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Pickenup, I need GOA Pamplets.

tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
My friend is now trained to be a KS CCW instructor and since I have spoken highly of the GOA, he has asked me to obtain some pamplets for him to pass out in his class (in addition to the NRA pamplets, sorry). I have emailed GOA asking for some pamplets and offering to pay a modest amount for them but have gotten no response. Do you have any contacts that might help?

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  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can't really help you here. I'm not sure if the GOA makes pamphlets, but they have plenty of material on their site that could easily be used for handouts. I especially like their fact sheets. Check out http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm.

    Also, it is great to see that you are recommending the GOA. Thanks for the support of my favorite group. Good to see your friend actively supporting the cause. Very encouraging. [:)]
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dsmith
    I can't really help you here. I'm not sure if the GOA makes pamphlets, but they have plenty of material on their site that could easily be used for handouts. I especially like their fact sheets. Check out http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm.

    Also, it is great to see that you are recommending the GOA. Thanks for the support of my favorite group. Good to see your friend actively supporting the cause. Very encouraging. [:)]


    Thank you. As you know, my policy is to support (or at least not disparage) any pro-gun group that is at least 51% successful in fighting for gun rights.
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    I could probably get by with a few dozen old (but recent) GOA newsletters.If nothing else I will just print off several pages of the GOA internet home page and have my friend pass that out to his students. Come to think of it, I might also do that with the national CCW holders organization. Can't think what it is called right off hand but I can locate it.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, no contacts outside of their newsletter and website. Not sure they have pamphlets. I usually just print out articles or newsletters that I like, and pass them around.

    What? You didn't go for the training too? Just think of all the women you could meet, AND they have an interest in guns. [}:)] [;)][:D][:D]
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    Sorry, no contacts outside of their newsletter and website. Not sure they have pamphlets. I usually just print out articles or newsletters that I like, and pass them around.

    What? You didn't go for the training too? Just think of all the women you could meet, AND they have an interest in guns. [}:)] [;)][:D][:D]


    OK, thanks for the response. In regards to the training, I am thinking about trying to get a waiver. I mean, Geez S. Crist, I have spent years and years and miles and miles carrying a gun. And each year I have to shoot and pass the Federal Police Firearms course. Surely that should count for something. And I already have all the women in my life that I need.

    But thanks for thinking.[8D]
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I like the women advice. Thanks pickenup.

    Fox, did you decide what you are going to do for the GOA materials? It seems like a waste to just ignore their contributions because they don't have pamphlets. Is the idea of printing out the newsletters or the fact sheets acceptable for the situation?
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dsmith
    I like the women advice. Thanks pickenup.

    Fox, did you decide what you are going to do for the GOA materials? It seems like a waste to just ignore their contributions because they don't have pamphlets. Is the idea of printing out the newsletters or the fact sheets acceptable for the situation?


    Yeah, my printing off the internet home page of GOA should work. Especially if I attach a short note informing the CCW students how vitally important it is for them, if they want to retain their CCW rights, to join and support at least one local and one national pro-gun rights group. Otherwise there will come a time when they lost their gun rights. Just today was a news article stating about how one of the fairly large and very wealthy KC suburbs, Leawood, KS has already passed a preemptive anti-CCW law for their city. The Leawood law goes far beyond the limitations found in the KS state CCW law. The Leawood law prohibits CCW not only on Leawood city property but even includes "any city buildings, parks and greenways". What the hell is a "greenway"?
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    What the hell is a "greenway"?
    Around here, we call them a "Green-belt." They are basically a pathway through a suburban setting, left in it's more or less "natural" condition. Most of the time, they are laid out following creeks or rivers that flow through towns. Walking/biking paths, as well as picnic tables/areas are commonly placed in them. Also gives critters a place to hide/live. Can be miles long, depending on how much money is set aside for it.

    As for Leawood, sounds like Denver. They both SUCK.
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    quote:Originally posted by tr fox
    What the hell is a "greenway"?
    Around here, we call them a "Green-belt." They are basically a pathway through a suburban setting, left in it's more or less "natural" condition. Most of the time, they are laid out following creeks or rivers that flow through towns. Walking/biking paths, as well as picnic tables/areas are commonly placed in them. Also gives critters a place to hide/live. Can be miles long, depending on how much money is set aside for it.

    As for Leawood, sounds like Denver. They both SUCK.


    Interesting. Kinda like the bike trails we have here. Which BTW we have had numerous women bikers attacked and of all places that is a place where CCW is needed. But as usual it sounds like the liberals don't agree.
  • BluesStringerBluesStringer Member Posts: 24 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just checked and I have aprox. 45 emails from GOA. Most are legislative alerts and calls to action, but there are some editorials and essays in there too. If anyone wants any/all of 'em, just ask and I'll either post some (all?) or zip 'em up and send 'em to you. They date back to Feb. '05.

