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NICS info kept-how long?

Prescott PetePrescott Pete Member Posts: 208 ✭✭
edited March 2004 in Gun Rights and Constitutional Law
This is my first time on this forum and I am sure this has been asked before.How long can the feds that ok the gun buyer to purchase a weapon keep the info on file? I thought I read that it is now 24 hours and then it is destroyed.True or not?
Thanks for your help and answers.
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    I'm not exactly sure because the details mean little to me. Here's why. The FFL dealer you purchase through has to keep his record of your gun purchase as long as he is in business.
    BUT when he goes out of business his records then become property of the government. The same part of the government that killed all those people at Waco and the one woman with a baby in her arms taken out by a sniper at Ruby Ridge. So plan on the government always having your gun purchase info available to them.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    24 hours is true as stated.
    Reality=forever.

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    If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.
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  • ozwynozwyn Member Posts: 189 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If i recall correctly by law it can only be stored either in paper or microfiche, not in a database format.

    Which means although the government may have the records, actually finding and making effective use of said record is another matter entirely. Finding one record in something like half a billion records (figure multiple records for the same weapon) make finding a needle in a haystack easy by comparison.

    They may have the records, but the gun rights supporters didn't make it easy on them. (good thing too)
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    us55840: I like and agree with the statement at the bottom of your post.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    "We are from the Government..we are here to help you..."

    3 years ago...The Federal government had put on computer 60 million Guns..the result of all those 4473's turned in because of the push to get rid of dealers...
    I know for a fact..that a couple dealers in this area had the Batf decend on them and over a couple days,hand write nearly every record they had....apparently it being "against the law" to just carry them away and photo=copy the records...

    The laws,suckers,are mostly for and against YOU...the King and his minions are exempt from them....mostly.
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  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    us55840 Posted - 03/15/2004 : 10:34:25 PM


    quote:FFL does NOT have to give it to any law enforcement person or department other than Federal because it's owned by the Federal Govt.

    What am I missing here..? The BATF isn't a Federal agency ? To whom do these goons belong,then ?

    You know..the more I think about that agency...the more convinced I become that these are precisely the people the Founders would have met in the road..musket in hand.In fact..they basically did so.
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  • Salvage33Salvage33 Member Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Interesting reading concerning this subject in the latest issue of "First Freedom" magazine. Read it and rejoice.

    John

    A friend will post your bail. A good friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying, "man that was fun!"
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  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    Am I missing something of importance here? It seems the general thought is that only a federal law enforcement agency can view the FFL holders forms 4473. But if that is true what advantage is it honest gun owners? If the local street cop wants info from a a local FFL dealer regarding his sales, the ATFE merely has to "escort" the local cop into the office of the FFL holder and let the local cop look over the shoulder of the ATFE agent as he/she rifles through the 4473's.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
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  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    It seems to me it is a distinction in the mind only..of no relevence to life at all.

    Saying that something is "only" viewable by the fedgov...just gives me warm fuzzy feelings of comfort and security.....[xx(]
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