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With the new Gustapo in power guns will double in price....well, I mean the only guns left that are legal to sell....BB guns 
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now if you will excuse me I have a few thousand rounds to load for display purposes only, of course.
Billy-Bobs old boy George Stefanapolis recently said anyone running on an anti gun platform was committing political suicide. While the * have power please consider most that are new are (Supposedly) pro gun conservative democrats.
It certainly would be in the interest of those wanting the Eli's back in power to hope the * try and do the gun control thing.
Have they learned their lesson? They are still the party of the *! Do the math!
Wulfmann
"Fools learn from their own mistakes. I learn from the mistakes of others"
Otto von Bismarck
He said he wished the politicians would enact more laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children (remember, this was in California). I was taken back when he said that. I replied, "MORE LAWS?" He then explained how it was way too easy to get a gun these days and began describing some TV expose he saw that showed underage kids buying guns at a gun show.
So I thought for a moment, and then began to describe to him the process of buying a handgun in California. He of course had no idea about a Form 4473, the insta-check, the special California license required for purchasing a handgun, the additional California forms and background check, the 10-day waiting period, the gun-lock requirement, etc. I also told him about the process of buying a gun at a gun show in California, how basically it is all the same except that the gun is either shipped to an FFL or held by an escrow agent for the 10-day waiting period. He had no idea what an FFL was. This was all news to him because he had never actually tried to buy a gun.
After I explained all this I asked whether he still thought it was "too easy" to buy a gun. He looked at me skeptically and said "Well, the criminals still get them somehow, so we need more regulation." I then asked him again if he still thought that people should own guns and he replied, "Of course, it is our RIGHT!"
He saw absolutely no contradiction in his views. He was completely content to vote for anti-gun politicians and legislation, yet believe he was a gun advocate. At that moment I realized that he probably represented the views of 75% of the American population.
My point is, most people in this country our not concerned with gun rights. They may say they are pro-gun, but maybe they are a little more pro-gay, pro-abortion, or whatever. So when they see a Pelosi, or Kennedy, or Feinstien, or Schumer, or Boxer on the ballot, they don't even really care that these people are going to exhaustively attempt to strip away their gun rights. One day all the gun shops will be closed and these people will not even notice, but they will still think that their right to bear arms is secure.
In California, I used to work with a guy who was a Democrat, but claimed he was pro-gun. He otherwise seemed like an okay guy, so one day I asked him about his opinions. He told me that he didn't have any personal interest in guns, but he thought people should still be allowed to own them. Then he qualified that by saying that he didn't think that criminals and kids should be able to buy guns, but otherwise it seemed okay. We pretty much agreed up to this point, but then the conversation took a turn...
He said he wished the politicians would enact more laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children (remember, this was in California). I was taken back when he said that. I replied, "MORE LAWS?" He then explained how it was way too easy to get a gun these days and began describing some TV expose he saw that showed underage kids buying guns at a gun show.
So I thought for a moment, and then began to describe to him the process of buying a handgun in California. He of course had no idea about a Form 4473, the insta-check, the special California license required for purchasing a handgun, the additional California forms and background check, the 10-day waiting period, the gun-lock requirement, etc. I also told him about the process of buying a gun at a gun show in California, how basically it is all the same except that the gun is either shipped to an FFL or held by an escrow agent for the 10-day waiting period. He had no idea what an FFL was. This was all news to him because he had never actually tried to buy a gun.
After I explained all this I asked whether he still thought it was "too easy" to buy a gun. He looked at me skeptically and said "Well, the criminals still get them somehow, so we need more regulation." I then asked him again if he still thought that people should own guns and he replied, "Of course, it is our RIGHT!"
He saw absolutely no contradiction in his views. He was completely content to vote for anti-gun politicians and legislation, yet believe he was a gun advocate. At that moment I realized that he probably represented the views of 75% of the American population.
My point is, most people in this country our not concerned with gun rights. They may say they are pro-gun, but maybe they are a little more pro-gay, pro-abortion, or whatever. So when they see a Pelosi, or Kennedy, or Feinstien, or Schumer, or Boxer on the ballot, they don't even really care that these people are going to exhaustively attempt to strip away their gun rights. One day all the gun shops will be closed and these people will not even notice, but they will still think that their right to bear arms is secure.
Most liberals are anti-gun. Most liberals will choose a course of action (new laws, rules, restrictions,etc.) if that choice makes them feel good about themselves or the situation. They will make such choices regardless of whether or not any good or actual progress or improvement comes from that new choice, law, rule or restriction.
Most conservatives are pro-gun. Most conservatives only favor a proposed course of action, (new law, rule, restrictions, etc.) only if that action can be demonstrated to clearly be likely to bring about an improvement in the situation.
From the above you can see how a liberal can be in favor of gun ownership but, since criminals will always be able to get around gun laws and thereby illegally possess guns, then that liberal will still favor more and more gun laws. In fact, if liberals freely had their way, even the ones in favor of gun ownership, they would pass more and more laws, in a futile effort to finally control the criminals, that no lawful citizen would be able to own guns. While passing all these laws would not control the criminals nor prevent the criminals from possessing guns (only the lawful citizens would be effected) the liberals would still favor and support such laws because they would at least feel good in that they would be able to think they were somehow, someway, making America safer.
Such is the way liberals think. Such is the difference in thinking between most liberals and most conservatives.
JMHO
....at least up to the point where you and I come into play (and anyone else, for that matter).
I think liberals are pro-gun, fox....
....at least up to the point where you and I come into play (and anyone else, for that matter).
If you mean liberals are in favor of any and all police and military having any and all the guns they want, but not for any common cititzens to have any guns at all, I would agree with you.
