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tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
The Second Amendment "Legal Trick"
By Charles Erwin


In the aftermath of the District of Columbia vs. Heller case, the Second Amendment is somehow still not safe in the United States. The Supreme Court held that individuals in the District of Columbia have a right to bear arms, but now we are asking the Supreme Court attorneys to decide whether the Second Amendment applies to the States and the Cities within the United States of America. I was not aware America fought a Revolutionary War against a British King so nine Supreme Court attorneys of the BAR (British Accredited Registry) could RULE over our Constitutional Rights.were you? One of these supposedly landmark cases we're asking the seemingly new Kings and Queens in the Supreme Court to RULE upon is McDonald vs. City of Chicago.

As a Sovereign American Citizen, I understood why the Supreme Court "might" have the jurisdiction and venue to make a legal ruling on the Second Amendment in Washington D. C. concerning the District of Columbia vs. Heller case. After all, the District of Columbia is not one of the 50 Union States protected by the Constitution for the United States of America and its properly ratified Amendments. The District of Columbia is supposed to be the lawful seat of government in the United States of America. However, most Americans don't realize certain Treasonous representatives within our Federal Government created an additional legal seat of government for the United States, known as the Government of the District of Columbia, with the "Act of 1871". An Internet search will reveal much information pertaining to the "Act of 1871", but an excellent description of this particular unlawful and unconstitutional act of Congress can be found at http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm. The lawful District of Columbia in the capitol city of Washington is still the seat of the Federal Government in the United States. Unfortunately for Americans, certain Special Interest controlled governmental representatives have inflicted America with the Government of the District of Columbia and its legal Corporate/Territorial United States government as a Special Interest alternative. These two forms of government exist in the capitol city of Washington, but they are not the same government. The creation of a government of legal laws to replace our government of lawful laws is the foundation for infinite "Legal Tricks" using the Corporate/Territorial United States.

These "Legal Tricks" used by Congress, both Democrats and Republicans, are currently destroying our American way of life. Legal tricks used by the attorneys in Congress allow our governments to attack our Natural Rights and Constitutional Freedoms with legal yet unlawful and unconstitutional laws. Most Americans have been conditioned to believe legal is the same thing as lawful. If this is what you believe, you are wrong! Allow me to explain how their "Legal Trick" works in general, then we'll break down its use where the Second Amendment is concerned.

Basically, there are multiple definitions of United States defined by the legal profession. The attorney's and lawyer's Black's Law Dictionary 5th edition has the following:

United States - "This term has several meanings. It may be merely the name of a sovereign occupying the position analogous to that of other sovereigns in family of nations, it may designate territory over which sovereignty of United States extends, or it may be collective name of the states which are united by and under the Constitution."

If Black's Law Dictionary is correct regarding the term United States having "several meanings", then I'm probably correct in my assessment of the "Legal Tricks" being used by our government and judicial systems. In our current legal "System", the United States and its Government of the District of Columbia can be viewed as a legal "territory" or a legal corporation. On the other hand, the United States and the Federal Government created by the Founding Fathers still exists as the lawful "collective name of the states" of the Union in America. One of the central elements of the "Legal Trick" is BOTH United States are "united by and under the Constitution". The legal Corporate and/or Territorial United States use the Constitution of the United States. The lawful Original United States use the Constitution for the United States of America. These are NOT the same "Constitution"! The legal Constitution of the United States can be found on the United States Government of the District of Columbia website at http://www.gpoaccess.gov/constitution/index.html. A copy of the lawful Constitution for the United States of America to be used by the Federal Government is located on the Internet at http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm.

Now that we have evidence of the existence of multiple United States with different Constitutions, let's go to United States Code (USC) Title 28 Section 3002 for proof a legal Corporate/Territorial government has taken control of America using legal laws to override our lawful laws, the Constitution for the United States of America, and our Natural Rights as Sovereign American Citizens. United States Code (USC) Title 28 Section 3002 located at http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/28/usc_sec_28_00003002----000-.html has the following legal definitions of "State" and "United States".

"(14) "State" means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.

(15) "United States" means-
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States."

