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The Doomsday Provision

MatchshotMatchshot Member Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
Here's a great defense of the 2nd amendment from a mainstream journalist. The last part about the coming of tyranny is especially interesting...

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/JohnStossel/2005/10/19/171896.html

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    jaflowersjaflowers Member Posts: 698 ✭✭✭✭
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    a good read. thanks for the post.[:)]
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    pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Yup. [;)]

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    ComengetitComengetit Member Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good'n

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    codenamepaulcodenamepaul Member Posts: 2,931
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    Ditto.

    When the meekest of men raise their fist at you in defiance, you have lost. It is just a matter then of admitting it to yourself.
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    mixontourmixontour Member Posts: 39 ✭✭
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    Thanks for the link, I'm spreading this one.

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    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
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    WorkingzombieWorkingzombie Member Posts: 235 ✭✭✭
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    Ditto.It will make a great addition to my 2nd Amendment files.Thanks
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    wipalawipala Member Posts: 11,068
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    Guns are dangerous. But myths are dangerous, too. Myths about guns are very dangerous, because they lead to bad laws. And bad laws kill people.

    "Don't tell me this bill will not make a difference," said President Clinton, who signed the Brady Bill into law.

    Sorry. Even the federal government can't say it has made a difference. The Centers for Disease Control did an extensive review of various types of gun control: waiting periods, registration and licensing, and bans on certain firearms. It found that the idea that gun control laws have reduced violent crime is simply a myth.

    I wanted to know why the laws weren't working, so I asked the experts. "I'm not going in the store to buy no gun," said one maximum-security inmate in New Jersey. "So, I could care less if they had a background check or not."

    "There's guns everywhere," said another inmate. "If you got money, you can get a gun."


    Talking to prisoners about guns emphasizes a few key lessons. First, criminals don't obey the law. (That's why we call them "criminals.") Second, no law can repeal the law of supply and demand. If there's money to be made selling something, someone will sell it.

    A study funded by the Department of Justice confirmed what the prisoners said. Criminals buy their guns illegally and easily. The study found that what felons fear most is not the police or the prison system, but their fellow citizens, who might be armed. One inmate told me, "When you gonna rob somebody you don't know, it makes it harder because you don't know what to expect out of them."

    What if it were legal in America for adults to carry concealed weapons? I put that question to gun-control advocate Rev. Al Sharpton. His eyes opened wide, and he said, "We'd be living in a state of terror!"

    In fact, it was a trick question. Most states now have "right to carry" laws. And their people are not living in a state of terror. Not one of those states reported an upsurge in crime.

    Why? Because guns are used more than twice as often defensively as criminally. When armed men broke into Susan Gonzalez' house and shot her, she grabbed her husband's gun and started firing. "I figured if I could shoot one of them, even if we both died, someone would know who had been in my home." She killed one of the intruders. She lived. Studies on defensive use of guns find this kind of thing happens at least 700,000 times a year.

    And there's another myth, with a special risk of its own. The myth has it that the Supreme Court, in a case called United States v. Miller, interpreted the Second Amendment -- "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" -- as conferring a special privilege on the National Guard, and not as affirming an individual right. In fact, what the court held is only that the right to bear arms doesn't mean Congress can't prohibit certain kinds of guns that aren't necessary for the common defense. Interestingly, federal law still says every able-bodied American man from 17 to 44 is a member of the United States militia.

    What's the special risk? As Alex Kozinski, a federal appeals judge and an immigrant from Eastern Europe, warned in 2003, "the simple truth -- born of experience -- is that tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people."

    "The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do," Judge Kozinski noted. "But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed -- where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once."


    "When you choose the lesser of two evils, always remember that it is still an evil."
    - Max Lerner
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    MatchshotMatchshot Member Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
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    I sat the other night with a group of very liberal folks having a drink after a training session in their store. The store is in Princeton NJ and, needless to say, I was the only conservative these folks have seen. The store owner laughed and said that I also love guns and shooting. This was a shock to them in that I actually have all my teeth and can complete a full sentence. The press these folks read portrays us as wild eyed wing nuts who marry our sisters and make moonshine after the Klan rally. The guy sitting next to me said he had shot a rifle once, a .30-06, and it was hard to hit the target. I told him that shooting, like playing golf is a learned skill and a well made gun is a joy to hold and fire because it is so well built and put together. I then offered to take him to the range and let him shoot my AR-15 (w/NM sights and 2 stage trigger, of course). I may get him out there.

    I live in one of the most restrictive, paternalistic states in the union. The people here have gotten used to it and are surprised when
    someone comes along that doesn't think like the herd. Does it make
    a difference in the larger sense? Probably not, but it makes a difference to two people, the one I talk to and me.

    Remember, the definition of a born again gun tottin' conservative is a liberal who has been mugged...


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