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Common Carrier Ripoff!!

faldumfaldum Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
BOTH United Parcel Service and Federal Express
DEMAND handgun shippers use their PREMIUM (read expensive)
services since such services (FFL excepted) are unavailable via USPS.

The following is part of Federal Anti-Trust guidelines:

quote:
TITLE 15 > CHAPTER 1 > Sec. 2. Prev | Next
Sec. 2. - Monopolizing trade a felony; penalty



Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $10,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $350,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding three years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court






Is it just a COINCIDENCE the two MAJOR players in the COMMON CARRIER game demand PREMIUM fees for shipping these EVIL
appendages?

Obviously, a Prima Facie challenge based on the above language
appears in order for the good folks on Gun Broker (and elsewhere) who do not particularly relish paying for unnecessary services.
Clearly, MANY would not have a PROBLEM paying SURFACE rates
for their purchases!


Anyone having knowledge of legal challenges to the above, kindly
respond....

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    MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 13,909 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The US Postal Service DOES handle handgun shipments.

    Mobuck
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    faldumfaldum Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mobuck:


    I am not an FFL holder.
    If I sold you a handgun, could I mail it to you
    via USPS?

    see US Postal regulations sec 432.1/432.2
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    IRONSTICKSIRONSTICKS Member Posts: 149 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Only if you (the seller) let your FFL ship to the buyer's FFL.
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    U.s.M.c. 54U.s.M.c. 54 Member Posts: 28 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    please read the USPS DMM (rule book) DMM issue 57 (6-30-02) section CO24 other restricted or nonmailable matter , you can mail handguns but is is very "RESTRICTED" , long guns can be mailed to a DEALER or FACTORY repair shop , just to be sure read the DMM before you try mailing a firearm , I got a rifle thru GUNBROKER and was mailed to my DEALER USPS , got there just fine with INS. of course just incase....
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    faldumfaldum Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello usmc54:

    Thanks for the tip!
    I learned the USPS prohibits shipment of
    Spring/CO2/Air powered "handguns"
    unless one is a "dealer."
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    longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Isn't it legal to ship Handgun "parts"?
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    0311marine0311marine Member Posts: 3,233
    edited November -1
    you can to a ffl w/ usps

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    SEMPER FI
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    Ivoryjester123Ivoryjester123 Member Posts: 16 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Faldum,

    Both UPS and FEDEX want to be able to provide service to all for the same reason. Money. They do not want to be targeted for possible rip offs of what is normally high priced highly wanted items. Also ground shipments have a much higher rate of damage.

    That is why they require the faster, less handling type method of an express shipment versus a ground shipment. It's an insurance thing not a scam against the shippers.

    Ivoryjester
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    faldumfaldum Member Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello Ivoryjester:

    quote:Also ground shipments have a much higher rate of damage.


    I can certainly see where that might be used as an EXCUSE.

    I can't begin to count the times an overworked UPS driver
    left an extremely expensive (and often irreplacable) parcel
    on my front porch without so much as ringing the bell.
    And I live on a very busy street.

    Their insurance dept. must be working overtime due to "lost" packages.

    But insisting on TRIPLE fees for one WILLING to wait a few days is
    not fair.
    Nor does it solve their problem of damage/theft etc.
    A coincidence BOTH have the SAME TROUBLES?
    It is prima facie price fixing, pure and simple.

    EXAMPLE:
    Below is the actual cost (with insurance) of sending a $1500.00 Rolex watch from my home to Los Angeles.
    UPS Ground*
    Guaranteed Day-Definite***
    Total Rate(USD) 10.69*
    The rate to send a $150.00 handgun is $35.00
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