As you can see in the text from United States Code (USC), the definition of "State" is basically "any territory or possession of the United States", and the "United States" has been transformed into "a Federal corporation" by the majority of our Republican and Democratic EMPLOYEES in Congress. Don't be fooled by the definition of "State" where it leads you to believe it "means any of the several States" of the Union. The term "any of the several States" does NOT define "any of the several States" of the Union, but "the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States" defines Territorial States quite well.

Looking at the verifiable evidence, it points toward the actual existence of two United States. Let us now distinguish the legal United States entity from the lawful United States entity by putting the legal Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES in all capital letters.

After viewing the evidence so far, it appears a fact the United States has two governments. The lawful Federal Government of the Founding Fathers and the legal Government of the District of Columbia created by Treasonous representatives in Congress with the "Act of 1871". In spite of these probable Treasonous facts, this article will not rely on facts because facts do not always lead to Truth. The American people must view the verifiable evidence found in facts to find the Truth. For example, according to United States Code (USC) Title 28 Section 3002, it is a LEGAL fact the UNITED STATES is "a Federal corporation". Meanwhile, in the original United States, the LAWFUL fact points toward America still existing as the "collective name of the states which are united by and under the Constitution" for the United States of America. The American people must decide which type of facts lead to the Truth.LEGAL facts found in unconstitutional laws of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation", or LAWFUL facts found in the constitutional Supreme Laws of the Land in the United States "of America". Our governmental agents at the Local, State, and Federal levels can represent and pass legal or lawful laws for both entities. Currently, the majority of our governmental EMPLOYEES are using the legal laws of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation" to rule America. How's that working out for most of my readers?

Hopefully, we have our facts leading to the Truth straight, so let's dive into the specifics of the Second Amendment "Legal Trick". In a nutshell, the "Legal Trick" is executed by manipulating your perception. Certain Treasonous governmental representatives in the Federal, State, and Local governments have been working with the Mainstream Media for one hundred plus years to give the American people the perception legal is the same thing as lawful. This deception of perception officially began with the Congressional "Act of 1871", which created the Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES and its Government of the District of Columbia. This overall "Legal Trick" of a Treasonous Congress was reinforced over decades with the creation of the Corporate/Territorial Constitution of the United States and our governments, at all levels, enacting legal laws violating the lawful constitutional Supreme Laws of the Land and our Natural Rights. The next time a representative of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation" tells you "it's the law"; discover if they are referring to the legal law or the lawful law. It makes a huge difference where your American Freedom is concerned!

Now that once free Sovereign American Citizens have been legally led to the brink of physical slavery by our Tyrannical governments, disarming 100 million gun owners is a top Democratic priority to deliver America into the hands of the New World Order. That's where this recent Second Amendment "Legal Trick" to disarm the citizens of the United States of America comes into play. Please don't misunderstand me when I say disarming America is a Special Interest controlled Democratic priority. There are many Special Interest controlled Republicans who are also against the Second Amendment.

At this point, most of the Democrats and Republicans holding office in government are representing the Special Interest Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES "Federal corporation".not you and me. If you haven't taken a hard look at the state of our nation.please do so now. The majority of our Special Interest controlled Democrats and Republicans are under very strict orders. The Democrats marching orders are to disarm America by attacking the Second Amendment and enacting legal gun control laws. The Republicans marching orders are to attack all our other Natural and Constitutional Rights using other legal laws. Recent history gives us much evidence of this woeful Truth. President George W. Bush and the majority of his Republican Party violated our Constitutional and Natural Rights using 9/11 to create the legal Department of Homeland Security and pass the legal Patriot Act. For some reason, President Barack Obama and the majority of his Democratic Party have not repealed the unconstitutional passage of the legal Department of Homeland Security and the legal Patriot Act. Instead of repealing the Republican's unconstitutional legal laws, the Democrats choose to pounce on the Second Amendment using the Second Amendment "Legal Trick" and legal gun control to disarm America. I can't say for a fact, but the Truth appears both Presidents, and most members in their political parties in government and the judicial "System", are working for the Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES "Federal corporation", created by Elite Special Interest representing the New World Order. Basically, the Democrats disarm us slowly by attacking the Second Amendment while the Republicans attack all our other rights. This cycle goes on and on because there have been NO CONSEQUENCES when certain Democrats and Republicans betray the American people. When there are NO CONSEQUENCES for criminal acts, criminals usually repeat their crimes.

