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Antigun Legislation in CA
dfletcher
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I'm usually in another section - hope I'm not out of line in doing this - but I want to ask any Californians on here to contact our Governer & ask him to veto AB2714 which bans mail delivery of ammo.
It's election year & hopefully we can persuade him to help. He did veto an ammo bill last year, so there is hope.
Here's the link: http://www.govmail.ca.gov
Takes only a second. Write down the bill # (AB2714) before you click.
Thanks,
It's election year & hopefully we can persuade him to help. He did veto an ammo bill last year, so there is hope.
Here's the link: http://www.govmail.ca.gov
Takes only a second. Write down the bill # (AB2714) before you click.
Thanks,
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Classic example of contradictory and illogical Liberal thought. Thank you Kalifornia for lighting the fuse to this ramshackle bomb we call a Republic.
I hope Nevada doesn't fall victim to the Cal plague. I was at the Reno gun show a few weeks ago & at least gun rights seemed well protected. I enjoyed smoking a few cigars at the Hilton & such & hope that doesn't change.
I am not content to live under the tyranny we presently live under. Therefore I will not attempt to block ANY gun laws presented by the Socialists and Fascists presently enjoying power in the United States of America.
The rest of you need to be shocked aware of what the Second Amendment means...and much more draconian gun laws are the answer.
Since any overt action will result in terribly swift retribution by those in power..that leaves total abstinance the answer for those of us unwilling to pretend we live in a free country.
No giving to gun lobbies "Fighting for the Second Amendment"..most of those groups wouldn't recogize the Second if it bit them.
No begging politicians on my knees to 'please recognize the Constitution'...
No writing the papers to present facts that they know...and fear..gun rights being a an inpediment to total power...
No....passive resistance is far better then fighting to maintain the status quo...the status quo being repugnant to any thinking freedom loving individual.
Not out of line at all, dfetcher. But as an ex-Kalifornian, I must say you are fighting a losing battle. Now the noxious plague of Liberalism is spilling over the Sierras into my new home state, Nevada. This November we get the "pleasure" of voting for such insane Liberal policies as marijuana legalization and banning all smoking in public places (including bars and casinos).
Classic example of contradictory and illogical Liberal thought. Thank you Kalifornia for lighting the fuse to this ramshackle bomb we call a Republic.
If "The Boys" were still running Vegas instead of fat-azzed clueless corporations, neither of these proposals would be on the ballot.[:D] Men would be in suits and ties, women all dressed up and absolutely NO KIDS anywhere near a casino. [^]
Now, with all of the whoop-dee-do, Las Vegas can be dubbed as a very expensive Disneyland for folks who don't mind overpaying for virtually everything and losing even more.[:(]
Here in Northern Nevada, the Conservatives are still in control, for now. Reno is moving more and more to the left as the Kalifornians continue to invade. When I came here two years ago I embraced the Nevada "lifestyle". I had no problem at all living a half mile from a casino, 5 miles from a brothel, being asked "Smoking or Non-Smoking" at a restaurant, or being able to buy a bottle of whisky at 5am. But more and more Kalifornians are NOT leaving their politics at the border. They want to import their Bay Area lifestyle for cheaper housing.
I see it getting worse every day. Not sure what to do except hope there is a place for me in Idaho or Wyoming. But even they will fall eventually. I agree with Highball, it is going to require a drastic wake-up call for this country to return to the roots that were laid by our Founders.
-Wolf
IMO, it goes way beyond Liberal and Conservative.
I perceive that it's a unique laziness concerning social, moral and civic responsibility brought about by too much of a good thing for too many people who simply do not or cannot intellectually appreciate what having it means.
Living a particular lifestyle precludes any buy-in or participation in improving the processes.
If I can get government to provide me with the happiness I require through legislation, then I get what I want or need at no appreciable cost to me - and, too bad for the rest.
As an example, for the individual who expects and demands that government regulate their continued happiness and that the police protect him or her from the ills of society, the 2nd Amendment is obsolete and pretty much a non-issue.
quote:Nowhere near as cynical as some who frequent these boards
Studying Slow Hands posts closely, you will discover..GASP..a 'cynic' in the making...if objectively looking at the problems and coming up with a solution is 'cynical'...unlike those that persist in re-discovering over and over and over that politicians and government people are in it for personal glory and power...
The Rights of the Citizen be dammed, in the process....
You cannot POSSIBLY grasp exactly how posititve and hopeful I really am in America and her people....
AFTER the rotten corrupt sleezebags are driven out of power and out of the business world...and the heavy boot of tyranny is lifted off the necks of decent people.
The antis may not know how vital gun ownership is, but if we always use strong proof of the dangers of gun kontrol, such as that in "Innocents Betrayed", we may be ok. After all, this is truth, and it can stand on its own.
