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JPFO....gotta LOVE ' em...

HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
One organization not afraid to call jack-booted thugs what they are....

America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

JANUARY 3, 2005


If you value your firearms, your safety, and your financial
security, you should read every word of the following
article - then pass the information along to other gun
owners. Your personal future and your family's well-being
could depend on it.

- The Liberty Crew



For years, you've heard horror stories about the Bureau of
Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives (BATFE). You've
heard they're more interested in framing the innocent than
in catching real criminals. You've heard they'll ruin lives
for the sake of their own prestige and funding. You've heard
that BATFE agents agents are callous and careless - and that
the bureau supports a culture of cruel ineptitude.

Well, you don't have to rely on rumor or third-hand
information any more. Now, you can SEE FOR YOURSELF.

For the first time, footage exists that shows exactly how
the BATFE treats an ordinary, average gun owner once it
decides to "get" him. And JPFO is making that footage
available to the public. You can view that footage and show
it to other gun owners who may be in denial about how
desperately dangerous federal gun-law enforcement really is.


The background story behind this footage is in JPFO's
January 2005 _Shotgun News_ column (online at In short, on the word of one
informant with a grudge, the BATFE confiscated all the
firearms from an ordinary competition shooter named John
Glover and set about trying to prove that one of those
firearms was a machine gun illegally manufactured by Glover.
Their aim: To send Glover to prison for years, and to ruin
him financially - for no reason at all!

Fortunately Mr. Glover was able to get the assistance of a
good lawyer and one heroic American, a man named Len Savage.
Savage manufactures semiautomatic versions of well-known NFA
weapons (like the limited-edition Bren he donated as a JPFO
fundraiser, which you can see on our site
( He is one of the only
firearms makers who remains willing to stand up to the BATFE
when they're wrong even though several of its agents have
threatened to destroy him.

What you will see in this footage will shock you, even if
you think you know all there is to know about BATFE schemes.

First, you will see BATFE "expert" Michael Cooney - a man
whose investigations and testimony might possibly have put
dozens, if not hundreds, of gun owners behind bars - test
firing Glover's supposed "machine gun."

Then you you will see Len Savage calmly do what any
competent investigator would have done in the first place -
disassemble the firearm and reveal that the "machine gun"
was simply an ordinary semiautomatic rifle, assembled from
aging parts, that would occasionally - and dangerously -

You will see that the BATFE makes no attempt at any real
investigation. Their "experts" have no firearms
manufacturing experience, no engineering degrees, no
rigorous protocols to follow. They have no forensic labs, no
scientific method, no desire to discover the truth. You'll
see that its "experts" not only know very little about
firearms but don't even know the laws they're supposedly
enforcing. You will see them caught in the act (just like a
kid with his hand in the cookie jar) of doing the very
things they've gotten away with all these years.

Had Len Savage not disassembled that firearm, the BATFE
would almost certainly never have done so. The agency was
prepared to put John Glover in prison - to make him a felon
forever -- because he owned a broken gun!


We'd like to tell you that this story has a happy ending.
And in part, it does. When prosecutors saw this stunning
footage, they dropped the charges against Mr. Glover in

However, by that time, Glover had already had to mortgage
his house to pay his bail and $30,000 in legal fees. And
that's with a lawyer who worked for half his normal hourly
rate. Today, Glover barely answers his phone, can't sleep,
and lives in terror that someone will kick his door down in
the middle of the night, or arrive to drag him off to prison
for some other "crime" he didn't commit. And the BATFE still
refuses to return any of his firearms.

Perhaps federal agents will leave Mr. Glover alone in the
future. Who knows? But you should be aware that, among all
the BATFE's old methods, there's a new tactic afoot. We call
it an Economic Waco.

After several public catastrophes in the 1990s (the Randy
Weaver case and Waco among them), the BATFE is now less
likely to kick down your door, shoot you in your bed, or
stomp your kitten to death. Today, they can be more polite -
but more insideous. With new laws and technology giving
federal agents almost unlimited access to our financial
records, they can pick easy targets (like the lower middle-
class John Glover and like most of us). Once they've
targeted you, they relentlessly pursue you, forcing you to
spend all your resources to defend yourselves against them.

The new approach uses the velvet glove of legal proceedings.
But the iron fist of the BATFE police state mentality is
just as devastating.

One informant with a grudge, one sloppy agent just "doing
his job," and one bureaucratic boss is all it takes to ruin
your life. And on the footage we've obtained, you'll see how
casually they do it.

This is why we must work to get the word - and the
undeniable, visual, evidence - to every gun owner. We have
the evidence we've been looking for. Each of us must show it
to our friends, to decision-makers, lawyers, prosecutors,
judges, law-makers. We must show the world what the BATFE
really is - and what it really does to people just like us.


Packaging this footage (provided to us by Len Savage) was a
secret project, funded by JPFO membership and everyday
contributions. We could not openly raise funds to produce
the DVDs and VHS tapes for you, and we could not do any
advance publicity because that would have tipped our hand.
Advance notice might have given the BATFE time to prepare
some sort of coverup or counter propaganda.