Let us now delve into their particular Second Amendment "Legal Trick". An article from the NRA (National Rifle Association) at http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=5237 states the following:

"The U.S. Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments in the McDonald v. City of Chicago case on Tuesday, March 2, 2010.
The McDonald case is one of several that were filed immediately after last year's decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the Court upheld the Second Amendment as an individual right and invalidated Washington, D.C.'s ban on handgun possession, as well as the capital city's ban on keeping loaded, operable firearms for self-defense in the home.
On November 16, the NRA filed its brief with the U.S. Supreme Court as Respondent in Support of Petitioner in McDonald v. City of Chicago. The NRA brief asks the U.S. Supreme Court to hold that the Second Amendment applies to state and local governments through the Fourteenth Amendment."

As you can see, the NRA and its Patriotic lawyers filed a brief with the "U.S. Supreme Court". The NRA brief asks the nine attorneys of the British Accredited Registry (BAR) in the "U.S. Supreme Court" to decide whether the constitutional "Second Amendment" applies to our "state and local governments" based on the "Fourteenth Amendment". I must admit being a long-time member of the NRA, but the NRA and every other pro "Second Amendment" organization and lawyer is being legally tricked by our governments and the judicial system with cases like "McDonald v. City of Chicago".

The Second Amendment "Legal Trick" has many layers, so we have to use the Tenth Amendment to adequately expose this legal deception. The Second Amendment and the Tenth Amendment fall within the Bill of Rights as two of the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS to the Original Constitution for the United States of America. We'll be discussing the Tenth Amendment a bit later as it fully exposes the Second Amendment "Legal Trick" used by our governments at all levels. Additionally, please be aware the Bill of Rights is NOT your Natural or Civil Rights. The Bill of Rights is additional lawful and properly ratified constitutional laws put in place for the Federal Government to uphold and follow.NOT Sovereign American Citizens to follow. Where the "Fourteenth Amendment" is concerned, there are many, me for one, who believe it was never properly ratified to the Original Constitution for the United States of America. Unfortunately, that lawful reality would not stop the Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES "Federal corporation" from using the possibly legal "Fourteenth Amendment" in their Corporate/Territorial Constitution of the United States.now would it? An Internet search for the "Fourteenth Amendment" will reveal much information. A good article to read can be found at http://www.truthsetsusfree.com/14thAmendment.pdf.

There is evidence in United States Code (USC) of the existence and creation of legal Corporate/Territorial entities known as the United States, UNITED STATES, or UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, which is actually "a Federal corporation". The majority of our governmental EMPLOYEES are using these legal entities and legal laws to take away our American Freedom by destroying America's lawful entities and lawful laws. If the "Fourteenth Amendment" was never properly ratified to the Original Constitution for the United States of America, then asking "the U.S. Supreme Court to hold that the Second Amendment applies to state and local governments through the Fourteenth Amendment" is a dangerous Second Amendment "Legal Trick". Allow me to expose all the elements of this Second Amendment "Legal Trick" by using excerpts from my book American Freedom A Conversation with America for "Change" in the UNITED STATES. For an expanded explanation of government "Legal Tricks" in general using legal laws versus lawful laws, please go to my website at http://www.americanfreedombooks.com/ and download the first two chapters of the book for FREE.

The following is a question and answer segment using source text from an article by Mr. Ken Blackwell. In case you haven't noticed, the blue text in this article comes directly from my source and reference material (If the posting software translates the text color). The same goes for the blue text used in content from the book below.
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"Question: Did the Heller "ruling mark a turning point in gun rights in this country"?

Answer: NO, the Heller ruling ONLY pertained to the Corporate/Territorial UNITED STATES "Federal corporation", which consists of Washington D. C. and its territorial possessions. In "this country", known as the United States of America, judges cannot "change" or "interpret" the original Constitution.

Question: Does "the Bill of Rights only control the federal government"?

Answer: NO, the "Bill of Rights" to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America was created as additional laws for the "federal government" to follow so "They" would not overstep their authority. Despite that, the "Bill of Rights" are STILL properly ratified Amendments to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. All the "states" of the union in America must abide by the properly ratified Supreme Laws of the Land included in the ENTIRE Constitution for the United States/United States of America. The individual "states" in America cannot pick and choose which Constitutional laws and Amendments they wish to follow. The Constitution is the document which "United" the "states" when America was created. The states" formed a "Union" by "Uniting" under the lawful laws of the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. It is impossible for the "Bill of Rights" to apply to the "federal government" under the Constitution for the United States/United States of America without it also applying to the union "states". The "federal government" cannot EXIST without the "states"!!! Without the union "states", the "federal government" becomes "a Federal corporation".

