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American Hiroshima?
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Has anybody been following this story?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46235
and
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=107844
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46235
and
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=107844
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Open borders will help the barbarians...almost make a fellow believe those in power WANT it to happen.
Were it to happen..bet your * that those in power will INSTANTLY declare martial law...and DEMAND instant obedience to ANYTHING they order....these people that will have contributed to such a savage strike.
Think about that..as you obey their edicts....hmmm ??
"90% of the game is mental, the other 50% is physical"- Yogi Berra, New York Yankees
quote:Originally posted by Highball
almost make a fellow believe those in power WANT it to happen.
Makes a fella wonder, doesn't it?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
When presented this hypothesis I have, in the past, laughed in the faces of those presenting it. Today, I shall apologize to those folks for not opening my eyes to the possibilities, at the very least......the possibilities...
"90% of the game is mental, the other 50% is physical"- Yogi Berra, New York Yankees
As for the pilots, I have not heard of any interviews of the pilot's families.
If you are asking how the UN-patriot act was passed so fast. It is because most DID NOT get to read it. They passed it "sight unseen"
Ron Paul was one of the VERY FEW that did NOT vote for the UN-patriot act. Why, you might ask. Because he practically demanded a copy of it, so that HE COULD READ IT, he could NOT get a copy of it.
It was passed "bully" style. If you don't vote for it (sight unseen) then you were labeled as being UN-patriotic. Being right after 9-11, NO ONE wanted to carry that label around....well almost no one.
Now lets talk about how such a detailed bill was "ready" to be voted on so quickly following 9-11. It is "rumored [;)]" that the government had prepared this BS bill ahead of time, and was just waiting? for "something" to happen so they could push it through. A little TOO convenient, some say.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
"90% of the game is mental, the other 50% is physical"- Yogi Berra, New York Yankees
I've been following this story for awile - and have been trying to devise an exit plan if such an event came to pass. Fact is, I work in Manhattan's financial district, and my apartment looks right across the river at the Big Apple. I've got a place 200 miles or so NW of here, but the question is how to get there - as I don't expect I'll be able to hop in my car and drive on up the Thruway.
Off to work -
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I think you can drive there. You have an advantage, you expect it to happen so when it does it won't take you an hour to re-orient yourself. You'll be out the door and on your way all packed and good to go while the others stand around in disbelief saying "How could this happen?" You'll have been gone for around an hour or so before the sheeple get around to evacuating, those that can anyway. Have a backup route just in case. Do you have an SUV? Get one. Get a couple three, four of those military gas cans also. You'll be glad you have them (full, of course).
I better simmer down naow, don't want to be accused of being paranoid. Although I am.
There are two kinds of people in this World.....Those that lead....And those that get the hell out of the way....GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
Flat8,
I think you can drive there. You have an advantage, you expect it to happen so when it does it won't take you an hour to re-orient yourself. You'll be out the door and on your way all packed and good to go while the others stand around in disbelief saying "How could this happen?" You'll have been gone for around an hour or so before the sheeple get around to evacuating, those that can anyway. Have a backup route just in case. Do you have an SUV? Get one. Get a couple three, four of those military gas cans also. You'll be glad you have them (full, of course).
I better simmer down naow, don't want to be accused of being paranoid. Although I am.
There are two kinds of people in this World.....Those that lead....And those that get the hell out of the way....GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
According to the last census, the Greater New York Metro Area is home to nearly 22 million souls. In the event of a major disaster, it will not be possible to "get ahead" of that traffic. Heck, the daily rush-hour is stop and go AT BEST. That being said, I've got three possible transportation scenarios that I have considered - four if you include me just hoofing it out. How I do it will be a decision I make on the fly. If I'm uninjured I will be ready to move, and fast.
As for you being paranoid, I'd have to agree that you are indeed a bit "touched" - but I like it![:D] My own feelings are to be prepared for the worst. If you're ready, don't dwell on it - and hopefully you can laugh about it in the future. Yet this one has me nervous. I was downtown at work during 911. I lost a few friends. So the unbelievable doesn't seem so unbelievable to me anymore. I've listened to Paul Williams speak, and he seems to be very sure of himself. I pray to God he is wrong . . . . and that I, like you, are a bit paranoid.
