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quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
quote:Originally posted by fishermanben
How about make it illegal to sell a gun to a felon (which it is), and provide citizens the option of using a background check to guarantee they aren't.
That way you can still sell to people you know, but will have an option of getting a background check if you're nervous about a sale?
Speaking for myself, I would NEVER sell a weapon to someone who made me"nervous about the sale."
To each his own.I'd have a hard time living it down if that person went on to use the weapon to kill someone.
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
Can you explain for me, what law would keep the felon from obtaining a gun?
Some will die in hot pursuit
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
Wait a minute there, cowboy. You can regulate everybody else all you want but stay away from my hobby! [;)]
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
Can you explain for me, what law would keep the felon from obtaining a gun?
That would be the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618).
Signed by President Johnson on 22 October 1968.
Now if you are reffering to the fact of a law doesnt stop anything, your right, there are speed limits and break them everyday. But if your notion is no laws on anything and reffering to an anarchy type society, good luck with maintaining any sort of order with that.
quote:Originally posted by chollagardens
The background checks are not the problem. It is the record keeping the goverment does with the background checks that is the problem.I wonder if politicians have to have background checks.
You got that right, both the Bush and Obama administrations have been caught holding onto the NCIC data long past the time it was to have been deleted/discarded. And any statement they make regarding current compliance is hardly reassuring.
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quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
How about make it illegal to sell a gun to a felon (which it is), and provide citizens the option of using a background check to guarantee they aren't.
That way you can still sell to people you know, but will have an option of getting a background check if you're nervous about a sale?
Speaking for myself, I would NEVER sell a weapon to someone who made me"nervous about the sale."
To each his own.I'd have a hard time living it down if that person went on to use the weapon to kill someone.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
Can you explain for me, what law would keep the felon from obtaining a gun?
And fiery auto crashes
Some will die in hot pursuit
While sifting through my ashes
Some will fall in love with life
And drink it from a fountain
That is pouring like an avalanche
Coming down the mountain
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
Wait a minute there, cowboy. You can regulate everybody else all you want but stay away from my hobby! [;)]
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
quote:Originally posted by nards444
quote:Originally posted by Mr. Perfect
We should implement background checks on far more products than just guns. Cars, knives, rope, hammers, hamburgers... I see no reason to limit them to just guns. You never know who's going to buy that rc helicopter!
back ground checks are done to get to license, so thus why buy a car if you do not have a license?
Felons dont need weapons sorry never going to buy that one. Question is how do you sort that one out? If its private check or public check and there is no record of it, I have no problem with it.
keep felons locked up or make them dead. It's a simple solution that keeps being overlooked.
I dont disagree that some people need to be put down. In that case you have be 100% sure that they are the PERP. Second the death penalty the way it sits take to long and cost to much to really make it effective.
Lastly do I think the guy that stole my car should own a gun so he can maybe do it again with a gun no. But do i think he should be killed the first time around, probably not. A family acquaitance well call it drove a car while his buddy got out and robbed a hooker with a pistol. The robber got armed robbery etc, the guy we knew basicallly got slammed with a felony aiding crime for being the driver, he says he didnt know about it, whatever you were there dude. Robber got like 10 the guy we know 5. Hes been out for 20 plus years and is productive member in society, should he have been killed no.
In these days and times there is going to be gun control whether it be right wrong or indifferent. Background checks is the least of my worries compared to bans and other things. Although you could say giving in on one thing means giving on other things in the future. But if you have to pick a poison I think you pick that one, and to a certain extent it probably does benefit us all regardless of who thinks they are being violated.
Can you explain for me, what law would keep the felon from obtaining a gun?
That would be the Gun Control Act of 1968 (Public Law 90-618).
Signed by President Johnson on 22 October 1968.
Now if you are reffering to the fact of a law doesnt stop anything, your right, there are speed limits and break them everyday. But if your notion is no laws on anything and reffering to an anarchy type society, good luck with maintaining any sort of order with that.
The background checks are not the problem. It is the record keeping the goverment does with the background checks that is the problem.I wonder if politicians have to have background checks.
You got that right, both the Bush and Obama administrations have been caught holding onto the NCIC data long past the time it was to have been deleted/discarded. And any statement they make regarding current compliance is hardly reassuring.