    Just got one today as a matter of fact, and I think it's important for everyone to consider it, so here it is: (Hope I'm not steppin' on your toes here pickenup)

    quote:Bush Summit To Discuss Solutions For School Violence
    -- Great opportunity for GOA to show politicos facts, not emotions

    Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
    8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
    Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
    http://www.gunowners.org

    Tuesday, October 10, 2006

    After three fatal school shootings in a week, President Bush has told
    Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Education Secretary Margaret
    Spellings to come up with solutions to addressing the problem in our
    nation's schools. Specifically, the meetings -- which begin this
    week -- will host educators and law-enforcement officials from around
    the country.

    They are charged with reviewing security procedures around our
    nation's schools to help prevent campus-based violence.

    GOA has a great opportunity to show the President and others how to
    stop gun violence on school grounds. Of course, it's inevitable that
    the gun issue is going to come up. The media is already clamoring
    for that.

    "There is a link in these killings," opined The Charlotte Observer.
    "A gun was used." So, we need more gun control, the paper's editors
    say.

    The Charlotte Observer is not alone. And that's why it is important
    that the gun owning community present evidence showing how we can
    make our schools safer. As GOA pointed out last week:

    1. No amount of gun control would have stopped Charles Carl Roberts
    from acquiring guns to commit his atrocity. Roberts had a clean
    record and would have passed any and every background check.

    2. The so-called "gun free school zones" have to go. Such
    disarmament zones never stop bad guys from taking guns into a
    restricted area. In fact, statistics show that the jurisdictions
    that ban guns tend to be the same areas with the highest murder or
    crime rates (Washington, D.C., England, etc.).

    3. The only school shootings that have been stopped prematurely were
    ended because law-abiding citizens had guns -- such as in Pearl
    Mississippi (1997) and at the Appalachian School of Law (2002), where
    faculty and responsible adults were able to bring their own defensive
    firearms to bear. This is an idea that Americans support, as 85% of
    the American public find it appropriate for a principal or teacher to
    use "a gun at school to defend the lives of students" in stopping a
    school massacre (Research 2000 Poll).

    To this end, Wisconsin state representative, Frank Lasee, will be
    introducing legislation to allow teachers or principals to defend
    students with guns. GOA has already appeared on MSNBC and other
    media outlets to plug Lasee's bill.

    This summit is a great opportunity to invite groups like GOA to
    present the facts above and give concrete solutions for how to combat
    school violence in our nation's schools.

    ACTION: Because the subject of gun control is destined to arise at
    the summit this week, please urge President Bush and Education
    Secretary Margaret Spellings to invite gun groups like GOA and the
    NRA to present the real facts regarding gun ownership in this
    country. They need to see that arming teachers and principals is a
    solution that works and is supported by 85% of the American public.

    You can visit the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at
    http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm to send Bush and Spellings a
    pre-written e-mail message. You can also reach them at:

    PRESIDENT BUSH
    Comments: 202-456-1111
    Switchboard: 202-456-1414
    FAX: 202-456-2461
    E-Mail: president@whitehouse.gov

    SECRETARY SPELLINGS
    Phone: 202-401-3000
    FAX: 202-401-0596
    E-Mail: margaret.spellings@ed.gov


    Pre-written letter

    Dear

    I hope that you will strongly consider giving groups like Gun Owners
    of America a seat at the table when the school violence summit
    commences this week. Because the subject of gun control is destined
    to arise at this summit, gun groups will be able to present the real
    facts regarding gun ownership in this country -- facts such as the
    following:

    First, banning guns in school zones has failed. Criminals don't obey
    the laws and will always manage to get firearms. Putting a "gun free
    zone" sign on the front of a school only emboldens criminals who love
    disarmed victims.

    Second, the only school shootings that have been stopped prematurely
    were ended because law-abiding citizens had guns -- such as in Pearl
    Mississippi (1997) and at the Appalachian School of Law (2002), where
    faculty and responsible adults were able to bring their own defensive
    firearms to bear.

    Third, at least one legislator has already stepped forward to allow
    teachers and principals to use guns in self-defense. This is an idea
    that Americans support, as 85% of the American public find it
    appropriate for a principal or teacher to use "a gun at school to
    defend the lives of students" in stopping a school massacre (Research
    2000 Poll).

    I also hope you will do everything in your power to urge Congress to
    repeal the ineffective Gun Free School Zones law. Thank you.

    Sincerely,


    There Ya Go,

    Blues
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by BluesStringer
    Hope I'm not steppin' on your toes here pickenup
    NO problem.
    Post away Blues.
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