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Here Is 1 Way Out Of This Mess.
tr fox
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OK, I never claim to have the best or most original ideas, but here is one idea that might get us started in regards to winning our government back and finally having all the amendments and the US Constituion followed. On another topic I posted a long "lecture" about how getting a viable 3rd or 4th party started was one of our only hopes. And I went into detail of one reason that hasn't happend yet and I also mentioned one idea that could, just could, make it happen. So why don't any of you that are interested let me type out a form letter to some of those other poltical parties and I will post it here and you can print it and sign and mail to the leaders of those parties or even anyone who has influence on this. If anyone is interested I am of course open to suggestions onhow the letter could be worded. But I think the main topic of the letter should be that the 3rd and 4th parties don't stand a chance until wwe give voters the right to vote for as many canidadates for any one particular office as they wish. For examaple I could vote for the Republicans AND for the Liberterians evven though the Republicians are my second choice. But if I had only been able to cast one vote for US President, I would have been afraid of throwing away my vote, if I only had one vote, if I gave it to the Liberterians.
Let me know if anyone is interested or if they have any suggesstions on the letter. Otherwise I will just forget about it as we all do so often. But this could be achance to actgually take decisive action here on GB.com
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Let me know if anyone is interested or if they have any suggesstions on the letter. Otherwise I will just forget about it as we all do so often. But this could be achance to actgually take decisive action here on GB.com
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
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I am sure you will get some input on changing it.
Lets do a little brain storming. [;)]
The gene pool needs chlorine.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
Has anyone looked into what it would take, or who is responsible for changing the voting laws?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
If there is a lack of interest detected on this topic; it is probably because most people see it as a totally impossible venture. The problem I see with the "double vote casting" is that it would take legislation to change our current voting laws. Who controls the legislation? The D's and the R's. They know that the majority of voters would split their vote, 1 for the home party and one for the third party. They also realize that the double vote casting would bring a drastic rise to the third party. They don't want anymore competition. They would never do anyting to hurt themselves. It would be a miracle to get any of this legislation through our current system.
Not trying to be negative on the idea. Just pointing out some road blocks I see. Maybe somebody will come up with some good ideas.
"Have a gun that works every time. All skill is in vein when an Angel pisses in the flintlock of your musket."
3gunner: your observations are right on, but if we could somehow get a national voice asking for a change in the constitution and whatever else it would take to change the way citizens vote, and frame our demand as it being good for the citizens, for political competition, and would give citizens an additional right, the Dems and Reps would look like selfish hypocrits if they fight against the idea. Think about how the government thinks it is a great idea for the citizens to have several auto companies, several phone companies, several delivery companies, etc, etc. to chose from but we only really have two political parties to chose from. Something is wrong with that and if we could get the citizens to examine the situtaion they would probably agree.
When guns were invented everything changed. For the first time in the history of the world a frail woman had a chance to sucessfully defend herself and home. My dream is that one of the anti-gun nuts will need a gun for defense and be unable to have one because of their own actions.
the problem is the same as you have whenever you have a group in power and another group wants in. the group in power wll do anything to avoid getting thrown out.a lot of minority groups tried for this in the late sixties early seventies and the major parties not wanting a nonwhite instant majority did whatever it took from lawsuits to finding candidates of color to put on their ballots quickly.of course one of the results was that the democrats who were most able to see what advantage they could get from it began to give away the store.
the vast majority of this country are like romans,living for the free circus.when the entitlements were smaller it would have been easier to wean this country off it. noone wants to vote for someone that isnt promising them free stuff anymore let alone someone who says its time to pay the piper.i think thats what gun control is really all about, its people control and at some point the bill will come due and when they cut off all the party favors they dont want a restive populace with guns especially the kind we like with those big magazines.
why am i pointing this out? so that you understand were not the first people to try to get back some power from the 2 party system and what we are up against.most important is local politics as a base and we will be best off starting all over but concentrating on areas of this country that still mostly believe that freedom is god given and not a privelige from uncle sugar.
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