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Sorry. I dont ship to that state?
tprdelc
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I dont understand some sellers on Gunbrokers.com. There are a very few sellers that will not ship certain items to certain states. Especially ammo. I live in NJ. I recieve guns and ammo from many people on Gunbrokers.com. I also recieve ammo from many mail order catalogs. I recieve ammo via UPS, FEDX and just about every other shipping company out there. I am not aware of any law that makes it illegal, or difficult to ship guns, ammo, or accessories to NJ provided it does not fall under the "assault weapons" ban. These few people who won't ship to every state are doing more to disarm Americans than any anti gun movement ever accomplished. If these few really wish to defend the second amendment of the constitution they can start by shipping to every state in our nation. After all people made much bigger sacrifices than that to defend our country and the constitution. Just think, you may be refusing to sell ammo to a Vet.
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I dont understand some sellers on Gunbrokers.com. There are a very few sellers that will not ship certain items to certain states. Especially ammo. I live in NJ. I recieve guns and ammo from many people on Gunbrokers.com. I also recieve ammo from many mail order catalogs. I recieve ammo via UPS, FEDX and just about every other shipping company out there. I am not aware of any law that makes it illegal, or difficult to ship guns, ammo, or accessories to NJ provided it does not fall under the "assault weapons" ban. These few people who won't ship to every state are doing more to disarm Americans than any anti gun movement ever accomplished. If these few really wish to defend the second amendment of the constitution they can start by shipping to every state in our nation. After all people made much bigger sacrifices than that to defend our country and the constitution. Just think, you may be refusing to sell ammo to a Vet.
Do you mind if I ask what kind of sacrifice you have recently made to protect your gun/ammo rights. So that you won't think I am being sarcastic, I will cheerfully tell you what I have done.
If I could go to Federal prison for shipping something to a state where I wasn't sure it was legal, I can understand why I wouldn't even bother at all. Why open myself up to that kind of liability?
Are you saying it is the responsibility of each seller to be versed in the firearms laws of all 50 states? Maybe some are, but the overhead cost of their auctions is probably so high that they don't sell anything.
Don't beat on those oppressed by these insane laws, instead fight the laws! There is a reason why NJ has an anti-gun reputation.
-Wolf
-Savage
quote:Originally posted by tprdelc
I dont understand some sellers on Gunbrokers.com. There are a very few sellers that will not ship certain items to certain states. Especially ammo. I live in NJ. I recieve guns and ammo from many people on Gunbrokers.com. I also recieve ammo from many mail order catalogs. I recieve ammo via UPS, FEDX and just about every other shipping company out there. I am not aware of any law that makes it illegal, or difficult to ship guns, ammo, or accessories to NJ provided it does not fall under the "assault weapons" ban. These few people who won't ship to every state are doing more to disarm Americans than any anti gun movement ever accomplished. If these few really wish to defend the second amendment of the constitution they can start by shipping to every state in our nation. After all people made much bigger sacrifices than that to defend our country and the constitution. Just think, you may be refusing to sell ammo to a Vet.
Welcome to the forum.
I can understand your frustration about a few folks not shipping ammo to your state. NJ (and other states) have such an anti-gun reputation, that some people just choose not to do business with the whole state(s). Fair? No, but around here (this forum) we find that the MAJORITY of gun owners will NOT even "do their homework" when it comes to preserving their gun rights.
I don't think fox was trying to get into a pissing contest about the military. Lots of folks here (this forum) never served in the military. Fox is (one of) our members that advocates joining one (or more, preferably) pro-gun organization.
Why not talk about your situation here "as well as" talking about it with your VFW friends? I am an advocate of gathering REAL news from the internet, not that shaded "stuff" the regular media tries ramming down our throats.
But even with all that, I place the burden on myself to try and do SOMETHING at least every month to actually try and slow the rising tide that is taking our citizen/consitutional rights away. And I take other people's complaining if they tell me that they are also doing at least a little something in the here and now.
