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Canada shooting - How can that happen?

BudRBudR Member Posts: 17 ✭✭
So sad to hear about the student that went on a shooting rampage in Canada. But wait, how can that possibly happen? I thought it was nearly impossible to possess a firearm in Canada. Isn't that supposed to nearly eliminate this sort of thing? Yeah, right. When will the anti-gun crowd finally wake up to the fact that gun control only empowers and emboldens the criminals? In Washington DC, it is illegal to possess a firearm and yet it has our highest murder rate. Australia's crime rate has gone wild since guns were outlawed as has Great Brittain's. When, oh when will the anti-gunners wake up? My guess?? Never.

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    Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
    edited November -1
    There are many sane, civil and law-abiding citizens who expect the government, i.e. the laws, the courts and the police, to fully defend and protect them against criminals, particularly the violent ones. For them, it is a leap of faith made IN GOOD FAITH.

    There is a mental and emotional deferment of one's personal safety to those who are in power, made in exchange for the forfeiture of protecting oneself with a gun, knife, etc. And, as we have learned, the police do not generally prevent crime, they respond during or afterwards.

    I didn't say it was the right thing to do or that it was intelligent. I'm just offering one opinion as to why.
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    WoundedWolfWoundedWolf Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I don't know how many people this scumbag shot before he killed that girl, maybe she was first, but I know in a free country where folks are packing, the dirtball would have maybe got off two or three rounds before he had a slug in between his eyes.

    -Wolf
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    Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
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    One of the greatest misnomers is the phrase "Crime Prevention". It has weakened the resolve and responsibility of every law-abiding member of society by lulling many into a very false sense of security. The "warm and fuzzy" feeling if you will.

    Truth is that no one can prevent crime. Not even if you could crawl into the mind of someone contemplating the commission of a crime. Not even if you were watching them all of the time. At some point, that person will act upon the urge and commit the crime, even if immediately caught.

    Perhaps the phrase "crime deterrent" may have more value and truth to it.

    As an example, if the cops set up a checkpoint at a given location, it's reasonably safe to assume that the crimes for that evening will probably occur in a different neighborhood, significantly away from the checkpoint. And so, crime was deterred in the immediate vicinity of that evening's checkpoint.

    The same for locking doors and windows, buying and using a safe, having a mean ol' junkyard dog, a Club on the steering wheel of your car, an alarm, barbed wire, etc.

    All are deterrents - but not preventers. The more desperate the criminal, the greater the risk he or she will take.

    It all comes down to each law-abiding man and woman in our society making the conscious choice to either own and maintain a weapon for protection OR rely upon 911, neighbors, good samaritans, etc. to get there in time.

    Back in the 60's a young woman named Kitty Geneovese was brutally stabbed to death while her neighbors heard her screams, shut their windows, drew their curtains closed and refused to "get involved".
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    gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There is a way to prevent crime. That way is to kill offenders the first time. The following things occur from this single act.

    1. That perp will never do anything to anyone ever again.
    2. For all fence-sitting criminals, the example has been made.
    3. Legal system is not exhausted by incarcerating a criminal.
    4. There is no fear that this individual will ever be released early.

    That is crime prevention 101
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    RedfeatherRedfeather Member Posts: 1 ✭✭
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    To member Slow_Hand.

    Re: your post of 9/17.

    Thank You!!!!!!!! A pleasure to meet someone who understands how things work.
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    dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
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    Redfeather, welcome! Good to see new people on this forum.
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    codenamepaulcodenamepaul Member Posts: 2,931
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
    There is a way to prevent crime. That way is to kill offenders the first time. The following things occur from this single act.

    1. That perp will never do anything to anyone ever again.
    2. For all fence-sitting criminals, the example has been made.
    3. Legal system is not exhausted by incarcerating a criminal.
    4. There is no fear that this individual will ever be released early.

    That is crime prevention 101


    10X!!!!
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    Slow_HandSlow_Hand Member Posts: 2,835
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Redfeather
    To member Slow_Hand.

    Re: your post of 9/17.

    Thank You!!!!!!!! A pleasure to meet someone who understands how things work.


    You're very welcomed, Redfeather!

    Welcome aboard GB! It's good to have you here with us. Just remember to wear your hipwaders cause it can get a bit deep here.[:0]

    [:D][:D][:D]
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