Question: Does "the Bill of Rights apply directly to states or cities"?

Answer: YES, please see answer above for more detail. Our "cities" exist as a part of the union "states". If the Constitution applies to the "federal government" and the union "states" per lawful "Union" contract, it's impossible for it not to apply to the "cities" within those union "states". The "Bill of Rights" is a part of the lawful "Union" contract uniting the union "states" known as the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. Only an attorney or an attorney turned politician would attempt to convince you otherwise.

Question: Does "the Second Amendment apply to the states"?

Answer: YES, the "Bill of Rights" is properly ratified Amendments to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. All the "states" of the union in America must abide by the properly ratified Supreme Laws of the Land included in the ENTIRE Constitution for the United States/United States of America. The union "states" can't throw out the "Second Amendment" as it is a part of the Supreme Laws of the Land in America. The union "states" have their own Constitutions and "state's" rights (NOT Sovereign rights, ONLY the American people are Sovereign in America) to pass laws. However, any and all laws passed by the union "states" must also abide by the ORIGINAL Constitution per "Union" contract which formed the United "states" of America in the FIRST PLACE. Until and unless the union "states" throw out the ORIGINAL Constitution and disband the United "states" of America, "the Second Amendment" WILL "apply to the states".

Question: Do "the parts of the Bill of Rights that are "incorporated" through the Fourteenth Amendment apply to the states"?

Answer: According to your author and much verifiable evidence, the "Fourteenth Amendment" is actually the legitimate and legal groundwork for the creation of the Elite Special Interest's future Government of the District of Columbia/Corporate United States. Based upon the evidence, the "Fourteenth Amendment" was never PROPERLY and lawfully ratified to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America, but you can bet it was legally ratified to the Constitution of the United States/United States of America. The "Fourteenth Amendment" is like legal United States Code (USC) for the Constitution. The legal trick used in the question above is to get YOU to believe the "Fourteenth Amendment" is a part of the "Bill of Rights". The "Bill of Rights" is the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. Unless we're using some form of new legal math, the "Fourteenth Amendment" does not fall within the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS to the Constitution. That means the "Fourteenth Amendment" is NOT a part of the "Bill of Rights" because the "Bill of Rights" is the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS to the Constitution! The question we are discussing is steeped in legal mumbo jumbo Mind Control having NOTHING to do with the United States of America or the "Bill of Rights". Nonetheless, Treasonous politicians would like nothing more than to get YOU to accept the IMPROPERLY RATIFIED legal "Fourteenth Amendment as the equivalent to lawful constitutional laws found in the "Bill of Rights".

Question: "If your state or city bans all guns the way Washington, D.C. did" is "that okay under the Constitution"?

Answer: Hell NO! Please review all answers above for greater detail. Any union "state" or "city" within that union "state" must abide by ALL the properly ratified lawful laws in the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. As long as the American people have Natural Rights and the "Second Amendment" to the Constitution for the United States/United States of America continues to exist, Treasonous political "bans" on "guns" are NOT "okay" in "your state or city".

Question: "If Chicago, or even the state of Illinois or New York, wants to ban you from owning any guns at all, even in your own house," is "that okay"?

Answer: NO, as long as "Chicago, or even the state of Illinois or New York", are a part of the "Union" of "states" in the United States/United States of America, they too must abide by the Constitution for the United States/United States of America. In EVERY case, "Chicago", the "states of Illinois or New York", and all the other union "states" and their "cities" are constitutionally and lawfully bound to uphold the "Second Amendment". That means, "They" CANNOT "ban you from owning any guns at all, even in your own house".

Question: Should Sovereign American Citizens possessing Natural Rights be "arguing Second Amendment incorporation in court"?

Answer: NO, especially since private citizens have owned guns in America prior to the Constitution and the "Second Amendment" existing. Patriotic lawyers, like those in the NRA, are forced into "arguing Second Amendment incorporation in court" because of our Treasonous governmental representatives and the Traitorous Judicial System."