To be quite honest, I cannot stand someone who loudly shouts that "someone should do something" about our lose of rights, yet they themselves are presently doing nothing but shouting.
Now the above is a vague, general statement and not directed at anyone. So I hope there is no one here who actually IS NOT presently and activately doing at least some effort towards helping preserve our rights and will therefore take unintended offense.
While the written law might allow for shipment of firearms/accesories to your cesspool of a state-ya never know when Jersey officials might not be happy with the law, and bust the sellers *, even though he isnt doing anything illegal. Jersey is famous for ignoring the rule of law, I wouldnt take a chance.
Dont take anything personal about not wanting to turn this into a discusion about military service. I think salzo makes both of my points clear. He will not ship to NJ because he has pesonal opinions about the state. I served my country to protect our constitution along with so many others who live in the so called cesspool and God forsaken states. we "took a chance". I guess we realy didnt have a choice back then. I was very young. What I have learned since then is that our constitution only protects the people from the government. It does not protect the people from the people. Now I find that the people are the ones that would deprive me of my rights. Its no different than a radio talk show host or newspaper editor that wants you to fight for his first ammendment rights then turns off the mike because he dont like what you have to say, or tosses your opinion in the trash becouse its the wrong opinion. No one has to ship anyplace they dont want to, for any reason the have. That is your right. Lets just be honest about it like salzo so we all know what were fighting for.
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I don't think it has as much to do with his personal opinion of the state as it does protecting his own interests. How would you like to sell me some ammo, perfectly legal in your state, only to have the feds arresting you for an unlawful transaction to another state you thought was ok for transaction? In NJ, it may be perfectly legal now, but the real problem is when the rabid antigunners there want to nab you, they'll find a way, legal or not. That is their reputation.
TR Fox
I think salzo makes both of my points clear. He will not ship to NJ because he has pesonal opinions about the state.
I didnt say that. Read the post again.
I would not ship to a resdient of your godforsaken state because YOU PEOPLE of the state of New Jersey have proven time and time again that you dont like guns, and that you will ignore the law to advance your personal agendas. I refuse to take a chance to allow your state the opportunity to make an example out of me, notwithstanding the written law.
You got a problem that people do not want to deal with the hassle of doing business in your state-blame your people, not the people exercising their right to do business without hassle.
And by the way, I dont think that people in New Jersey should be allowed to have guns. Any people who cant handle a gas pump, shouldnt be able to handle firearms. And I sure as heck dont want to send a gun to someone who doesnt know how to pump gas.
quote:How would you like to sell me some ammo, perfectly legal in your state, only to have the feds arresting you for an unlawful transaction to another state you thought was ok for transaction?
Is it worth the risk? salzo has a point, but none of you are seeing it. Harassment is the name of the PC game. Ammo is evil in certain states. You never know when some politico will be able to dig up some buried regulation against interstate sales of. well, anything, really, but guns and ammo would definitely be at the top of that list. The risk isn't worth it.
Perhaps if all of us, and all gun, and ammo manufactures were to take Ron Barrets stance we would not have as much of these silly gun control laws in states like nj.
I would say that pretty much says it in a nutshell. Ron Barrett's refusal to sell his mammoth .50 BMG to certain states government law enforcement is a credit to manufacturers. If they all would combine forces, there for certain, would be no more gun laws. What are they going to do, buy all their stuff from out of country. That's all fine and dandy except all of that has to go through shipping channels, customs, and inspections I find it hard to believe that the greatest source of weaponry ever conceived would be a possibility and in no way could our totally inept government pull it off, so they have to buy the guns and ammo here in this country and with Ron Barrett refusing to sell to them they are forced to buy an inferior product, perfect! Way to go Ron! There's one guy who's not afraid to 'buck' the system
I realize this got off track a bit but not far, if you think about it, this is exactly what ammo salesmen are saying to N.J.. If they won't ship it to you and it's legal to do so then there is a message in there somewhere. I think they are saying, " clean up your states views on gun rights or we refuse to sell to you." I am with them on this one!