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Why I love Texas Congressman Ron Paul

flat8flat8 Member Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭
And why I'm staying home if anybody else is nominated (which, I know is a given).

Read on . . .


Security and Liberty by Ron Paul

April 23, 2007

The senseless and horrific killings last week on the campus of Virginia Tech University reinforced an uneasy feeling many Americans experienced after September 11th: namely, that government cannot protect us. No matter how many laws we pass, no matter how many police or federal agents we put on the streets, a determined individual or group still can cause great harm. Perhaps the only good that can come from these terrible killings is a reinforced understanding that we as individuals are responsible for our safety and the safety of our families.

Although Virginia does allow individuals to carry concealed weapons if they first obtain a permit, college campuses within the state are specifically exempted. Virginia Tech, like all Virginia colleges, is therefore a gun-free zone, at least for private individuals. And as we witnessed, it didn't matter how many guns the police had. Only private individuals on the scene could have prevented or lessened this tragedy. Prohibiting guns on campus made the Virginia Tech students less safe, not more.

The Virginia Tech tragedy may not lead directly to more gun control, but I fear it will lead to more people control. Thanks to our media and many government officials, Americans have become conditioned to view the state as our protector and the solution to every problem. Whenever something terrible happens, especially when it becomes a national news story, people reflexively demand that government do something. This impulse almost always leads to bad laws and the loss of liberty. It is completely at odds with the best American traditions of self-reliance and rugged individualism.

Do we really want to live in a world of police checkpoints, surveillance cameras, and metal detectors? Do we really believe government can provide total security? Do we want to involuntarily commit every disaffected, disturbed, or alienated person who fantasizes about violence? Or can we accept that liberty is more important than the illusion of state-provided security?

I fear that Congress will use this terrible event to push for more government mandated mental health programs. The therapeutic nanny state only encourages individuals to view themselves as victims, and reject personal responsibility for their actions. Certainly there are legitimate organic mental illnesses, but it is the role of doctors and families, not the government, to diagnose and treat such illnesses.

Freedom is not defined by safety. Freedom is defined by the ability of citizens to live without government interference. Government cannot create a world without risks, nor would we really wish to live in such a fictional place. Only a totalitarian society would even claim absolute safety as a worthy ideal, because it would require total state control over its citizens' lives. Liberty has meaning only if we still believe in it when terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons.

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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
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    Well, agreement!! We KNOW Ron Paul isn't taking his marching orders from the likes of George Soros. It's time for us to elect an "Elder Statesman" and REJECT these snot nosed, 60's radicals and give them time to grow-up, wise-up and dry behind the ears!!!!!!!!

    More Observations From/By Ron Paul:

    Ron Paul on Homeland Security:
    http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Homeland_Security.htm
    Source: SANE website 03n-SANE on Dec 31, 2003

    It Can't Happen Here:
    By Ron Paul - December 21, 2004
    Although his time line is off, observe.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul225.html

    Statement for the Government Reform Committee Hearing on National ID Card Proposal:
    By Ron Paul - November 16, 2001
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/paul5.html

    Here is a No-Nonsense Speech That Should Be Read in Its entirety. Liberals won't agree with it, but that's what's wrong with the system now, isn't it?
    Searching for a New Direction:
    HON. RON PAUL OF TEXAS
    January 18, 2006
    http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2006/cr011806.htm

    Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul?
    By Chuck Baldwin - March 02, 2007

    He currently has a 100% rating from The Conservative Index, which is probably the most relevant and accurate reflection of a congressman's true conservative record out there.

    Ron Paul has been the most outspoken defender of constitutional government in the entire congress-bar none.

    Rather than letting themselves be used as dupes by the GOP machine, if America's evangelicals would determine to stand on principle by supporting only those candidates who most courageously champion our principles (regardless of their popularity, or lack thereof, with the Republican hierarchy), they might actually be able to bring real change to American politics.

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23154.html

    Ron Paul:
    The libertarian-minded Texan is one of the most outspoken defenders of gun rights in Congress. He sees calls for restriction on guns as an affront to freedom.
    More Guns Will Deter Shootings: April 17,2007
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3556.html

    Dr. Ron Paul:
    Ron Paul 2008
    2008 Homepage - http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
    Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign Committee - http://ronpaul.org/

    And, FOR THE YOUNGER CROWD:
    MySpace Profile - Ron Paul 2008,
    http://www.myspace.com/ronpaul2008
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    sig232sig232 Member Posts: 8,018
    edited November -1
    Yes, he is a man with an unusual amount of "Common Sense!"[:)]
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    pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,844 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
    Ron Paul has been the most outspoken defender of constitutional government in the entire congress-bar none.
    AGREED.
    Ron Paul for prez.
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    dsmithdsmith Member Posts: 902 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel
    Ron Paul has been the most outspoken defender of constitutional government in the entire congress-bar none.
    AGREED.
    Ron Paul for prez.


