't taken that way at all.

    The liberals in the us outnumber the conservatives. You can piss and moan about votor fraud or figure out a way to bring more to our cause of avoiding ineffective legislation that won't address the goal of keeping our children and our freedoms safe.




    Every serious poll has shown that people who identify themselves as conservatives, outnumber the people who consider themselves liberal...Barry and the Chicago gang just did a way better job of motivating their base. Many, many conservatives sat this election out because they are unhappy with the "moderate" stance the GOP has taken. If they run a true conservative with some charisma (neither Romney nor McCain met the bill) then maybe they will have a shot at winning back the WH.
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    bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
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    Or you could frame the argument so all individuals who oppose governmental intrusion and are proponents of the rights of an individual.

    I don't care who you sleep with. Please don't care what I do with my firearms.
    There are public health risks with both. But an aids epidemic isn't likely. And you can't make an activity illegal because of insane members of an affinity group.

    There will be an AWB unless enough mainstream liberals are willing to stand up and protect you rights.

    Or gun owners can continue to piss off valuable allies.

    Cause Rush Limbaugh doesn't care about your 30 round mag.
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    bigoutsidebigoutside Member Posts: 19,443
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    Yes.
    And we need to find some friends who are Democrats, and happy, and people of color, and illegal aliens, and ex military, and cop haters, and punk rockers, and west coast rappers and roller skaters, and bicycle riders and Baptists and Unitarians and Catholics and Muslims and church of christers, and people who grill on charcoal and people who use propane.

    Cause if we don't hang together... We'll surely hang separately.
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    slumlord44slumlord44 Member Posts: 3,702 ✭✭✭
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    Never have understood why the black population is not more active in the gun culture. Know a couple of black guys who are collectors and in to quality guns but they are few and far between. The majority of blacks seem to forget that part of being a slave was not being able to own a gun. They seem to have no problem with it now, at least those who are not gang bangers.
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    farmplinkerfarmplinker Member Posts: 245 ✭✭
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    quote:I don't care who you sleep with. Please don't care what I do with my firearms.

    ++ I might change it to "I don't care who you sleep with. Why do you care what firearms I own?", but the sentiment is the same.

    While there is a certain amount of truth to framing many issues as liberal vs. conservative or democrat vs. republican, I prefer to frame them as authoritative vs. libertarian. I don't want government limiting freedoms of just about any kind, and that includes gun rights. Prior gun laws enacted in the 30s, 80s and 90s infringed my rights, and I am contacting all of my legislators (state and federal) letting them know that I expect them to not further infringe my rights and liberties.

    I've also thought - if we can keep the House from enacting new gun laws - that this issue will waste a tremendous amount of what the pundits call "political capital" on the part of Owebama and democratic gun-banners, and be a disaster for these miserable folks. We just have to keep the heat on our politicians and let them know what we think and that we will be watching their votes.
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    Jim RauJim Rau Member Posts: 3,550
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    I think you meant to say the 'anti-gun legislation' would back fire, didn't you!!
    Gun control is hitting your intended target!!![;)]
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