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Kerry
yachtdave
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In appearances in battleground states, Kerry has frequently portrayed himself as friendly to hunters and other sportsmen and sportswomen. At a Labor Day campaign stop in West Virginia this week, the Massachusetts senator displayed a union-made shotgun the president of the United Mine Workers, Cecil Roberts, gave him.
LaPierre said the shotgun Kerry displayed during his recent West Virginia appearance would be banned under a bill Kerry co-sponsored.[?]
dave
LaPierre said the shotgun Kerry displayed during his recent West Virginia appearance would be banned under a bill Kerry co-sponsored.[?]
dave
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so kerry is pro hunter, great, thats means we can be limited to bolt action rifles and pump shotguns with the bolts safely stored at our local police station till we need them for hunting. thats doesnt mean he's pro second amendment any more than the union supporting him means that he will raise the minimum wage
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
Anyone verify this ? I will start shaking door knobs tomorrow,if he did....Working to get him elected.
I WOULD RATHER BE DUCK HUNTING.
The quicker some Politician has the courage to stand up and ram thru a total or nearly total ban on guns....The quicker the remnent American's can take this country back.
Wouldn't you love to live in a free country ?
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Remember how many seats were lost after AWB passage? Vae victis!
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
Only one slim hope left..in my opinion,after being in the arena for 40 years.....
We must withdraw from futher fruitless clashes with the Socialists and their fellow travelers in the positions of power..we must conserve our strengths..and strengthen our weaknesses.
The best course is to allow those who would sell out and destroy America the rope to completely commit themselves...and then be around to pick up the pieces.
quote:Originally posted by Highball
I was told at work today that Kerry said 'most guns ought to be banned..and I will try to do just that..'...
Anyone verify this ? I will start shaking door knobs tomorrow,if he did....Working to get him elected.
Paul Byrd
quote:Originally posted by longhunter
You've not been here long enough to judge highball in this manner.....Scan backwards...you will find he is more PRO gun than most....
Paul Byrd
Highball, why would you want Kerry to get elected? He's not as bad as Dubya. Are you intent on destroying this country?
[?] this statement makes no sense. from what I can gather, you don't want to see Kerry in office, but you think he would be better than Bush?
On a side note, gun owners who wish to remain such are single issue voters. And the party for which to vote is Republican. Just look at Brady campaign's list. Most dems get high marks, most Republican senators/congressman scored poorly in their agenda to increase gun control. My district's congressman got 0% from Brady Campaign. Go Tancredo!
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
I am still laughing.
Funniest thing I have heard in a long time.
Thanks for the laugh paulbyrd, but take longhunters advice, real a little more of what Highball has to say in other posts.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
On a side note, gun owners who wish to remain such are single issue voters. And the party for which to vote is Republican.
Bullsnot. That type of sentiment is a big reason why we have so much gun control. There are plenty of Republicans out there trying to take our guns away. Unfortunately, groups like the NRA are of the same mindset as HGunter375-if you are a republican, then you are awwwwtright as far as guns are concerned.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
John
The original point and click interface was made by Smith & Wesson
Bullsnot. That type of sentiment is a big reason why we have so much gun control. There are plenty of Republicans out there trying to take our guns away. Unfortunately, groups like the NRA are of the same mindset as HGunter375-if you are a republican, then you are awwwwtright as far as guns are concerned.
I never said the GOP was 100% gun friendly, but fact is that 3rd party and independent candidates don't have an icecube's chance in hell, and Democrats are historically (you might say traditionally) unfriendly to gun owners. Are all Dems anti and all Republicans pro? Of course not, but by and large it is pretty easy math. This country is not ready to go libertarian, and likely won't be in my grandchildrens lifetime (BTW I am 22 with no kids yet). So to vote outside of the 2 parties may be noble and it may be what you feel is right, but for now is a wasted vote. Generally speaking, the Libertarian party only draws away Republican votes. I do not follow the GOP lines 100%; I am not a sheep. But I certainly agree way more than I do with the left. And, actually, more than with the Libertarian party.
