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KYfatboy
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If there was to be A total ban on guns, and all of us redneck hillbilly's were to take to the hills, what type of weapons would you take with you, keep in mind, the terrain you would be fighting in, and the avalibilty of ammo. My personal choice would be A 7400, 30-06, Kimber 1911 45, marlin 22 bolt, ruger mark 2, and bow, and arrow. What would be your's
parabellem
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parabellem
parabellem
1000 rds .308
200 rds .40
1000 rds .22
100 rds 12 GA
200 rds 7mm
The .308 is replacable via M-60 belts (military stock)
.40 will be replaced when supply exhausted from military stock (9mm or .45)
12 GA may be replacable thru local supply or military stock
7mm will be replaced by the .308 or ditched altogether.
That being said, under the circumstances you give there should be no such thing as a "sustained" firefight. Even then you will not have 4K rounds handy for such things. Engagement should last less than 30 minutes total before you boogie. Probably less than 10 minutes actual contact. Any longer and you get out maneuvered by superior numbers, and become subject to supporting fires (air, arty) something you don't have.
But I don't spend alot of time thinking or planning for such things.
When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
I, personally have spent a great deal of time planning. I am at the point where in no more than 30 minutes I can have everything necessary to survive for one month in the mountains with my wife and dog(my dog doesn't bark, ever). Here are my weapons and defenses.
One IV body armor vest covering sides, shoulde, and neck, in camo.
three different tactical vests
two sets camo clothing with many pockets
one set all black sniper wear
one ghilly suit
two pair mountain boots
thigh holster
one Glock 17 9mm w/ 3 33 rd. mags. and 5 17 rnders.
one Kimber Grand Raptor .45 w/5 mags.
two Ruger 10/22's one for food and one for parts
one Winchester 1300 12 Ga. w/ 18" & 26" bbls.
one Browning A-Bolt 7mm mag, My sniper rifle
four AR-15's with over 2000 rounds already clipped
one select fire AK-47 7.62
Food
Water
First Aid
Radio/Flashlight combo wind up
Clothing
etc. etc. etc.
I have around 12,000 rounds of ammo for the above mentioned guns. I would carry a whole bunch of .223 and 9mm. a few 7mm mags, a whole bunch of 7.62, five boxes of 12 Ga. #2 shot and 10 slugs, 500 rounds of .45acp, and around 2500 .22 rnds.
I have an Escalade with a ton of room inside and where we are going I have the perfect little cave to store it in. I already have ten 10 gallon fuel tanks full and at the getaway. I also have a generator and hepa filter system there. I'd say I'm prepared.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
.22LR
9mm
.38Spl/.357Mag
I like the interchangability of the .38Spl/.357Mag guns for times of scarcity. Some of these can even accomodate 9mm, like the Convertible Ruger Blackhawk.
.22LR can be stored in sufficient amounts that it should always be readily available. Everybody should have at least 5000 rounds of .22LR stored for varmint hunting and basic survival, c'mon that is like $50 worth.
Besides .22LR, I would expect that the most readily available ammo in a time of crisis would be the Military/NATO rounds... 9mm, .223, & .308. It would be wise to try and keep guns in these calibers, unless you have an adequate supply of another caliber with sufficient reloading capabilities.
I only have two rifles, a Ruger 10/22 and a Marlin 1894c in .38Spl/.357Mag. I keep some 160gr .357Mag hunting loads as an emergency measure. They would be enough to take down small deer within 100 yards in a survival situation.
For urban warfare, I am going to acquire a Ruger PC9 carbine. I also plan on acquiring a 12ga. pump shotgun for bird hunting and close quarters defense.
I will probably try to aquire a semi-auto .223 or .308 rifle at some point for an all-purpose hunting/battle rifle (like a Ruger Mini-14).
JMHO,
WW
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parabellem
parabellem
I think you maybe should spend a little time planning Bubba Fats has got the right idea, ja has got the right firepower and plenty of ammo, along with some other tricks.[:0][;)]
I, personally have spent a great deal of time planning. I am at the point where in no more than 30 minutes I can have everything necessary to survive for one month in the mountains with my wife and dog(my dog doesn't bark, ever). Here are my weapons and defenses.
One IV body armor vest covering sides, shoulde, and neck, in camo.
three different tactical vests
two sets camo clothing with many pockets
one set all black sniper wear
one ghilly suit
two pair mountain boots
thigh holster
one Glock 17 9mm w/ 3 33 rd. mags. and 5 17 rnders.
one Kimber Grand Raptor .45 w/5 mags.
two Ruger 10/22's one for food and one for parts
one Winchester 1300 12 Ga. w/ 18" & 26" bbls.
one Browning A-Bolt 7mm mag, My sniper rifle
four AR-15's with over 2000 rounds already clipped
one select fire AK-47 7.62
Food
Water
First Aid
Radio/Flashlight combo wind up
Clothing
etc. etc. etc.
I have around 12,000 rounds of ammo for the above mentioned guns. I would carry a whole bunch of .223 and 9mm. a few 7mm mags, a whole bunch of 7.62, five boxes of 12 Ga. #2 shot and 10 slugs, 500 rounds of .45acp, and around 2500 .22 rnds.
I have an Escalade with a ton of room inside and where we are going I have the perfect little cave to store it in. I already have ten 10 gallon fuel tanks full and at the getaway. I also have a generator and hepa filter system there. I'd say I'm prepared.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
I was being facetious.
When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
quote:Originally posted by Comengetit
I think you maybe should spend a little time planning Bubba Fats has got the right idea, ja has got the right firepower and plenty of ammo, along with some other tricks.[:0][;)]
I, personally have spent a great deal of time planning. I am at the point where in no more than 30 minutes I can have everything necessary to survive for one month in the mountains with my wife and dog(my dog doesn't bark, ever). Here are my weapons and defenses.