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Hopefully most of my readers can see the Second Amendment "Legal Trick" being used by our governmental and judicial representatives. When Federal, State, and Local Treasonous agents of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation" attack the "Second Amendment", they are attacking the legal "Second Amendment". You know.the legal "Second Amendment" found in the legal Constitution of the United States. These smart judges and attorneys, especially those in the Supreme Court, are aware they cannot make a lawful ruling violating the "Second Amendment" to the lawful Constitution for the United States of America. Somebody like me or a politician like Congressman Ron Paul might notice and alert the American people Treason was afoot. So, they choose to trick us with legal mumbo jumbo definitions giving us the perception the legal "Second Amendment" and the lawful "Second Amendment" is the same. We cannot blame Patriotic lawyers for falling for this Second Amendment "Legal Trick" because the lawyers go to the same law school as the attorneys. Everyone possessing a British Accredited Registry (BAR) card license today is taught the legal Procedure of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation". It's the "System" Special Interest owned politicians have used for 100 plus years to slowly take away our freedom. How many of my readers think we fought a Revolutionary War against a British King to win our freedom, and the Founding Fathers lawfully gave all decisions concerning our freedom to judges in the Supreme Court carrying British Accredited Registry (BAR) card licenses? America did NOT rid itself of King George to replace him with King and Queen Judge where constitutionality is concerned! Yet almost everyone in the UNITED STATES is constantly asking judges, many who were appointed FOR LIFE instead of elected, to RULE on the Constitution. It requires a Constitutional Convention to modify the lawful Constitution for the United States of America. We have been manipulated and taught in school to accept the legal laws of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation", and its legal Constitution of the United States for 100 plus years too long. In the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation", Natural Rights and lawful laws insuring freedom don't exist.but Treasonous Politicians and the Mainstream Media make you think they exist by manipulating your perceptions.

Some of you might not believe this Second Amendment "Legal Trick" using legal versus lawful Constitutions and Bill of Rights, so allow me to use the Tenth Amendment as definitive proof. Many of the 50 union States are attempting to use the Tenth Amendment in the Bill of Rights to declare Sovereign States' Rights from the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation". This use of the Tenth Amendment by the States brings up a disturbing question. How can the Tenth Amendment to the Bill of Rights apply "to state and local governments" and the "Second Amendment" to the Bill of Rights NOT apply to "to state and local governments"? Regardless of the Constitution being used, the Bill of Rights consists of the FIRST TEN AMENDMENTS. How could BOTH these Amendments in the Bill of Rights not apply "to state and local governments"? Let's view more content from American Freedom A Conversation with America for "Change" in the UNITED STATES for an explanation.

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"Prior to delving into suggestions on how to restore our Freedom, we need to address the dangerous issue of Sovereign States' Rights being tossed about by State politicians and the Mainstream Media. Mr. Alex Jones had the following to say about Sovereign States' Rights on his website from an article at
http://bit.ly/8PGWAO.

"The Tenth Amendment is part of the Bill of Rights and was ratified on December 15, 1791. It states the Constitution's principle of Federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states and to the people. It is based on an earlier provision of the Articles of Confederation: "Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom, and independence, and every power, jurisdiction, and right, which is not by this Confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled.""

According to information from the article being discussed, "Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering such measures."

The Tenth Amendment to the Bill of Rights reads as follows:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Now that we have all the information we need to discuss Sovereign States' Rights, let's dig into the topic. The issue of Sovereign States' Rights concerns your author greatly. We know the Corporate STATES have ALL willingly become child corporations of the parent Corporate United States long ago. Our union State and Corporate STATE governmental agents were happy to be willing participants in the Corporate legal "System" for decades, so why the "change" of heart? Do the above States wish to "change" back to the lawful "System" or is this some kind of legal trick?