I also ask this-the Libertarian party believes it should reform government and give all the power back to the people. With this principle, how exactly do you make this happen as commander and chief of the federal government? Does the party simply wish to dismantle the federal government in 4 years so there are no more presidential elections? While this party has some good ideas, the are out there for the most part and more or less anarchist in nature. Direct democracy does not work in a country of 280 million, most of whom have no business voting in the first place. Besides, with the "every man for himself and all together at once" principle we would slip from a world power to 500 insignificant little republics, all quibling within the US borders. I can see it now "Elizabeth/Kiowa alliance declares war with peoples republic of Boulder".[:p]
If you have any doubt about which party is better for us, just look here http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/scorecard/scorecard.php?report=all
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
Expect me to be the first to stand and say..."I was wrong"..when the second term Bush suddenly becomes pro-gun and using the 'bully pulpit' to advocate sweeping gun law reforms,rolling back Brady and a few thousand other stupid people controlling laws...[:D]
holding my breath....[:(]
Kerry is so ANTI-GUN that it would be hard NOT to be better than him.
I think the idea that the takeover by the anti-s and a complete gun ban would hasten the second american revolution has some merit; but the blood would include that of many true americans. Those who have turned their backs on the foundation of this country would be weeded out, but oh, the cost.
Having said that, my guns are mine; if you want them I will let you have them, but you get the ammo first......... one by one.
Gun Control = FIRM GRIP!
quote:.I think the idea that the takeover by the anti-s and a complete gun ban would hasten the second american revolution has some merit; but the blood would include that of many true americans. Those who have turned their backs on the foundation of this country would be weeded out, but oh, the cost.
Yup..true words.The alternative is to do as we are doing..standing by and watching the destruction of every bit of freedom left.
Better by far that the Socialists win now...while there are a few good men left.If you have been on this site for awhile...I invite you to think about how many youngsters on here that will obey orders...Of course..there are also many older men who will also..but Quiselings have ALWAYS been part of the mix...
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quote:Originally posted by salzo
Bullsnot. That type of sentiment is a big reason why we have so much gun control. There are plenty of Republicans out there trying to take our guns away. Unfortunately, groups like the NRA are of the same mindset as HGunter375-if you are a republican, then you are awwwwtright as far as guns are concerned.
I never said the GOP was 100% gun friendly, but fact is that 3rd party and independent candidates don't have an icecube's chance in hell, and Democrats are historically (you might say traditionally) unfriendly to gun owners. Are all Dems anti and all Republicans pro? Of course not, but by and large it is pretty easy math. This country is not ready to go libertarian, and likely won't be in my grandchildrens lifetime (BTW I am 22 with no kids yet). So to vote outside of the 2 parties may be noble and it may be what you feel is right, but for now is a wasted vote. Generally speaking, the Libertarian party only draws away Republican votes. I do not follow the GOP lines 100%; I am not a sheep. But I certainly agree way more than I do with the left. And, actually, more than with the Libertarian party.
I also ask this-the Libertarian party believes it should reform government and give all the power back to the people. With this principle, how exactly do you make this happen as commander and chief of the federal government? Does the party simply wish to dismantle the federal government in 4 years so there are no more presidential elections? While this party has some good ideas, the are out there for the most part and more or less anarchist in nature. Direct democracy does not work in a country of 280 million, most of whom have no business voting in the first place. Besides, with the "every man for himself and all together at once" principle we would slip from a world power to 500 insignificant little republics, all quibling within the US borders. I can see it now "Elizabeth/Kiowa alliance declares war with peoples republic of Boulder".[:p]
If you have any doubt about which party is better for us, just look here http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/scorecard/scorecard.php?report=all
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
It is THIS mindset that keeps third Party candidates from having ANY real impact...If the people would start thinking for themselves,vote their consience...and stop swallowing what the media and the two Party system feeds them.Well...3rd Parties could overcome the odds...as a matter of fact the voters that do not vote could vote the Two Parties OUT OF OFFICE....We all know that more do not vote than do...Independant thinking is not a party...its Independant thinking.......Period. We just had 2 terms with an Independant Govenor here....It CAN happen
Was with some friends, and one of them shoots with me, and he asked if I was carrying. I replied "of course." One of the other guys there, we found out, was very anti-gun. He was not foaming at the mouth but was parroting all the anti-gun diatribe, and when he finally summed up his little rant, he asked me why I would even WANT to carry a gun, let alone actually carry one.