One IV body armor vest covering sides, shoulde, and neck, in camo.
three different tactical vests
two sets camo clothing with many pockets
one set all black sniper wear
one ghilly suit
two pair mountain boots
thigh holster
one Glock 17 9mm w/ 3 33 rd. mags. and 5 17 rnders.
one Kimber Grand Raptor .45 w/5 mags.
two Ruger 10/22's one for food and one for parts
one Winchester 1300 12 Ga. w/ 18" & 26" bbls.
one Browning A-Bolt 7mm mag, My sniper rifle
four AR-15's with over 2000 rounds already clipped
one select fire AK-47 7.62
Food
Water
First Aid
Radio/Flashlight combo wind up
Clothing
etc. etc. etc.
I have around 12,000 rounds of ammo for the above mentioned guns. I would carry a whole bunch of .223 and 9mm. a few 7mm mags, a whole bunch of 7.62, five boxes of 12 Ga. #2 shot and 10 slugs, 500 rounds of .45acp, and around 2500 .22 rnds.
I have an Escalade with a ton of room inside and where we are going I have the perfect little cave to store it in. I already have ten 10 gallon fuel tanks full and at the getaway. I also have a generator and hepa filter system there. I'd say I'm prepared.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
I was being facetious.
When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
Sorry, it went right over my head. I see it now that I know. I'll try to concentrate a little more.[:I][:D]
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
1) 308 military ball. 20,000 linked for belt feds. 10,000 for my HK with 1,000 in clips ready to go.
2) 7.62x39. 10,000 military FMJ with 1,000 in clips for AK. 1,750 AP for whatever I need it for.
3) 44 Magnum JHP. 4,000 rounds loaded with another 10,000 reloading capacity.
4) 22 LR. 25,000 rounds
5) misc. 338 and 7mmSTW high power rifle magnum rounds. 1,000
This is my personal stockpile of ammo and I try to add to it each year. It will get me by. I do agree that a sustained firefight can go on for not longer than 30 minutes. Then you're either in the clear or in real trouble.
When the SHTF I'm going to ja's house.[:D][:D]
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
DON'T keep all your stuff in one place. Strategically place stockpiles at relatives or really close friends places. Spread your stuff out so that IF you have to move on quickly (and are able to) that you know you'll have reliable weapons, ammo and money at several locations. Don't just keep all your best guns at one place and the throw away stuff at others, put what you know you'll be happy using at each area. Also you might consider putting away a little gold and silver. May come in handy. Good luck to everyone and may God be on our side. He was, with our founders![:)]
Molon Labe
Or jaflowers, or myself might leave the southeast for the colorado rockies
Don't go there, I'm probably gonna be stacking them up like cordwood as it is.
Don't want you to get lost in the shuffle. [;)] [:D] [:D]
The gene pool needs chlorine.
will take to pack all that ammo into the hills.
How about a small back pack w/ 5 cans of good
beans some cans of tuna and some crackers .
It still leaves room for a good 22 like a ruger
mark II or mark III ( the new one) w/bull bbl
and maybe a scope for it . 2 bricks of good HP
ammo and a good knife . Every thing else will
come along the way.
A man on the move is always hard to find.[8D]
A well armed society is the best form of homeland security.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you
I'm still going to the meeting place I mentioned before, Remember, Denver Intl. Airport, then to the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. Godspeed my friends the day draws near.
Don't forget gas masks and a change of filters.
There are two kinds of people in this World....Those who lead....and those who get the hell out of the way...GUT CHECK!...Which one are you?
comes. Supplies will be everywhere .
Ammo is very heave , when they come pick up
what they drop and get more.
You might have a supprize waiting for you if
one of the guys you were going to pick up with
decides to save his * and give them you.[8D]
Don't forget the feed for all of the mules it
will take to pack all that ammo into the hills.
How about a small back pack w/ 5 cans of good
beans some cans of tuna and some crackers .
It still leaves room for a good 22 like a ruger
mark II or mark III ( the new one) w/bull bbl
and maybe a scope for it . 2 bricks of good HP
ammo and a good knife . Every thing else will
come along the way.
A man on the move is always hard to find.[8D]
A well armed society is the best form of homeland security.
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.
Make yourselves sheep, and the wolves will eat you
This is why my stash seems so small. Mind you, this is not my plinkin supply and is packed to di-di. There will not be time to prepare after the fact. When its time to boogie-its time to boogie,not pack.
I would suggest stricktly dried beans,rice, bouillon cubes, and some herb/spices. A pound of rice will last quite a while, water can be found anywhere, meat is taken on the fly.
When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
The new technology allows them to get heat signitures at far distances...night vision able to see to kill a man at A THOUSAND YARDS..sound eqipment that can hear a mouse fart...
She's gonna be a gripe, boys. LOTS of us are going down.
...'tis better to live on your feet, standing as a man for 15 moments..then crawl on your belly for 50 years, pretending you are a man ....obeying the beast.
parabellem
Hvof in south central KY. Hey it also should be addressed while I believe that for myself I would be more of A guirella type, still no conflict has ever been won with irregulars only.Uh. No. See US revolution, Vietnam (both times, Iraq. Some one has to be the regular troops.[}:)]
parabellem
I believe precisely the opposite. A standing force is nothing more than a standing target
When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
We are all fertilizer in the making.
The trick is to slow down the process.[8D]
parabellem
The Beast has proven that burning to death 80 men, women and children is of no concern.
Gassing and carpet bombing is well within the guidelines to 'supress rebellion'..or just for 'sex with under age girls'....