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New proposed "assault" Registration & Ban in PA!!!
JimmyTheRat
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This is a proposed House Bill in Pennsylvania (HB2451), This would only affect PA but if it happens here could your state be next?
This is worse than the California ban as far as I can tell.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/BI/BT/2003/0/HB2451P3471.HTM
The basics as I read it are that you cannot have an AR-15, AK, Fal, Cetme or the like and a magazine over 10 rounds in your posession at the same time. I would think they would expand this to mean even in your own home.
You will not be able to shoot a "prohibited" weapon anywhere but a duly licensed, lawfully operated shooting range, or at an offically sanctioned shooting match. I seem to think the 90 acres my neighbor owns would not be considered a lawfully operated range although there have been more rounds fired there than the local public range and with no injuries.
Weapons owned will be grandfathered for 90 days after the bill passes providing you (A) register each and every one of your "assault weapons" for a fee not to exceed the cost of the state police to create a registry(?) (B) you must submit to a backround check every year thereafter to prove your competence to own said weapons. We all know that the local crack dealer will be right in line behind you every year renewing his permits.
You must store the weapons safely and securely pursuant to regulations that are yet to be determined.
How can they possibly enforce this you ask?
You must submit to no more than one search by the State Police per year to let them determine wether you can still be trusted with your guns. By registering your guns, you will be surrendering your fourth ammendment rights.
You may not sell you banned guns(I read this to include dealers also unless selling to the cops or goverment, because we all know that they can be trusted). You may leave your kids your evil rifles, assuming they subject themselves to the backround check and registration process.
Oh yea, if you think that your huntin' guns are safe, think again!
Happen to have one of those Saiga AK looking shotguns with the detachable mag?, sorry charlie not no more, it will be banned.
Hows about a Remington 7600 or 760 with any type of muzzle break or even magna porting?, Again wrong answer, banned. How about one of those fancy Browning autoloaders in .308 that every gangbanger in Philly has stashed in their closet?, does it have a Boss system or any other porting? If so you better run down and get it all legal like you criminal.
Violating this garbage bill can get you a class 1 or 3 felony on your new rap sheet.
I hate to drag on, but I feel this is important enough to justify using up some space
I have found the halfwit sponsors' emails at www.pahouse.com
Email them as well as your own Reps to voice your opinion.
All emails are @pahouse.net except as noted
Michael Sturla (D) 96th dist Lancaster, msturla@pahouse.net
Democratic policy vice chairman, Democratic deputy whip
Stephen Stetler (D) 95th York, sstetler@pahouse.net
Democratic policy chairman
Mark Cohen (D) 202nd Phila, mcohen@pahouse.net
Democratic Caucus chairman
Dwight Evans (D) 203rd (?), dvans@pahouse.net
Appropriation Comm Chairman
Dan Frankel (D) 23rd Allegheny, dfrankel@pahouse.net
Frank Pistella (D) 21st Allegheny, fpistell@pahouse.net
Jake Wheatley (D) 19th Allegheny, jwheatley@pahouse.net
Lawrence Curry (D) 154th Montgomery, lcurry@pahouse.net
Anthony Melio (D) 141st Bucks, amelio@pahouse.net
T.J. Rooney (D) 133rd Lehigh & Northampton, tjrooney@pahouse.net
Daylin Leach (D) 149th(?), dleach@pahouse.net
Babette Josephs (D) 182nd(?), bjoseph@pahouse.net
Thaddeus Kirkland (D) 159th Delaware, tkirkland@pahouse.net
Curtis Thomas (D) 181st Phila, cthomas@pahouse.net
Micheal Horsey (D) 190th Phila, mhorsey@pahouse.net
Harold James (D) 186th Phila, hjames@pahouse.net
James Roebuck (D) 188th Phila, jroebuck@pahouse.net
Leanna Washington (D) 200th Phila, lwashingt@pahouse.net
Ronald Waters (D) 191st Phila, rwaters@pahouse.net
Jewell Williams (D) 197th Phila, jwilliams@pahouse.net
Rosita Youngblood (D) 198th Phila, ryoungblood@pahouse.net
Louise Bishop (?) 192nd Phila (?), (?)
And last but not least, my personal favorite, the lone Republican as far as I can tell..... Melissa Weber (R) Montgomery, repweber.com Although all of the above should be ousted next election this one deserves it most in my opinion.
Looks like the Rendell crowd from Philly can't control the social programs they created so now they want to force another of their rotten uninformed feel good laws down the whole states' throat. The cronies they picked up along the way need a swift kick in the ballot box for being morons.
All this will do is create a black market and get a whole load more of these guns into the mix when it gets out that you will never be able to buy one again.
Another Liberal program creating the exact opposite of it's stated intent.
This is worse than the California ban as far as I can tell.
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/BI/BT/2003/0/HB2451P3471.HTM
The basics as I read it are that you cannot have an AR-15, AK, Fal, Cetme or the like and a magazine over 10 rounds in your posession at the same time. I would think they would expand this to mean even in your own home.
