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Assault rifles in California
jerm909
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How's it goin? I recently started getting into guns the past year. I enjoy shooting assault rifles but the only thing i can own in Cal is a sks with only 10 rounds. How can i get a ak or ar-15 here or even building one. I was thinking of going to Arizona or Nevada and smuggling one back. What are the consenquences?
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All of these charges are felonies.
As a resident of California, you cannot purchase any firearms in another state unless you have them shipped to a California dealer for transfer to you.
Yes, I know it sucks.
They won't sell you a firearm in Arizona or Nevada if you have a out of state or California drivers license.
Thus since no one will ever sell you a 'Assault Weapon', buy a California legal AR-15 from Atlantic Arms. It has a permanently affixed ten round mag so you can take it to the shooting range. There is also a AK47 that is now California legal, they put a pump on it instead of it being semi-auto. Fires just as fast. Stupid ain't it?
If you give a crap about getting rid of California's 'Assault Weapon' regulations email this guy and ask what you can do to help him.
http://www.gwgorski.com/html/news.html
He's the only Attorney in California fighting for your rights.
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Ronnie G. Perkins
For one thing, you can have the Feds and California arguing over which one sends you to jail. The Feds for illegal purchase and California for illegal possession and illegal importing of an assault weapon.
All of these charges are felonies.
As a resident of California, you cannot purchase any firearms in another state unless you have them shipped to a California dealer for transfer to you.
Yes, I know it sucks.
they do make cali legal ar15 's and ak's
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Ronnie G. Perkins
My plan is to get a nevada i.d and use my sister's house as the address since she lives in vegas, then go to the gun store show them my i.d and get the gun. Drive back to cali and be a proud owner of a firearm thats illegal to own in my area.
That's an ok plan, but what you should do is ask your sister to buy one and then have her just give it to you (illegal since you're a CA resident but whatever), that way there's no paper trail. I live here and I was thinking of doing the same thing but decided I'd rather have an M1A instead. It really comes down to risk v. reward. You're right, it would be cool to have a real AR. If you use your head, you'll be able to keep it hidden from public view and from the attention of the authorities. Just be careful which ranges you take it to, and I really hope you didn't register on this site with a traceable email address. The risk is that, unlike possession of an unregistered assault weapon (an alternate felony/misdemeanor used if you failed to register your AR after the ban), importation, transportation, gift, or manufacture of an assault weapon is a straight felony. Which you would be charged with after they trace the serial # to Nevada after finding the AR in your car.
It's medium risk, high reward in my opinion and if it's worth it to you, you should do it. Or consider getting, e.g., a CA-legal AR and a mini-14 with banana clips-- both legal and both a lot of fun, and no state prison or probation.
The reason it probably is an assault weapon is that the 1989 list of assault weapons includes "AR-15 series" meaning any copy of an AR-15 and the lower receiver of the DPMS pump rifle is a real AR-15 type receiver.
You might try asking the DOJ for an opinion that the DPMS pump rifle is not an assault weapon so you can buy one, and then keep a real AR upper to covertly use at the range or wherever. But that's what they know you'll do so they will probably refuse to give you that opinion.
Really.
Banana clips are illegal in the Golden State. (anything over ten rounds)
FYI...do a search on fleabay-type 'AR15 lower receiver'.
80% is not a firearm.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36
It *might* be possible to make a CA-legal rifle from an 80% AR receiver if the magazine is not detachable within the meaning of PC 12276.1 as interpreted by Cal. Code of Regulations sec. 978.20. Look at http://www.tanneryshop.com for their California model with the floorplate in the magazine well to allow a fixed 10 rd magazine similar to the CA-legal AR that atlantic firearms is selling.
I've been trying to get a straight answer from the DOJ on what constitutes enough of a difference to exclude a rifle from the AR-15 series rule, but they won't say. Basically you have to gamble on that.
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Get a Keltec SU16. It's California legal, I think for now, and will readily accept M16/AR15 magazines you might of already possessed prior to the 2000 ban.
She's cheap, has a warranty, and is made in the U.S. of A.
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you better read the delta gun post before you think about having a firearm in Californy.
"He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."
- Jesus Christ in Luke 22:36