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Comengetit
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Had to delete, big brother might try to pin some BS like terrorism on me and I am the furthest from that.
"Life is like a box of chocolates...you never know what your going to get."
"Life is like a box of chocolates...you never know what your going to get."
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Entertining reading, those dead white guys...but of no relevence in this modern world.
The President, Congress,Courts,and Cops have mostly declared this document to be toilet paper.
Because the people alllow them to use it in such a manner.
A law is worthless unless it is enforced-and if the people do not require it to be enforced, then it is as if the law doesnt exist.
There isnt some higher authority that is going to "zap" an offender of the constitution- the guardian of the document has to be the people, and the people couldnt give a rats * about the constitution.
"Waiting tables is what you know, making cheese is what I know-lets stick with what we know!"
-Jimmy the cheese man
-WW
MOLON LAVE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
I agree that something SHOULD be done, just as my signature says, "If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced Patriots to prevent its ruin." But I fear we have no more experienced Patriots alive in our country. I am doubting whether we have any inexperienced Patriots left either.
Patrick Henry was a great Patriot because he saw the situation as it was, "Give me Liberty, or give me DEATH!" Because he risked death, his reward was to live with Liberty.
Today we are all living under the motto, "Take my Liberty, and let me live." Therefore our reward is to live with no Liberty.
-WW
P.S. I beg to differ on the Traffic Court issue. The City, County, or State is the one prosecuting me, not another citizen. They may get around this by saying "The People vs. WoundedWolf", but it is certainly a criminal trial, not a civil one. And even if they were somehow trying to play it off as a civil trial, then Amendment VII would kick in and I would still have the right to a jury trial (which never happens in Traffic Court).
Instead they have created a new type of crime called an "infraction", which apparently allows them to work outside of the Constitution. Besides, it doesn't matter either way. I can wave the Constitution all I want in front of a cop or judge and their bullets would still kill me and their gavels would still condemn me for life.
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
Perhaps today...when we have 30 year olds running around unable to change a tire..there might be a slight bit of validity to some of what you say. However....PARENTS decide when children are mature enough for a firearm...not you, and sure as hell not the government...except for the fact that government has cut the balls off the 'men' in this country...
Kids buying M-6o machine guns...? WW..I think you stretch the facts a little....? There was a rather facteous discussion over guns in vending machines that torqued off Fox...
But the point I have made over and over again...how can we condemn Shumer/Fiendstein/Kennedy...when our GUN FRIENDS ALSO promote gun control ?
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
However. Said gun OUGHT to be restricted..by the parent..to use under controlled conditions with adult supervision. A 22 ? Parents, again,should be the judge of when youngsters are allowed unsupervised hunting trips ....
quote:Moron ? Little fellow..you know not of what you speak.
quote:...if A youngster works hard and saves his money..he OUGHT to be able to buy a machine gun.
I rest my case, Comengetit. This evening the National Guard marches the streets of America, confiscating legally owned firearms from private citizens. And we little men argue amongst ourselves.
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
I don't have a son..but am proud to know SEVERAL 12-13 year old boys that hunt on a regular basis. Had I a son...he would be TRAINED in the way of the gun...and most youngsters I know handle firearms better then most adults...who get casual after many years...
Blaming guns for the failure of morals, ethics, and common sense is EXACTLY THE SAME THING Fiendstein/Kennedy/Shumer do....HOW ARE YOU DIFFERENT FROM THEM ?
WW; The Elite confiscate guns because WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT UNDERSTAND that GUN LAWS ARE EVIL.....we have bought and paid for everything happening and going to happen to us.
And...yes...I probably contributed to TR vacating this forum.
You better watch out. From the sounds of it, you may find someone else (Comengetit?) agreeing with you. [;)]
To clear up any misconception. I believe I am the straw that broke the camels back, when it came to tr fox's decision to not return to this forum. Agreed, there had been other "heated" arguments in the past, but I believe this one (see link below) did it.
As most know, tr fox is a ARDENT supporter of the NRA. (which I am not, and he knows it) In this case the NRA was still defending a COMPROMISED bill. There was a BETTER one available to us, a clean one, which is what the post was about.
Read, and decide, for yourselves.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=165141
P.S. Comengetit, welcome to the forum.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Myself...I cause a lot of them. Sickened endlessly at the sellouts..the "Compromisers"..(NRA, people supporting gun control)..I took the gloves off after 40 years...watching my rights go up in a haze of back-slapping by people dickering with the devil..(politicians)...I now call a spade a spade. Forcing people to look in the mirror...and many don't like what they see..so it is easier to hate me.