I think liberals are more horrified at the thought of common citizens having guns that they are at the thought of violent criminals having guns. I know that all the new gun laws proposed won't/can't effect the already law-ignoring criminals.
quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
I think liberals are pro-gun, fox....
....at least up to the point where you and I come into play (and anyone else, for that matter).
If you mean liberals are in favor of any and all police and military having any and all the guns they want, but not for any common cititzens to have any guns at all, I would agree with you.
I think liberals are more horrified at the thought of common citizens having guns that they are at the thought of violent criminals having guns. I know that all the new gun laws proposed won't/can't effect the already law-ignoring criminals.
Actually, I meant that they theyselves can have them, but you can't.
Case in point; Dianne Swinestein.
2nd Case in point, Rosie O *.
3rd case in point, Sarah Brady.
quote:Originally posted by tr fox
quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
I think liberals are pro-gun, fox....
....at least up to the point where you and I come into play (and anyone else, for that matter).
If you mean liberals are in favor of any and all police and military having any and all the guns they want, but not for any common cititzens to have any guns at all, I would agree with you.
I think liberals are more horrified at the thought of common citizens having guns that they are at the thought of violent criminals having guns. I know that all the new gun laws proposed won't/can't effect the already law-ignoring criminals.
Actually, I meant that they theyselves can have them, but you can't.
Case in point; Dianne Swinestein.
2nd Case in point, Rosie O *.
3rd case in point, Sarah Brady.
Ah, yes. But to try and make that hypocritical behavior seem honest behavior here is the difference at least in the case of #2 & #3.
You and I want to be able to walk around with our gun. But #2 & #3 get "around" that by them walking around with a bodyguard and the bodyguard carries the gun. Kinda an extension of the liberal anti-gun midset that guns are fine in the hands of a paid professional but you common citizens simply cannot be trusted.
In the case of #1, I don't know for sure, but I believe she did obtain her own CCW license (of course probably while getting special treatment) but she probably has her own armed bodyguards also.
What about fat * Senator Ted Kennedy? I have read mainstream newspaper reports that his numerous security guards carry fully automatic firearms.
quote:Originally posted by WoundedWolf
In California, I used to work with a guy who was a Democrat, but claimed he was pro-gun. He otherwise seemed like an okay guy, so one day I asked him about his opinions. He told me that he didn't have any personal interest in guns, but he thought people should still be allowed to own them. Then he qualified that by saying that he didn't think that criminals and kids should be able to buy guns, but otherwise it seemed okay. We pretty much agreed up to this point, but then the conversation took a turn...
He said he wished the politicians would enact more laws to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and children (remember, this was in California). I was taken back when he said that. I replied, "MORE LAWS?" He then explained how it was way too easy to get a gun these days and began describing some TV expose he saw that showed underage kids buying guns at a gun show.
So I thought for a moment, and then began to describe to him the process of buying a handgun in California. He of course had no idea about a Form 4473, the insta-check, the special California license required for purchasing a handgun, the additional California forms and background check, the 10-day waiting period, the gun-lock requirement, etc. I also told him about the process of buying a gun at a gun show in California, how basically it is all the same except that the gun is either shipped to an FFL or held by an escrow agent for the 10-day waiting period. He had no idea what an FFL was. This was all news to him because he had never actually tried to buy a gun.
After I explained all this I asked whether he still thought it was "too easy" to buy a gun. He looked at me skeptically and said "Well, the criminals still get them somehow, so we need more regulation." I then asked him again if he still thought that people should own guns and he replied, "Of course, it is our RIGHT!"
He saw absolutely no contradiction in his views. He was completely content to vote for anti-gun politicians and legislation, yet believe he was a gun advocate. At that moment I realized that he probably represented the views of 75% of the American population.
My point is, most people in this country our not concerned with gun rights. They may say they are pro-gun, but maybe they are a little more pro-gay, pro-abortion, or whatever. So when they see a Pelosi, or Kennedy, or Feinstien, or Schumer, or Boxer on the ballot, they don't even really care that these people are going to exhaustively attempt to strip away their gun rights. One day all the gun shops will be closed and these people will not even notice, but they will still think that their right to bear arms is secure.
Most liberals are anti-gun. Most liberals will choose a course of action (new laws, rules, restrictions,etc.) if that choice makes them feel good about themselves or the situation. They will make such choices regardless of whether or not any good or actual progress or improvement comes from that new choice, law, rule or restriction.
Most conservatives are pro-gun. Most conservatives only favor a proposed course of action, (new law, rule, restrictions, etc.) only if that action can be demonstrated to clearly be likely to bring about an improvement in the situation.
From the above you can see how a liberal can be in favor of gun ownership but, since criminals will always be able to get around gun laws and thereby illegally possess guns, then that liberal will still favor more and more gun laws. In fact, if liberals freely had their way, even the ones in favor of gun ownership, they would pass more and more laws, in a futile effort to finally control the criminals, that no lawful citizen would be able to own guns. While passing all these laws would not control the criminals nor prevent the criminals from possessing guns (only the lawful citizens would be effected) the liberals would still favor and support such laws because they would at least feel good in that they would be able to think they were somehow, someway, making America safer.
Such is the way liberals think. Such is the difference in thinking between most liberals and most conservatives.
JMHO
Good post, you are both right, this is how they think with emotion. No rational thought involved. No friggin bit of "Common Sense!"
This kind of thinking is how Chavez will turn his country into a socialist dictatorship! You can't fix stupid and Americans are heading down the road to "stupid!"[:(]
But first I asked him why anybody would need to go hunting. After all, if all "non-hunting" firearms were so dangerous, then why should we accept hunting as an excuse to own a firearm? I don't question anybody's right to hunt, own a hunting rifle, full auto AK, or rocket launcher. I'll stick up for his rights, but I can't be sure he'll stick up for mine.