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GOA Alert, please read.

jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
They think we are stupid, but considering some of the things we let them get away with.... Anyway, there are ways to confirm judicial appointments without sacrificing the filibuster which isn't even a recognized parliamentary tactic for judicial confirmation nor is it constitutional. Please act.

Senate Considers Rules Changes That Would Expedite Semiauto Ban
Renewal, 50 Caliber Ban

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408

Tuesday, March 15, 2005

Last year, the renewal of the semi-auto ban had 52 votes in the
United States Senate -- a clear majority. President George Bush had
agreed to sign it into law. And sponsors had the ability to tack it
onto a huge must-pass money bill in the House.

True, anti-gun zealots were a little skittish about proposing gun
control on the eve of a presidential election.

It also helped that GOA's grassroots were incredibly vocal during
last year's fight over the semi-auto ban. Several times, GOA
activists helped "educate" their Senators -- and most especially,
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist.

But while grassroots gun owners fought and won several legislative
battles, GOA also resorted to "inside baseball" tactics to
help kill
the gun ban. On one occasion, GOA encouraged a friendly Senator to
threaten a filibuster -- a threat which ultimately kept the semi-auto
ban out of the DoD authorization bill.

In similar fashion, a filibuster by former New Hampshire Senator Bob
Smith (R-NH) slowed down post-Columbine legislation and gave GOA time
to kill it.

Had it not been for that filibuster, we would have been saddled with
legislation which would:

* Effectively eliminate gun shows;

* Impose a semi-automatic import ban;

* Require that you keep trigger locks on your guns at all times;

* Implement a lifetime gun ban for playground fights and other
juvenile indiscretions.

The bottom line? It is fair to say that time and again, a generation
of senators has filibustered gun control legislation -- or, more
importantly, prevented gun control from being considered by
threatening to filibuster it. Without the threat of a filibuster, we
would almost certainly have national gun registration... at the very

Now, in order to force confirmation of seven judges, the Senate is
considering abolishing the filibuster outright.

No one is underestimating the importance of the federal courts and of
pro-gun federal judges. And GOA has provided the Senate Leadership
with procedural tools that would force the confirmation of
Bush-nominated judges.

But the abolition of the right to filibuster, and the comprehensive
gun registration and control which is sure to follow, is not a fair
price for achieving the goal of a pro-gun Supreme Court -- a goal
which might not happen anyway, considering how awful many past
Republican picks have been (e.g., Sandra Day O'Connor, David Souter,
etc.). Yet Senate Republicans seem prepared to throw out the baby
with the bath water.

It is imperative that gun owners tell their Senators that they do NOT
support the abolishment of the filibuster... for any reason!

One more thing: Don't let your senator try to tell you that it is
possible to eliminate the filibuster of nominations, but not the
filibuster of gun control. It can't be done. The two filibusters
are inseparable.

To see GOA's in depth analysis of the filibuster -- and current
legislative efforts to kill it -- go to on the GOA website.

ACTION: Please use the pre-written message below to contact your two
senators. Tell them to preserve the right to filibuster gun control
and gun registration. Tell them to oppose the so-called procedural
"nuclear option," which would abolish the right to filibuster gun

You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at to send your Senators a
pre-written e-mail message.

Pre-written message

Dear Senator:

The semi-automatic ban was killed by the threat of a Senate

Legislation to effectively ban gun shows was killed, in part, because
it was stalled by a Senate filibuster.

The same is true for an anti-gun "lock-up-your-safety" proposal, a
semiautomatic import ban and a bill to allow racketeering suits
against gun dealers and manufacturers.

Now, some senators are proposing to do away with the filibuster
through the so-called "nuclear option."

Make no mistake about it: It is IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate the
filibuster of nominations, without effectively killing the filibuster
of gun control legislation as well.

Gun Owners of America has provided an in-depth Fact Sheet -- at -- which examines the benefits
of the filibuster and shows the pitfalls endemic to following the
so-called "nuclear option."

Please vote to preserve the filibuster of gun control and
registration. And please oppose the "nuclear option."



Note: Attempts to do future damage to your rights in exchange for
short-term advances are also prevalent in the states. In particular,
a genuine movement seems to be underway whereby pro-gun bills are
being saddled with state-level Lautenberg misdemeanor gun bans. Some
ask, why is this a problem? Such a provision simply mirrors current
federal law, right? Well, GOA would point out that two years ago, a
state-level semi-auto ban would also have simply mirrored federal

Thanks to your activism and the power of the filibuster, the federal
semi-auto ban no longer exists. And GOA has NEVER conceded that the
federal Lautenberg ban is here to stay, either. So to those
grassroots leaders who are working bills at the state level, we urge
you to insist that your bills stay "clean" and tell your friends in
the legislature that a state-level Lautenberg misdemeanor gun ban is
not acceptable under any circumstances.

Before they can convince you that rights emanate from them (the government), they must first eliminate God. They are working 24/7 to accomplish this.

"If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace" -Thomas Paine

If the people have become so apathetic that they will not vote out all the liberal scum (republican and democrat alike), the only solution is Constitutional Convention II the sequel. Let's get it right this time.

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of those who feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you. May posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
- Samuel Adams


  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,846 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have followed your last few postings of the GOA's alerts on the different boards.
    I didn't respond to them, just to see if anyone would.
    Isn't it amazing, the apathy shown here? [:(]

    Oh ya, you missed the "Gun Rights" forum with the last one. [;)]

    P.S. I don't use the "pre-written message" [:0]
    I like to write my own.

    The gene pool needs chlorine.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    You see now why I beg gun-rights activists to just relax.Let the inevitable happen.

    On this Gun Broker board there is probably 75 % agreement with one form or another with this or that gun control scheme.These folks profess themselves to be 'pro-gun'.
    Never fails to deeply the mass brain-washing has progressed.

    These people are secure..they beleve " They will always be law-abiding" enough to own guns...and besides,that fellow over there is a bit shady..we need laws to control 'him'...

    Stupidity runs rampant thru America today....and the last,best hope is a sweeping ban on firearms.

    I too,when first..and for a long time...posted such alerts and I have for 40 years locally.A waster of time..and I waste no more time doing it.

    If the empty suits want to find out if they are strong enough...let them pass their gun ban.
  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I've said this before and I'll say it again. If you call yourself pro-gun, yet you agree with even one gun kontrol scheme, you are anti-gun. No exceptions.

    Death to Tyrants!!!
    Lev 26:14-39

    Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.

    Luke 22:36.
    "Followers of Christ, be armed."
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