Stick around. Even an argument forces us to re-think and refine our positions...
I think the cause was a build-up of negativity over several years. Yes, TRFox is an ardent defender of the NRA, to a fault at times, but I believe he is a good man and a valued ally in this cause. He is still active in the General Discussion forum.
BTW, I believe Highball, or was it Pickenup?, or maybe both, is an NRA Life Member. Am I right?
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
No news from NO...save for one post discussing wet teams inserted for the purpose of killing 'gang bangers'...
Comengetit; Your stand is the correct one...based firmly in history and the courage of the Founders. I don't believe the time is right at this point in time. One reason I rail against the NRA...I think they work hand-in-hand with the scum in government. I believe they give advice on just how far gun-owners can be pushed.."This Time"...
Slowing down the ultimate outcome..total confiscation of firearms...till enough Americans die off it can be done without too much bloodshed.The last few generations of people born on American soil know NOTHING about the Constitution...and care less. They are not Americans....
I have been advising for awhile now...DO NOT BEG ON YOUR KNEES ANYMORE..to corrupt politicians to PLEASE obey the Constitution...allow them to pass ever more gun laws...ever more quickly...till even the pasty-faced pukes masquarading as men cannot any more deny the obvious...THEY INTEND TOTAL CONTROL of EVERY FACET of your life..and will be willing to kill anyone objecting....History, you see...is on MY side here....
Then we shall see if there are enough MEN left to deny them their victory...
What is happening in NO is in some far off distant land, for most of the sheeple, just something on the news, and they will not let it affect their everyday lives. This may sound kind of funny, but this is not a large enough event. (I guess ALL that do not go down there, are guilty of this)
Now if/when we have another terrorist attack (or something similar) and the "whole country" is under a "declared" state of emergency. When they are breaking into EVERY home to take ALL of the guns, only then will we find out who the real patriots are.
We could go into what would happen at that time, with no leadership, no preparation, no communication, but I'll leave that for another thread.
WW, as you see Highball is the life member, I am just a card carrying member.
P.S. I do think tr fox's heart is in the right place, just wish he could see some things more clearly. (just my opinion, mind you) Would welcome him back here ANYTIME.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Attempting to 'analyze' someone else is risky....but I believe from reading his posts that he is about where I was some years back. Not having a wife and children...I have the luxury of the time to study the political situation in America today...plus gun freedom has been near and dear to my heart for 45 years.
Years back...I actually thought that freedoms could still be won back politically..that politicians actually had the best interest of America at heart. Ensuing events proves that wrong...again and again.
Painful was the awaking...and I don't think Fox has made that jump.
I would truly like to sit down over a cup of coffee and have a free-ranging discussion with the good Mr Fox..'Cept I don't think he drinks coffee..[:D]
for you that can't find it here it is.
[1] _Marbury vs Madison_ "All laws which are repugnant to the
Constitution are null and void."
16th American Jurisprudence 2d, Section 177 late 2nd, section
256: "No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no
courts are bound to enforce it. The general rule is that an
unconstitutional statute, though having the form and the name
of law, is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and
ineffective for any purpose, since unconstitutionality dates
from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of
the decision so branding it."
A well armed society is the best form of homeland security.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you.
NRA write your Rep. will save a stamp
http://www.capwiz.com/nra/home/
GOA
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm
However, as I said earlier in this thread, "I can wave the Constitution all I want in front of a cop or judge and their bullets would still kill me and their gavels would still condemn me for life."
Knowing that their acts are un-Constitutional may give me little comfort as I lie in shackles or in my grave.
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
Simply put. The government is out of control...driving toward tyranny.
The people are brain-washed, brain-dead...or just plain stupid.
The situation is not bad enough..yet...to take up arms. Doing so today would ABSOLUTELY GUARNTEE HORRIBLE FAILURE...and failure is NOT an option.
ANY violent or illegel act will sideline you in jail...out of the action.
The ONLY effective action today is NON-ACTION....get OUT of the political system. Defund the "Slow-downers"..the compromisers that pass on to law makers just how much gun control will be acceptable to gun owners TODAY. That means STOP SENDING MONEY TO "gun-rights groups"...ALL OF THEM.
Without that umbilical to the grass-roots...law-makers will make the fatal mistake...they will start banning whole classes of guns Bubba uses.
Law-makers themselves will make Americans out of parisites..thru their Socialist/ agenda's.