One can get such twaddle anywhere..I prefer plain talk..calling a spade a spade.
I do NOT believe that America is doomed...YET. I believe that there is enough decent people...YET...to stop the Socialists and Fascists from their ultimate goal...to totally subvert America.
I believe that the ONLY way to alert such people..is to plainly state exactly what is being done...and planned by the Elites.
Were I in a hopeless state..convinced that the Elites have won..you would not hear one more peep from me. Part of my belief structure is that just ONE person needs to read something I say...and perhaps that ONE person will, at some future time..turn the tide of some unnamed battle...because he/she actually THOUGHT about it...and used it as a springboard to look critically at and grow stronger then the corrupt slobs that govern us today.
Part of my belief structure is that just ONE person needs to read something I say...and perhaps that ONE person will, at some future time..turn the tide of some unnamed battle...because he/she actually THOUGHT about it...and used it as a springboard to look critically at and grow stronger then the corrupt slobs that govern us today.
Yup, and you KNOW that has happened with a few people right here. Some of those that were not afraid to step out of the narrow path they were stuck in, who were not afraid to THINK for themselves. [:D][:D]
Your words are being heard, keep it up.
(like I even needed to say that) [;)]
Even if your words do.....madden the masses. [:0]
These words are being prostituted by a 10th rate radio jockey today...meaning.."You and I support george bush in his madness"......
However..the last two gentlemen posting are actually 'Great Americans"...decent men able to cut thru the bull-snit and understand reality.
Men that I am and would be proud to stand beside when the Elites finally cross the line of no return.
Not out of line at all, dfetcher. But as an ex-Kalifornian, I must say you are fighting a losing battle. Now the noxious plague of Liberalism is spilling over the Sierras into my new home state, Nevada. This November we get the "pleasure" of voting for such insane Liberal policies as marijuana legalization and banning all smoking in public places (including bars and casinos).
Classic example of contradictory and illogical Liberal thought. Thank you Kalifornia for lighting the fuse to this ramshackle bomb we call a Republic.
Read "Welcome to Georgia"
Dear Governor, AB2714 only restricts the freedom of law-abiding citizens. There is nothing dangerous or despicable about shipping ammunition through the mail. Thankyou XXXXX
You're too late. The Governor vetoed the bill almost a month ago.
Not out of line at all, dfetcher. But as an ex-Kalifornian, I must say you are fighting a losing battle. Now the noxious plague of Liberalism is spilling over the Sierras into my new home state, Nevada. This November we get the "pleasure" of voting for such insane Liberal policies as marijuana legalization and banning all smoking in public places (including bars and casinos).
What's wrong with marijuana legalization? It is a natural substance that is not physically-addictive and is far less harmful to your health than alcohol and tobacco (which are perfectly legal). Where is the logic in banning it?
You can never go wrong by expanding freedoms, it's laws that restrict freedoms that must be opposed.
http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/issues/november-ballot-initiatives/prop-89-california-clean-money-initiative
If it passes it means anyone who can get 750 people to pony up $5 each can get their name on the ballot for election to the assembly, if you make it 25,000 you can run for Governor!!!.
Just imagine Boxer and Feinstein having some independant pro gunners run against them at the next election.
You can never go wrong by expanding freedoms, it's laws that restrict freedoms that must be opposed.
My point was that we are being presented with contradictory philosophies on our ballot... Marijuana Legalization vs. Tobacco CRIMINALIZATION! These are the same illogical contradictions I saw while living in Kalifornia. Light up a joint and everyone cheers, but light a cigar and you may as well be a baby killer.
As for the marijuana issue itself, I will be voting NO (keeping it illegal). All of this dope legislation comes from two angles... 1. the pot-heads that want to get high and make money selling dope to their friends, and 2. The drug and tobacco companies that are salivating at the opportunity to legally sell marijuana cigarettes to a whole new market. After all, tobacco has become EVIL, yet marijuana grown in greenhouses or basements using sun lamps and hydroponics is some how "natural" and homeopathic. The pro-dopers would make you think it was so natural that your great-grandmother was smoking a joint while giving birth to your grandfather.
Frankly, I could care less about who wants to waste their life on smoking dope, but I happen to be paying for the WELFARE that the potheads are buying their dope with, and the MEDICARE they are using to treat their ASTHMA and DIABETES from being so lazy and obese. And no doubt I will be paying for their CANCER TREATMENT in a few years, because the dopers are stupid enough to believe that smoking 10 joints a day is actually HEALTHY for them and nothing like smoking a PACK OF CIGARETTES each day. So when welfare and Medicare are abolished THEN I may consider voting to make pot legal.
-Wolf