Before we go any further, let us explore the existence of this particular legal trick. Allow me to show you the type of legal trick used often by the slick politicians controlling our governments. This particular trick involves their use of the "Tenth Amendment" to the "Bill of Rights". The States/STATES of "Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment". Their "declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment" is viewed as legal on one hand. On the other hand, their use of the "Bill of Rights" and the "Tenth Amendment" seems to directly contradict the previously mentioned question of whether "the Second Amendment applies to the states". The "Second Amendment" and the "Tenth Amendment" are BOTH properly ratified Amendments in the "Bill of Rights". That being the Truth, how can our governmental representatives attempt to REJECT the "Second Amendment" being applied "to the states", while ACCEPTING and INTRODUCING "bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment"? The "Tenth Amendment" AND the "Second Amendment" are BOTH Amendments within the "Bill of Rights", so how could the leaders of our governments and Judicial "System" ACCEPT the "Tenth Amendment" while REJECTING the "Second Amendment" where those BAD guns are concerned?

It might be confusing, but the answer is quite obvious. Where the "Second Amendment", BAD gun owner rights, GOOD "gun control", and legal court cases like "NRA v. Chicago" are concerned, our Treasonous governmental officials and Judicial "System" are ATTEMPTING to use the Corporate "Constitution and Corporate "Second Amendment to "ban all guns" unlawfully and unconstitutionally in "your state or city" using legal laws. On the other hand, when "declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment" for THEMSELVES, "They" chose to use the lawful laws in the Original "Constitution and IGNORE the Original "Second Amendment". Everything these jerks do is a legal versus lawful SCAM, and this example proves my case. I told you the "Bill of Rights" applied to "your state or city" and the States "declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment" to the "Bill of Rights" is definitive PROOF. The States/STATES can NOT "introduce bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment" to the "Bill of Rights" for Sovereign States' Rights on one hand, and then claim the "Second Amendment" to the "Bill of Rights" does not apply to "your state or city". Either the "Bill of Rights" applies to "your state or city" or not; "They" can't have it both ways.

Between the Mainstream Media, Special Interest attorneys, Patriotic lawyers and counselors trained to use legal Procedure, and a Treasonous government and Judicial "System", the American people don't know what to believe, but "American Freedom Man" has your back. We must FORCE governmental agents to use lawful law AT ALL TIMES. We cannot allow Treasonous politicians to pick which Amendments in the "Bill of Rights" they wish to follow. We must punish them when "They" lie to us with STUPID unconstitutional premises like the "Tenth Amendment" applies to "your state", but the "Second Amendment" does not apply to "your state", when BOTH Amendments fall within the "Bill of Rights". We must NEVER allow Treasonous politicians to use the Corporate "Second Amendment to destroy gun owner rights while using the Original "Tenth Amendment to declare some type of State "sovereignty" for THEM. Always remember, there is an Original "Second Amendment and an Original "Tenth Amendment" in the Constitution for the United States of America. Conversely, there is a Corporate "Second Amendment and a Corporate "Tenth Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America. Sadly, the Original "Constitution" has been put to sleep by Treasonous EMPLOYEES within our governments at all levels."
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In conclusion, hopefully, I've exposed and explained the LEGAL facts behind the Second Amendment "Legal Trick". Outside of the evidence in this article exposing the Second Amendment "Legal Trick", I must impress upon my readers a most important LAWFUL fact. You see.the Truth is the government has no authority to legally or lawfully restrict American Citizens from carrying an arm of any kind. Remember, American Citizens owned and carried firearms freely BEFORE the creation of the United States of America and the Original Constitution for the United States of America. Sovereign American Citizens require no permit from government EMPLOYEES giving them permission to carry a gun concealed or in the open. Today's American Citizens have been tricked by the Special Interest Mainstream Media and Special Interest Politicians with many forms of legal mumbo jumbo unlawful and unconstitutional laws. American Citizens of old knew they possessed Natural Rights from God, Nature, and the Universe to be armed for offense or defense of life and country. Permits giving legal permission from government EMPLOYEES were not required. Man's legal or lawful laws did not grant us Natural Rights, and man's legal or lawful laws cannot strip us of our Natural Rights.unless we allow it to happen. The primary function of our Local, State, and Federal Governments is to secure the Natural and lawful Constitutional Rights of the American people. Our governments have failed miserably in this primary function because there have been NO CONSEQUENCES to the majority of their Treasonous legal actions. Until the American people severely punish governmental EMPLOYEES for their legal betrayals, the Second Amendment "Legal Trick", and those like it, will continue to destroy our nation. Asking the legal Corporate/Territorial "U.S. Supreme Court" of the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation" to "hold that the Second Amendment applies to state and local governments through the Fourteenth Amendment" will likely end in disaster for the lawful United States of America. There can be no American Freedom under the current legal "System" in the UNITED STATES "Federal corporation". As long as we are governed by the unconstitutional legal laws of the Corporate/Territorial Constitution of the United States, the American people will NEVER be free. Patriotic lawyers doing battle with Treasonous and/or misguided government attorneys in courts of legal law will NOT insure our lawful American Freedom under the Original Constitution for the United States of America because the legal Judicial "System" is using the legal Corporate/Territorial Constitution of the United States in our courts. At this pivotal point in history, only "We the People" can insure our American Freedom by FORCING our governments to restore our Natural Rights, the Original Constitution, and our Sovereignty as American Citizens. Can 300 MILLION American Citizens FORCE our Local, State, and Federal governments to restore the lawful laws and constitutional laws of our American Republic? YES WE CAN!

