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outdoor Life and Remington are Supporting Anti-Gun

argaliargali Member Posts: 4 ✭✭
http://outdoorlife.blogs.com/zumbo/2007/02/assault_rifles_.html

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If the phone doesn't answer, fax your butt off

If you Care about your rights as a Gun owner, I would comment on this Idiots Page supported by
Remington and Outddor Life. I grew up reading Outdoor Life and I own the same Remington .22 Semi-Automatic
that my Dad gave to me when I was 8 years old. I guess my ole' .22 is Now a Terrorist Weapon in the eyes of the Original Maker of it REMINGTON.

Don't let Elmer Fudd's like this get away with their Anti-Gun crap. He thinks that No one should use or Own an AR-15 because he says that semi's that don't look sporterized with a Wood Stock are Terrorist weapons. What a Joke. So is How Many Days he will have left at Both Remington and Outdoor Life. Boycott all 3 if you want to make a Statement against Other gun people trying to take your Gun Rights away. We are all in this together. A Gun is a Gun and we all need to support Both Hunting and Tactical Rifles for whatever lawful use. Reading this post of Mr. Dumbo's makes you realize that the fight isn't always with the Sarah Brady Crowd, but sometimes even a fellow Gun Owner doesn't realize what he is saying, by thinking that The ANTI-'s will somehow still Allow His Guns and Not Others. Get him fired, and then maybe we can form some sort of respect for Remington and Outdoor Life.

It's up to you. Not Mr.Zumbo or should I say Dumbo.

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  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,846 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by argali
    the fight isn't always with the Sarah Brady Crowd,
    but sometimes even a fellow Gun Owner
    There lies the truth of the matter. [:(!][:(!][:(!]
  • tr foxtr fox Member Posts: 13,856
    edited November -1
    It is almost a mental illness that the anti-gun crowd are willing to ban a particular type of firearm simply because of the way it looks and the way it mechanically functions. If one carried that logic into other areas, we then could start banning Humvees because they look like the military Humvees. We could ban good, peaceful men from our neighborhoods if they have numerous tatoos because they look like criminal ex-cons. We could ban shabby men speaking with an accent because they look like illegal aliens. We could ban phony Halloween party military uniforms because they look like real military uniforms. We could ban a little, underpowerd Ford Escort that had a wlld paint job and loud pipes because it looks like a powerful race car. And on and on and on.

    Hey, has anyone here got a post office box address that we could send a letter protesting this crap to? I'm thinking we could all write a letter protesting this and all send it to one mail box along with a buck or two for postage, and then the mail box holder could put all the letters in one envelope and mail it to the idiots that should be contacted. With such a show of force, we just might get some attention and change some minds.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's Over. He's Gone, Fired, Ashamed.....

    "Outdoor Life, a magazine that I worked for full-time as Hunting Editor for almost 30 years, fired me yesterday. My TV show was cancelled yesterday. Many of my sponsors have issued statements on their website to sever all relationships."

    Article on Free Republic from Jim Zumbo

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789308/posts

    OR Go To:
    TedNugent.com
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Apparently, to Mr. Zumbo, an AR-15 may be an acceptable gun if used for hunting. Hate to see his stance on an M-16 that can't be used for hunting.

    Like I said before, a lot of the hunters support unconstitutional laws that regulate firearms - firearms that they don't own.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    He says He'll own an AR before the weekend. He wants to try one on for size I guess. Maybe make a fortune selling it when it falls victim to HR1022

    His apology only reflects his elitist attitude. What is even worse, the apologists. It's amazing how many people are apologizing TO ZUMBO because he was Friggin STUPID.

    He still does not get it, 50 years in the business, Life Time Member of the NRA and the blast he took from Pro-2A public, he's gonna try "Hunting" with his AR. I think, that he STILL thinks, this is about hunting.
  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    His apology is "AR's are fine guns because you can hunt with them."

    Who gives a damn. The right to hunt is not enshrined in the 2nd Amendment. That is implied in the 9th Amendment.

    Therefore, apology not accepted. You are my enemy, Mr. Zumbo.
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
    His apology is "AR's are fine guns because you can hunt with them."

    Who gives a damn. The right to hunt is not enshrined in the 2nd Amendment. That is implied in the 9th Amendment.

    Therefore, apology not accepted. You are my enemy, Mr. Zumbo.