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I love it[:D]
A little bit of me being called a psycho, nut case, schizzo, or mental case and we're back to the gun rights talk. See what I'm sayin'?
There are two kinds of people in this World.....Those that lead....And those that get the hell out of the way....GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
9/11 ? We were told only part of the truth. What they lied about is perhaps beyond the capacity of some one sane to understand...the drive for power twisting minds beyond the ability to comprehend.
"At any given time, a tactical nuke exudes a temperature in excess of 100 degrees Fahrenheit. This means that they are prone to oxidation and rust. Moreover, the triggers that emit large quantities of neutrons at high speeds decay rapidly and have short half-lives - most would become useless without maintenance in less than four months. The nuclear cores also are subject to decay and over the course of several years would fall below the critical mass threshold. Though the shells that encase the cores are the most durable parts of the weapons, they, too, are subject to contamination. The tritium used to compensate for the required amount of conventional explosives to compress the fissile core within the compact devices is less of an issue since it has a half-life of 12.3 years. Taking all things into consideration, the attack should occur within the very near future. The bombs which bin Laden began building in 1992 are for the American Hiroshima."
I firmly believe that we must be vigilant and prepared with supplies, weapons etc. But I also firmly believe that it is more likely that we will obsess, worry stock pile, write on message boards, buy more ammo and guns and then...we will get hit by a bus on our way to work. Live each day as if it were your last and don't spend so much time preaching to the choir (Comengetit ;-)
Better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
While I am sure that another attack will be attempted in this country at some point, there are some inconsistencies in the accounts I have read about the American Hiroshima. As the articles I have read state, nuclear weapons require consistent, on-going maintenance, give off alot of heat and neutron radiation and have a limited shelf life. If Soviet era bombs are buried, who is maintaining them so that they do not become unuseable? Per Paul Williams' comments:
"At any given time, a tactical nuke exudes a temperature in excess of 100 degrees Fahrenheit. This means that they are prone to oxidation and rust. Moreover, the triggers that emit large quantities of neutrons at high speeds decay rapidly and have short half-lives - most would become useless without maintenance in less than four months. The nuclear cores also are subject to decay and over the course of several years would fall below the critical mass threshold. Though the shells that encase the cores are the most durable parts of the weapons, they, too, are subject to contamination. The tritium used to compensate for the required amount of conventional explosives to compress the fissile core within the compact devices is less of an issue since it has a half-life of 12.3 years. Taking all things into consideration, the attack should occur within the very near future. The bombs which bin Laden began building in 1992 are for the American Hiroshima."
I firmly believe that we must be vigilant and prepared with supplies, weapons etc. But I also firmly believe that it is more likely that we will obsess, worry stock pile, write on message boards, buy more ammo and guns and then...we will get hit by a bus on our way to work. Live each day as if it were your last and don't spend so much time preaching to the choir (Comengetit ;-)
Better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
Matchshot - Agreed. That is why I can sleep at night with the Empire State Building glimmering outside my window. Nukes ARE very tough to maintain - although tactical nukes (mines, etc) are a bit easier. Like I said, I pray Williams is wrong, but I won't be blinded by fear of the unthinkable.
Highball - Our politicians are truly insane - AND they have a dangerously symbiotic relationship with the Islamic terrorists - and that is what frightens me the most.
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Lets step back in time just a bit.
Lets talk about the Timothy McVeigh story. There was quite a bit of talk of more gun control after his truck went off. Funny that, since he didn't use a gun. (of course there were no guns involved in the twin towers incident either)
There was also a rumor of a third person involved. Could that third person have been the one, that pushed just the right buttons within Timothy, to get him to do what he did? The conspiracy theorists say it could have been a government employee. You do know that no third person was never caught, if indeed he did exist. [;)]
Conspiracy theorists abound. Although what Timothy did caused quite a stir, theorists say "they" needed a little more bang for the buck next go round, which they got with the twin towers. Got the UN-patriot act passed out of that one. They ask what's next, a nuke, quickly followed by martial law?
Am I close?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I may (may not) know where you were going with this.
Lets step back in time just a bit.