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    tallcharlietallcharlie Member Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭
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    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

    This is not about one right, it's about two separate rights:
    The second amendment does not only protect the right to keep and bear arms. It also protects the right to have a militia, and then goes on to protect the right to keep and bear arms.

    It does not make arms rights conditional upon the existence (and thereby definition) of a militia. It makes both the militia and arms inviolate.

    In the first amendment, the founding fathers could just have easily written, "A free press, being necessary for the existence of a free state, freedom of speech, shall not be infringed."
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    codenamepaulcodenamepaul Member Posts: 2,931
    edited November -1
    I think you misinterpret the intention/meaning of the word militia in its context. I do however, agree with the premise.
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    tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    So....who/where is this militia?
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    gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:I think you misinterpret the intention/meaning of the word militia in its context. I do however, agree with the premise.

    Naw, he hit it square. In order for a militia to exist, arms need be the central focus of it, otherwise, it is merely a retarded afterthought. The 2nd Amendment does acknowledge both the right to assemble into militias, and the right to keep and bear arms, but not exclusively for that purpose.

    Consider also, the 2nd Amendment is an extension of the 1st Amendment "right to assembly". In the 1st Amendment, the right to peacably assemble is guaranteed, but this would preclude the idea that a militia, assembling for the non-peacable purpose of doing violence to those who threaten the community, state or country would be disallowed.

    Enter the 2nd Amendment, which spells out by definition when the assembly of the citizen fighting force is justified. It's kind of like the difference between the 5th and 6th Amendment vs. the 7th Amendment, in how the first two deal with criminal cases, while the other deals with civil cases.
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    Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,597 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I think that the 2nd Ammendment means the Government is allowed to have guns [;)]
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    mrseatlemrseatle Member Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I still like the ninth the best....[8D]

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    gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    quote:I still like the ninth the best....


    I understand that, but I still like the 2nd the best, simply because if it didn't exist, none of the rest would, either.
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    joker5656joker5656 Member Posts: 5,598 ✭✭✭
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    "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

    What it means to me, well the first part "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state" means to me, if me and my neighbors wanted to get together and march and do tactics then we can. if you look at the Revolutionary War, you see the Militia isn't part of the regular army but as regular citizens acting as an extension of the Army.

    the second part "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" well it means me, you, and my neighbors all have the right to bear arms, meaning if i want a gun i can get a gun.

    the third part goes for both parts "shall not be infringed" means what it means they (gov) can't infringe my rights like in San Fransisco take away guns. Have the right to tell me how many i can buy, tell me i need to pay a high amount of money to obtain a license just to own (the rich, like in England). Although there should be some regulations they don't need the number of violations on the books as they do, i call them violations cause they infringe on my rights to bear arms, not the criminals, they treat me like a criminal there going to get more cause people will get fed up with the gov eventually
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    gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It never fails to amaze me how, when brought up to bat, on, say, the Gun Free Skool Zone Akt, we argue that there is no district or boundary authority. When we face up to the registration aspects of gun kontrol, we are it as it is against the 4th Amendment. In the face of a gun ban, we reason with the logic that these guns are not the types used in crimes, everything except the defense that the Second Amendment forbids any law.

    That said, is not the Second Amendment a dead letter??
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    HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    ANY argument concerning Gun Laws sans the Second Amendment..is specious.
    Those advocating gun laws...the NRA, for example...cannot in good conscious USE the Second Amendment as a counter-argument..since they have agreed to water the Right down so many times over the years.
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