    I can't understand or support people who say that the 2nd amendment is about hunting. Just ask anybody that was in a concentration camp if they would still be there if they had an automatic weapon. Just ask them if they wanted a gun that shouldn't be used to hunt with.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Everyone should read this article. Phil Elmore really got it together here. BEST overall PRO-2A response/rebuttal to the Zumbo "Thing" I've seen. Any and all Pro-2A defenders will love it. The rest may just get a rude awakening.

    http://www.themartialist.com:80/index.htm
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Again, didn't the Zumbo thing teach us anything? This wasn't an ORGANIZED UPRISNG. It spread all over the internet because IT was an affront on the 2nd Amendment, an attack on Veterans and Active Duty Military, and suggested that Weapons (based on their looks) should be banned, thereby SUPPORTING the anti's agenda. For THAT reason, the "Pro-2A" World decided that an assault by "one of their own" was BEYOND acceptable. They/We REVOLTED. It's called ACTIVISM. (Sorry: tr fox).

    Why haven't we used this tactic for ALL Things Anti 2A, or, are we just waiting to be betrayed by another "one of our own" again? What does it take?

    Sorry highball, we won this one without firing a shot. A tactic borrowed form the anti's.

    Our Rights, under the 2nd Amendment, will NEVER be acknowledged without a fight. Personaally, I find it hard to revere in someone else's misery. However, this in my opinion, is the BEST thing that has happened to support the 2nd Amendment I've EVER seen. Sure, it gave the anti's some ammo. However, simply put, this controversy UNITED gun owners, put some paste in their [email protected]@, and brought them out en-mass to SUPPORT AND DEFEND 2nd Amendment. I think this was a "GOOD THING!".
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I just realized I may have to explain this:
    "put some paste in their [email protected]@,"

    It Is So Their GUTS Don't Fall Out!.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is He Next?
    Yet, as Jim Shepherd of the Internet-based The Shooting Wire, noted, "Zumbo has gone from bankable brand name to leper status in record time."

    That's really sad.

    As I wrote to an outdoor writer friend of mine as this was blowing up, "You know, that could have been me. I could have written much the same as Zumbo did. I wouldn't have worded it that way. I wouldn't have called for a ban on those guns. But I know exactly what Jim was getting at in what he wrote."

    For one thing, Zumbo writes from the standpoint of being a lifelong hunter - not necessarily a target shooter. There are differences between hunting and both competitive target shooting or simply target shooting for fun.

    Choosing the ideal hunting rifle is far, far different from choosing the ideal target rifle. You look for different things.

    You don't carry many heavy barreled target rifles up mountain slopes - not more than once, anyway. Very few big game rifles in the West are semi-automatics - most are bolt-actions which are considered more accurate. I don't like light rifles because they're too hard to hold steady, or heavy magnum calibers because they kick too much. I do like 3x9 variable scopes.

    In hunting, everyone has preferences that are all built on picking the best rifle for the task and the conditions they expect to encounter.

    That being said, in Montana, one of the quirks of our big game hunting regulations is that we have no rifle caliber or bullet restrictions for taking big game animals, except for bison.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:Sorry highball, we won this one without firing a shot. A tactic borrowed form the anti's.

    I allude to the worst case scnerio..ALWAYS...so you guys that still believe in the system will get off your dead aszs and DO SOMETHING..guys like me have been fightng this fight for 40 years...longer.

    We tried the old ways...the 'write letters'..to editors/politicians/judges...the 'vote the rascals out'...and gun owners will NOT listen. The continue to vote for the bushs', the McCains....

    Now you new guys will be treated to "This damn SURE WILL happen...unless this juggernaut is stopped dead in its tracks.

    You guys done GOOD..this last weekend..but there is STILL the bleeding
    hearts feeling 'sorry' for that anti-gun bag of snit...a traitor to the Second Amendment.
  • River RatRiver Rat Member Posts: 9,022
    edited November -1
    Wagon Wheel, I agree that THIS is how we protect the Second Amendment. No Compromise! I'm glad you are on our side.
  • dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Could somebody please tell me how this Relates to Remington? I understand it relates to Outdoor Life, but how is Remington responsible for this wolf in sheeple's clothing?
  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
    I just realized I may have to explain this:
    "put some paste in their [email protected]@,"

    It Is So Their GUTS Don't Fall Out!.


    Damn it, WW. You have to warn me when you're gonna say stuff like this. That's the second time I lost my water through my nose!!![:p]
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,846 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by dsmith
    Could somebody please tell me how this Relates to Remington? I understand it relates to Outdoor Life, but how is Remington responsible for this wolf in sheeple's clothing?
    Remington WAS a sponsor for Zumbo.

    http://www.remington.com/library/press/2007/2007-1.asp
  • SUBMARINERSUBMARINER Member Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This is a reinstitution of the Clinton gun ban with added features
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