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ATF needs funding to help restore Gun rights.
tgf600
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ATF needs to be funded so that they can help and restore gun rights to NON-VIOLENT felons.
It is rediculous to pull gun rights for a crime that had nothing to do with the use of firearms.
What do you think??????????
It is rediculous to pull gun rights for a crime that had nothing to do with the use of firearms.
What do you think??????????
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The insanity of it all is a populace dumbly,blindly,stupidly supporting the politicians that keep these laws in place..and add more all the time.
God,Guts,& GunsHave we lost all 3 ??
Otherwise, it would make about much logic as taking away your driver's license because you embezzled money from your employer.
make the penalty be related to and fit the crime.
Quote "Somehow government decided that the Constitutional Bill of Rights has become the Bill of "Suggested" Rights and are to be rationed to the citizens as the power elite sees fit"
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
ATF needs to be funded so that they can help and restore gun rights to NON-VIOLENT felons.
It is rediculous to pull gun rights for a crime that had nothing to do with the use of firearms.
What do you think??????????
NEVER EVER EVER would i support the funding of ANY KIND to the BATF(E).. NEVER. THEY ARE the goon squad of the federal government.. they need to be disbanded, and all their employees need to be BANNED from ANY government jobs ANYWHERE.. FOR LIFE.... a good chunk of em should be put on trial for treason at that.
I was waiting to see when someone would address this part of the issue. There is NO way, that I would agree to ANY additional funding, going to one of the WORST alphabet CRIMINAL groups there is.
As for non-violent people loosing their gun rights, you don't even have to commit a "felony" to loose your rights. The laws need to be changed.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Wrong... the laws pertaining to gun right losses need to be abolished. All of them... even the ones dealing with violent felons.
"Whoa, wait a minute, gunphreak!!!", some of you might be thinking, but there is a reason why I say this. You honestly think a released felon gives a damn about a law forbidding the carry of weapons? I see almost regularly in newscasts all over the country (thanks to satellite TV) where repeat offenders use guns and knives to commit crimes, some of them after being out less than a month. And the penalty for carrying a weapon in any matter pales next to a malicious assault, murder, rape or robbery charge, anyway. It is, therefore a useless edict, plain and simple.
I've said it for years, these kind of laws are like condoms. They give you a false sense of security while you are getting (screwed). There is only one way to prevent the reoccurence of a violent felony, and that is to lock them up and throw the key away, or just outright execute them.
There is no other way.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
We need to build the wall.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
the whole damned state of Kommiefornia! And Arnold can be
President if he takes all his in-laws there with him!
I really hate to disagree with you Pickenup....But I'd give 'em
the whole damned state of Kommiefornia! And Arnold can be
President if he takes all his in-laws there with him!
oh they made that movie too... escape from LA... and the el presidente in the movie bears an uncanny resemblence to the current emperor.... prophetic?
While I agree with you in spirit, I will stick with the original movie I stated. Reason being is, New York was a prison, controlled by guards. You commit a bad enough crime, you go in, you NEVER come out. (or you had the choice of euthanasia before you went in)
Escape from L.A. was because the gangs controlled the city. Although gang members are more than likely felons, "convicted" felons and prisons are more in the context of the original post. I still say, let's build the wall. [;)]
The gene pool needs chlorine.
ALL of Kommiefornia...And Arnold can still take all the
Kennedys with him,,,especially senator lard *!
Our problem is that we make too many crimes felonies and we give too little punishment for too many of the felonies.
I wouldn't willingly give a single canadian penny to help fund the ATF as long as they remain the enforcement agency responsible for denying people their second ammendment rights.
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D.K.
You commit a bad enough crime, you go in, you NEVER come out. (or you had the choice of euthanasia before you went in)
I still say, let's build the wall. [;)]
the problem is, and always has been... long term consequences... sure, short term, build the wall,, put em in, throw away the key, and be done with it...
HOWEVER.. what if the people in power decide that gun owners are the problem.. and WE get thrown in the pen.. what if speaking out against the power becomes a crime (nearly so now) and they decide to throw in free thinkers...
once you unleash that power.. then you get to the cliche's "be careful what you wish for.. you might get it" .. and "be glad that you don't get what you pay for in government"
I would be all for death sentence or life in a hellhole for certain crimes... IF the "system" wasn't already totally stacked against us.... if we were to build the wall.. the FIRST and SECOND set of people to go in there would be all members of the BAR (aka attorneys/judges) and all politicians.... then all cops would be put on notice, that one violation of rights gets you a one way ticket...
rights need to be restored for the accused BEFORE we get too harsh on the guilty.
innocent until proven guilty is becoming extinct.
True enough, potential abuse is definitely a consideration. Lets throw another movie in there, Demolition Man. Now, anyone using or possessing salt, red meat, tobacco, etc. will go behind the wall.
People now serving life sentences, with no chance of parole, could go behind the wall.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
And while we're at it, defund the DEA. They are a prohibition-based agency that tramples of the rights of those who are in violation of more than just their stupid drug laws, as well.
Both groups are thug groups equivalent to the KGB or the Gestapo, and that's the bottom line.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
While we're at it, why don't we charge the anti-gun politicians with treason for betraying our country?
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
Were there any decent men in government..the alphabet agencies would be disbanded instantly.
Death to Tyrants!!!
Lev 26:14-39
Those who would offer any interpretation that would relegate Amendment II to "relic" status of a bygone era are blatantly stating that the remainder of the Bill of Rights isn't worth a damn, either.
Luke 22:36.
"Followers of Christ, be armed."
I understand where you are coming from. BUT.....
They use the EXCUSE of lack of funds to do that part of their job. They don't seem to have any funding trouble when it comes to taking guns away from people. You can throw all the money you want at them, my bet is that they will still use the same EXCUSE. How much you want to bet?
Here is the skinny from the ATF....
quote:(A10) Q. How can a person convicted of a felony apply for relief from firearms disabilities? [Back]
A. Under the provisions of the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), convicted felons and certain other persons are prohibited from possessing firearms. (See 18 U.S.C. section 922(g).) The GCA provides the Secretary of the Treasury with the authority to grant relief from this disability where the Secretary determines that the person is not likely to act in a manner dangerous to the public safety. (See 18 U.S.C. section 925(c).) The Secretary delegated this authority to ATF.
Since October 1992, however, ATF's annual appropriation has continuously prohibited the expending of any funds to investigate or act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities. This restriction is located in Pub. L. No. 107-67, 115 Stat. 514, which contains ATF appropriations for fiscal year 2002. As long as this provision is included in current ATF appropriations, the Bureau cannot act upon applications for relief from Federal firearms disabilities submitted by individuals. Consequently, we cannot entertain any individual's request for firearms restoration while this prohibition on the processing of such applications remains in place.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
How difficult is it?
The gene pool needs chlorine.