You will not be able to shoot a "prohibited" weapon anywhere but a duly licensed, lawfully operated shooting range, or at an offically sanctioned shooting match. I seem to think the 90 acres my neighbor owns would not be considered a lawfully operated range although there have been more rounds fired there than the local public range and with no injuries.
Weapons owned will be grandfathered for 90 days after the bill passes providing you (A) register each and every one of your "assault weapons" for a fee not to exceed the cost of the state police to create a registry(?) (B) you must submit to a backround check every year thereafter to prove your competence to own said weapons. We all know that the local crack dealer will be right in line behind you every year renewing his permits.
You must store the weapons safely and securely pursuant to regulations that are yet to be determined.
How can they possibly enforce this you ask?
You must submit to no more than one search by the State Police per year to let them determine wether you can still be trusted with your guns. By registering your guns, you will be surrendering your fourth ammendment rights.
You may not sell you banned guns(I read this to include dealers also unless selling to the cops or goverment, because we all know that they can be trusted). You may leave your kids your evil rifles, assuming they subject themselves to the backround check and registration process.
Oh yea, if you think that your huntin' guns are safe, think again!
Happen to have one of those Saiga AK looking shotguns with the detachable mag?, sorry charlie not no more, it will be banned.
Hows about a Remington 7600 or 760 with any type of muzzle break or even magna porting?, Again wrong answer, banned. How about one of those fancy Browning autoloaders in .308 that every gangbanger in Philly has stashed in their closet?, does it have a Boss system or any other porting? If so you better run down and get it all legal like you criminal.
Violating this garbage bill can get you a class 1 or 3 felony on your new rap sheet.
I hate to drag on, but I feel this is important enough to justify using up some space
I have found the halfwit sponsors' emails at www.pahouse.com
Email them as well as your own Reps to voice your opinion.
All emails are @pahouse.net except as noted
Michael Sturla (D) 96th dist Lancaster, msturla@pahouse.net
Democratic policy vice chairman, Democratic deputy whip
Stephen Stetler (D) 95th York, sstetler@pahouse.net
Democratic policy chairman
Mark Cohen (D) 202nd Phila, mcohen@pahouse.net
Democratic Caucus chairman
Dwight Evans (D) 203rd (?), dvans@pahouse.net
Appropriation Comm Chairman
Dan Frankel (D) 23rd Allegheny, dfrankel@pahouse.net
Frank Pistella (D) 21st Allegheny, fpistell@pahouse.net
Jake Wheatley (D) 19th Allegheny, jwheatley@pahouse.net
Lawrence Curry (D) 154th Montgomery, lcurry@pahouse.net
Anthony Melio (D) 141st Bucks, amelio@pahouse.net
T.J. Rooney (D) 133rd Lehigh & Northampton, tjrooney@pahouse.net
Daylin Leach (D) 149th(?), dleach@pahouse.net
Babette Josephs (D) 182nd(?), bjoseph@pahouse.net
Thaddeus Kirkland (D) 159th Delaware, tkirkland@pahouse.net
Curtis Thomas (D) 181st Phila, cthomas@pahouse.net
Micheal Horsey (D) 190th Phila, mhorsey@pahouse.net
Harold James (D) 186th Phila, hjames@pahouse.net
James Roebuck (D) 188th Phila, jroebuck@pahouse.net
Leanna Washington (D) 200th Phila, lwashingt@pahouse.net
Ronald Waters (D) 191st Phila, rwaters@pahouse.net
Jewell Williams (D) 197th Phila, jwilliams@pahouse.net
Rosita Youngblood (D) 198th Phila, ryoungblood@pahouse.net
Louise Bishop (?) 192nd Phila (?), (?)
And last but not least, my personal favorite, the lone Republican as far as I can tell..... Melissa Weber (R) Montgomery, repweber.com Although all of the above should be ousted next election this one deserves it most in my opinion.
Looks like the Rendell crowd from Philly can't control the social programs they created so now they want to force another of their rotten uninformed feel good laws down the whole states' throat. The cronies they picked up along the way need a swift kick in the ballot box for being morons.
All this will do is create a black market and get a whole load more of these guns into the mix when it gets out that you will never be able to buy one again.
Another Liberal program creating the exact opposite of it's stated intent.
Comments
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
This aint gonna pass. They try to enact this or simular laws quite often, but they get shot down.
They are getting shot down now because the house majority are not of the Philadelphia persuasion, if this ever changes i'm outa here.
I seriously don't think it will either, but how many people in California or Jersey said the same thing?
I'm just putting this out there to let gunowners in PA know what kind of toilet paper fodder is sitting down on the hill blaming a law abiding citizen for their failed socialist and marxist programs.
I have read my state constitution and if I can understand it why can't they? Oh... that's right, they went to public schools in Philly and Picksburg!
Anyway, keep calling.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
It's a matter of time before they bring their ideals on gun legislation into law in PA also.
Stock pile now. Your kids will not be able to buy what you can pick up for them today....cheap.
Ten years ago an acre of land in Northeastern Pa was about $700 an acre. Today the cheapest I've found is $15,000.
The State will never be the same.
The majority of them are anti's as they have the legislation instituted in their State. If the majority of them were Pro-gun the legislation they have would of been overturned.
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"If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace" -Thomas Paine
If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.