    Since I am registered as a Republican, I will vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

    It's sad though. Paul and Brownback are the only 2 candidates even remotely pro-gun, and nobody is talking about them.
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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
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    Dsmith:

    After I made the above post I E-mailed Bill O'Reilly with a challenge (And the same Information) to have Ron Paul on his show to counter-balance the pathetic dribble he and Schumer put out last night. After the show last night I sent him the real truth about H.R. 297. I'm waiting to see what happens tonight. Even though I'm not one of his premium members he doesn't completely ignore me. I see something in a day or two normally. I just figure he has to do his own research before he commits to a story. I hope he takes the challenge.
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    WoundedWolfWoundedWolf Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Wagon Wheel, I listened to O'Reilly for the first time in months last week. He DENIED that there was any actual gun confiscation in New Orleans! I was going to send him the ABC News video from GOA (http://www.gunowners.org/abcnews.mpg), but decided not to go to the effort as I figured he would just ignore it.

    He is actually very liberal in many of his opinions. I think if pressed, he would admit his interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is as a "collective" right, as the Libs claim.

    I cannot listen to him anymore as he makes my blood boil.
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    RockatanskyRockatansky Member Posts: 11,175
    edited November -1
    o'reilly has turned to the dark side, he's a gonner. i heard him propagating banning all of the guns and so on. haven't listened to him after that, so i don't know anymore what kind of other blasphemy he's saying now, i bet he'll turn to algore's side in a matter of time.
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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
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    Wounded Wolf:

    No problem. As they say "No Balls, No Blue Chips" or "You'll never get anything you don't ask for". Unless he sees it, and he must not have, he'll never know. SO, according to some, I just wasted MY time and sent it to him anyway. Thank you for bringing it up.

    Bill,

    I must have somehow missed the show my friend is referring to here. If what he says is true, you do need to see this. So I'm sending it.

    "I listened to O'Reilly for the first time in months last week. He DENIED that there was any actual gun confiscation in New Orleans! I was going to send him the ABC News video from GOA (http://www.gunowners.org/abcnews.mpg), but decided not to go to the effort as I figured he would just ignore it.

    He is actually very liberal in many of his opinions. I think if pressed, he would admit his interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is as a "collective" right, as the Libs claim.

    I cannot listen to him anymore as he makes my blood boil."

    I do agree with him that you are getting too liberal and have a hard time staying with you myself. Must be your charming personality.
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    WoundedWolfWoundedWolf Member Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Thanks for picking up my slack, wagon. I look forward to Bills reply.
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    n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Well there is allways Glenn Beck, which seems to be a HONEST voice of constitutionalism. At least he will admit things the other eliteists won't.
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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
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    "Fair and Balanced" just got new meaning. Few things leave me speechless but this does. Apparently, and I've always believed this, (I just never included Fox in the bunch) the MSM wants to "Dictate" exposure and "Fix" the primary Election.

    Seven Out of 10 GOP 2008 Hopefuls Could Be Excluded from TV Debate:

    http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200705/POL20070502b.html
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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ya jus gotta luv `im!!! The only Candidate I know of that will actually say the things we DON"T want to hear. The only Candidate that displays the courage of his convictions without fear of political repercussion. The only Candidate with any level of credibility in my/the honesty column.

    Ron Paul Builds Campaign on the Web:-- 05/18/2007
    If unscientific online polls were a determining factor, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas would easily be a top tier candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination. But they aren't -- and he isn't...
    http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200705/POL20070518a.html

    Ron Paul 2008 Website Homepage:
    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/
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    Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,897 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    We all knew he didn't have a chance anyway,.......but regardless of how folks here feel, he blew it totally in the debate, by making that comment about 9/11 being our fault! Now people that know nothing about him, think he is just a "crackpot, conspiracy theorist".
    Any of us here, have about as much chance of becoming President.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
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    Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Marc1301:

    This would be very entertaining but we all know Giuliani lacks the cahunas' to accept the challenge.

    Paul Offers Giuliani Foreign Policy 'Reading Assignment' -- 05/25/2007

    http://www.cnsnews.com:80/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200705/POL20070525a.html
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    sariwat1sariwat1 Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
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    I agree. If you want maximum security, there is always levenworth. Freedom and security are on opposite ends of the spectrum. To have freedom, there are risks and we are to live with those risk to preserve freedom. Its say the schools don't teach the really important things to the students. Financial literacy, History, quotes form founding fathers and presidents, and self defense.
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