I think this is a very good idea. If anyone knows how to technically set this up then I would be interested in participating. I would look into it myself, since I do work in the I/T field, but I really have no experience with managing forums or web encryption. I have thought to myself in recent weeks that it would be nice to have an "offline" method of communication among allies. I was even thinking of getting a HAM license.
quote:There are some 162 militia groups on the net right now, somehow they have to be banded together, privately.
Comengetit, we all must remember that these forums are completely open to the public.
[;)]
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
What do you suppose Fox is doing ?
The defination of insanity....do the same thing over and over..expecting different results. Just how long would you like to prolong the agony...till you and I are dead and the kids have it to do ? The politicians spend a lot of time laughing at their stupid subjects...as they tighten evermore the noose.
20,000 gunlaws...would 25,000 be better..? 30,000....? What ?
I say...we have already exhausted all avenues for redress. Withdraw and allow them their brief victory, as they pass that final total gun ban.
Continuing to 'fight the good fight'..crawling on our bellies, begging them to obey the Constitution..allows them to continue with the black box experiments...using our money to destroy any hope of regaining freedom.
This has typically been a slow and deliberate forum, which is a good thing. Folks don't go blowing their wad all over the place like in the GD forum. We all sit back and think a bit about what the other has said. Sometimes replies don't come for a couple days, but they are always thoughtful and from the heart, with the occassional emotional frenzy.
I would call this the "Thinker's" forum.
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
I would call this the "Thinker's" forum.
[:)]
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Comengetit, I see you edited out all of your posts on this thread. I hope the Ronnie Perkins stuff didn't * you.
I try to be careful with what I post on the forum. Those particular website links were probably riding the edge a bit. There are web crawlers that can search for websites that link to other websites, so if those groups were being investigated then they might look for other websites that had links to their web pages, thus leading them here.
Anyway, I hope this doesn't inhibit your future posts as I have enjoyed your opinions over the last several days.
[:)]
-WW
MOΛΩN ΛABE
-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
How about: "It happened one night..." Damn, I musta really been shook up!
"The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down to begin with."
"If I find you here Tonight..... THEY will find you here in the Morning"
The last thing one would want to see in a "free country" is people speaking their mind. Dangerous, don't you know...unless, of course, you parrot the latest "Patriot Act" as being the ABSOLUTE BEST THING since sliced bread..except, of course, it doesn't give the authorities enough tools to work with....
I hope to have a beer and a good talk with you someday. You think straight.
JPFO Life Member
www.jpfo.org
Sorry I missed what you said.
I was telling an old man I know , that when the law shows up at the door to collect all the guns after the ban , that most of us would say sure just a minute , I will get them for you .
I would have told the officer it would be detrimental to his health to do so.
He said that's right but he would say to the officer that's fine but just remember that I know where you live .
The NRA of witch I am a member, is a big help in many ways but always remember they need a cause to fight for . A cause makes for more members and more money. If gun control goes away so will the NRA.
(The flower beds in Georgia are watered with oil.)
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you.
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.- Ezekiel 25:17
"The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down to begin with."
"If I find you here Tonight..... THEY will find you here in the Morning"
"The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down to begin with."
"If I find you here Tonight..... THEY will find you here in the Morning"
Oh well, I must have missed something.
That's what I get for doing some work around home.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
3%..that is about the number that fell out in the streets to actively resist the British, a couple hundred years ago.
1/3 of the people informed or actively helped the Brits..
1/3 of the people just wanted to be left alone...
1/3 of the people helped in some way the "Sons of Liberty"...
That number holds true today..3 %. 3 people out of 100 that believe freedom is important..that 'cradle to the grave' governmental interferance is destructive to EVERYTHING one should hold dear...
A very small number of folks on here I would wish to engage in discussion over an adult beverage...[:D]..
"The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should have never laid down to begin with."
"If I find you here Tonight..... THEY will find you here in the Morning"
Any person living in America calling himself a man or American will resist such an order.
7 million men and women..the BEST the world has to offer. No force can stand and face them.
I pray for the Socialists/Fascists in power Godspeed in their mission to disarm us....
A ban on firearms similar to the Brits or Australia will be the dividing line.
Any person living in America calling himself a man or American will resist such an order.
7 million men and women..the BEST the world has to offer. No force can stand and face them.
I pray for the Socialists/Fascists in power Godspeed in their mission to disarm us....
Amen
JPFO Life Member
www.jpfo.org
A ban on firearms similar to the Brits or Australia will be the dividing line.
Any person living in America calling himself a man or American will resist such an order.
7 million men and women..the BEST the world has to offer. No force can stand and face them.
I pray for the Socialists/Fascists in power Godspeed in their mission to disarm us....
agreed
Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people than my gun.