In response, I said the following; Let's say that you and Nancy have been to the theater in the Mall, late movie, and as you come out to go to your car, three guys jump you, knock you down, kick you unconscious and grab Nancy with rape on their mind. At this moment, I drive/walk by, see what it going on. Knowing that I am carrying a pistol, legally, a)do you want me to go on about my business and not interfere, or, b)interfere to save your wife's honor and life, and yours knowing that I MIGHT have to use deadly force in the process?
He didn't hesitate but blurted that he would want me to intervene on his behalf.
I rest my case.
John
The original point and click interface was made by Smith & Wesson
It is THIS mindset that keeps third Party candidates from having ANY real impact...If the people would start thinking for themselves,vote their consience...and stop swallowing what the media and the two Party system feeds them.Well...3rd Parties could overcome the odds...as a matter of fact the voters that do not vote could vote the Two Parties OUT OF OFFICE....We all know that more do not vote than do...Independant thinking is not a party...its Independant thinking.......Period. We just had 2 terms with an Independant Govenor here....It CAN happen
So who would you have me vote for? Badnarik??? he is more ambiguous than the John squareds. If the issue was a dice, he gets a 1,2,3,4,5 and 6. I have seen his rhetoric and read his proposals. I might have agreed with him had I only read the parts that are FOR my causes. The only position he really has is that he opposes everything equivacally. I know where GWB stands, and even if I disagree here and there I know what I am voting for. Sorry to dissappoint.
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
Gosh..how THAT thought would rock your world...the idea that all those people you INSIST on voting for don't give a rats * about the ideals you Should hold dear...
quote:Originally posted by dsmith
Highball, why would you want Kerry to get elected? He's not as bad as Dubya. Are you intent on destroying this country?
[?] this statement makes no sense. from what I can gather, you don't want to see Kerry in office, but you think he would be better than Bush?
On a side note, gun owners who wish to remain such are single issue voters. And the party for which to vote is Republican. Just look at Brady campaign's list. Most dems get high marks, most Republican senators/congressman scored poorly in their agenda to increase gun control. My district's congressman got 0% from Brady Campaign. Go Tancredo!
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
I made a typing mistake. I will correct it in my post. I meant to say Dubya's not as bad as Kerry.
quote:[
It is THIS mindset that keeps third Party candidates from having ANY real impact...If the people would start thinking for themselves,vote their consience...and stop swallowing what the media and the two Party system feeds them.Well...3rd Parties could overcome the odds...as a matter of fact the voters that do not vote could vote the Two Parties OUT OF OFFICE....We all know that more do not vote than do...Independant thinking is not a party...its Independant thinking.......Period. We just had 2 terms with an Independant Govenor here....It CAN happen
So who would you have me vote for? Badnarik??? he is more ambiguous than the John squareds. If the issue was a dice, he gets a 1,2,3,4,5 and 6. I have seen his rhetoric and read his proposals. I might have agreed with him had I only read the parts that are FOR my causes. The only position he really has is that he opposes everything equivacally. I know where GWB stands, and even if I disagree here and there I know what I am voting for. Sorry to dissappoint.
Liberal compassion inhibits progress.........think Republican and prosper!
You'll get No argument from me that the candidates we have are not the pick of the litter........The point was that it would seem we should get the non-voters out to vote...AND vote our concience....Period.Voting for the one that you are least afraid of is no answer...afraid is afraid......Period.
Who cares Who gets voted into the office,for most laws etc. they must have congree behind em etc....Vote in Dubya if you think you must,and then start weeding out the 2 party morons in the House and Senate......L.H.
"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA-- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." Heinrich Himmler.