By revealing the footage to the world without notice, we've
caught the entire BATFE in the same embarrassing situation
Agent Cooney found himself in by the end of the tape.

If you are a JPFO member or contributor, you can be proud.
Getting this footage to the world is YOUR accomplishment. If
you're not a JPFO member but you know one, please give that
person your thanks.

This is dangerous material. Not dangerous to you. On the
contrary, it could save your life. But dangerous to Len
Savage, who must face BATFE bureaucrats and submit to their
paperwork and approvals constantly. And dangerous to JPFO.
We can now expect three kinds of opponents to attack with
renewed fury: police staters, gun haters, and Jew haters.

When you use this footage, you'll also be able to tell who
the real friends and enemies of your gun ownership are. Show
it to a friend or to one of the "lesser of two evils"
politicians you might have had faith in over the years. If
that person in turn uses it to wake others up or curb BATFE
powers, you'll know he's not only your friend but a real
friend to freedom. If you show it to a friend (or a
lawmaker) and get a "ho hum" or a "Gee, that's awful, but
it's not my problem" reaction - and you'll know that person
isn't going to stand for your rights, now or ever.

This footage is a litmus test. It's something we never had
before and must use now.

Len Savage, who has already done so much, has persuaded his
congressman, Phil Gingrey, to introduce legislation in the
upcoming U.S. Congress to require the BATFE to tape all such
test firings and examinations of firearms in the future.
Another American hero, Larry Pratt, of Gun Owners of America
(GOA --, is supporting this

Although JPFO takes no position on any legislation, as
Savage points out such taping has little cost and many
benefits. It could put a stop to wasteful prosecutions and
force the BATFE to be more professional. It could save gun
owners' lives and families.

But that's in the future. For now, _this_ is the only
footage we have. And it's dynamite, if not nuclear.

We challenge all firearms decision-makers, including
manufacturers and other gun-rights groups, to join JPFO, Len
Savage, and GOA in using this footage to help rein in the
powerful, abusive, unamerican BATFE


  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Nice move, JPFO! I'm not a member, but I do think this is a good piece of information.

    Has anybody here seen Innocents Betrayed, JPFO's documentary? I haven't seen it yet. Is it any good?
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    Innocents Betrayed is excellent. Not just good for your own veiwing, but to show to friends and border-line anti-gun people. I bought the DVD of the movie partly to help JPFO and to also see and have a copy of the movie. Wish others would also.

    Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,845 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Need a link to where you can buy this tape.

    The gene pool needs chlorine.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1

    The second site is the home page...well worth the look see.

    The film is.....difficult to watch.For me,anyway....I simply cannot visulize people willingly marching off to be executed.

    It is graphic..some anti-gunners will reject it because it shows the reality of gun control..some pro-gunners will reject it.

    Mainly because they WANT to believe that the fedgov means only the best for us,in their gun control schemes...
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball, just like to get something clear (and I am not trying to offend you or anybody else, so don't take it that way). You have previously stated that it is futile to fight the political war. It is nice to see you supporting the JPFO. However, what do you think of other no-compromise groups like the GOA?

    I'm very seriously considering buying the Innocents Betrayed dvd, and I'm alread a GOA member.
  • longhunterlonghunter Member Posts: 3,242
    edited November -1
    Thanks for this post! Education,education,education!!! Wish the NRA leaders would see ..... ah well....Likw I have said,support the NRA ..if you think you must,However I would hope that most of us belong to at least one other No Compromise Group!
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    JPFO and GOA are the best of the lot. I belong to both.

    Larry Pratt will confide...if pressed..that the Political fight is about over.That was a few years ago..the last time I talked to him.

    Here you find the real problem.
    Advanced Member
    7084 Posts
    Posted - 01/05/2005 : 06:59:44 AM

    Propaganda..sales pitch.... IF you want a machinegun, have a clean criminal record and past history in the social world. IN other words you have made no enemies or caused civil uprisings. The Government will check your background and make calls. Don't give them any reason to doubt your sanity to fit in to the culture. Belong to NO cults,(KKK) or military style groups formed against the government. They just don't come knockin' for NO reason. IF you are in the above groups pay attention and get paranoid ... You might be watched..

    "I jumped thru the hoops and got mine..there must be something criminal about you if you insist there is a Constitutional Right to be free of gov. interference in the exercise of the Second Amendment..."

    In other Gun Owners giving aid and comfort to those seeking to destroy freedom in America.
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    That select-fire quote sums up the whole problem. A class III owner who has blind faith that the government will leave you alone if you are not a criminal.

    That's not the case. As shown by Waco and Ruby Ridge, if you are not a criminal the feds will convince you to be. They threw out one of the cases because it was determined that a federal agent convinced him to shorten his shotgun barrel... after killing his wife and kid.

    Ask any FFL holder if the ATF will only target bad gun dealers. They punish the FFLs who didn't do anything wrong (Ronnie Perkins?) or had minimal violations, but won't touch the "street vendors."
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