Lets talk about the Timothy McVeigh story. There was quite a bit of talk of more gun control after his truck went off. Funny that, since he didn't use a gun. (of course there were no guns involved in the twin towers incident either)
There was also a rumor of a third person involved. Could that third person have been the one, that pushed just the right buttons within Timothy, to get him to do what he did? The conspiracy theorists say it could have been a government employee. You do know that no third person was never caught, if indeed he did exist. [;)]
Conspiracy theorists abound. Although what Timothy did caused quite a stir, theorists say "they" needed a little more bang for the buck next go round, which they got with the twin towers. Got the UN-patriot act passed out of that one. They ask what's next, a nuke, quickly followed by martial law?
Am I close?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
The question is - WHO gains by these events? Who is the real winner? How many more Patriot Acts are on the table . . . . waiting?
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I may (may not) know where you were going with this.
Lets step back in time just a bit.
Lets talk about the Timothy McVeigh story. There was quite a bit of talk of more gun control after his truck went off. Funny that, since he didn't use a gun. (of course there were no guns involved in the twin towers incident either)
There was also a rumor of a third person involved. Could that third person have been the one, that pushed just the right buttons within Timothy, to get him to do what he did? The conspiracy theorists say it could have been a government employee. You do know that no third person was never caught, if indeed he did exist. [;)]
Conspiracy theorists abound. Although what Timothy did caused quite a stir, theorists say "they" needed a little more bang for the buck next go round, which they got with the twin towers. Got the UN-patriot act passed out of that one. They ask what's next, a nuke, quickly followed by martial law?
Am I close?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
Ya know, I thought it was McVey's buds that pulled off 911. (at first) Arabs never even occurred to me.
The duty to preserve one's self ought never be denied.
YOU BEEN NUNNED!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I may (may not) know where you were going with this.
Lets step back in time just a bit.
Lets talk about the Timothy McVeigh story. There was quite a bit of talk of more gun control after his truck went off. Funny that, since he didn't use a gun. (of course there were no guns involved in the twin towers incident either)
There was also a rumor of a third person involved. Could that third person have been the one, that pushed just the right buttons within Timothy, to get him to do what he did? The conspiracy theorists say it could have been a government employee. You do know that no third person was never caught, if indeed he did exist. [;)]
Conspiracy theorists abound. Although what Timothy did caused quite a stir, theorists say "they" needed a little more bang for the buck next go round, which they got with the twin towers. Got the UN-patriot act passed out of that one. They ask what's next, a nuke, quickly followed by martial law?
Am I close?
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I would say you're more than close, but you are still missing the major point in my post. I ask you this: If a nuke did go off in, say, Los Angeles, how would we have any clue who really did it? There would be no trace of the weapon and the perpetrator would be long gone when time hit zero. So, how do we know that what we have been told about WTC is indeed the truth? Why did GWB stay in that classroom and where was his sense of surprise? Were the passengers on the flight that crashed in pennsylvania pawns in a spectacular plot? If so, who's plot? Are you smellin' what I'm steppin' in here?
If the Senate was unable to proof read the Patriot Act wouldn't it be considered null and void due to irresponsible voting practices? At the very least one would think it would need to be put to a revote and follow all the normal steps a Bill takes to become law. All of these "Acts" are driving me bananas, Oh God, make it stop!
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
As for the McVeigh thing, no panel van full of diesal and fertilizer would do remotely the damage that they give him credit for. If anyone was watching CNN during that time you might have seen the part where they were interviewing a "first responder" who said there was plastic residue all over the supports.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
Even by cutting it from 1016 sections down to 16 (or 14) there were 171 voting AGAINST the renewal. Not quite the numbers recorded with the original back in 2001, is it?
Some cities / states have passed laws PROTECTING their constituents FROM the UN-patriot act. At least some people are waking up.
Here is a site that says a little bit about it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/07/22/MNG0VDS1SH1.DTL
P.S. Didn't miss the point, just won't play the game.....anymore.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
The gene pool needs chlorine.
I hear yah, but unfortunately we have to continue for this may turn out to be a war of attrition.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
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-Samuel Adams, Patriot/Brewer
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?