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Could it BE ?

HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
I have tossed this 'allow the barbarians to swarm America' thing around in my mind till blood dribbles out of my eyes.

Nothing rational makes sense...and the 'leaders' of this country are too smart to believe the lies they are telling.

There is plenty of evidence out there (on talk radio every day) that there is nukes planted...ready to go.

I think that the barbarians are being encouraged to come over for the purpose of re-building America AFTER a major attack...and these barbarians have NO allegiance to the ideals of freedom...NONE.

They WILL take orders..they WILL NOT QUESTION any ORDER GIVEN.

I believe futher that they will be formed into 'security forces'..handed a rifle and told to kill 'that gringo over there'...and they will comply without question.

I believe that the Elites will form a 'more perfect Union'..ENTIRELY in THEIR image.

What think you ?

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  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,822 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Unfortunately,.......my thoughts, and yours, are beginning to converge!
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball.....I generally agree with you, but not this time
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    God help us if you are correct
    Abort Cuomo
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Rack;
    Ok..you don't agree. Now give me a reason.

    That little scnerio is a nightmare...even for me. I need a reason to file it in the round bin....

    Find a reason that fits the facts...that unlimited barbarians swarming into this country is the DEATH of this country, anyway...and the Elites know it...but at some point, Americans will dig their heels in and STOP IT...unless the above scnerio plays out.
  • Rack OpsRack Ops Member Posts: 18,593 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You're giving the "elites" too much credit....much like the Neo-Nazis give the Jews too much credit in their conspiracy theories.

    Immigrants aren't pouring into the country so the country can be rebuilt in a new image, they are pouring in because they drive down labor costs....

    The vast majority of the rich aren't interested in "power" anymore than most Americans are interested in "freedom". They want to make more money. Illegals give them a means to that end.

    Ann Coulter, love her or hate her, nailed it when she said illegals are America's new slave class. Educated people, myself included, aren't harmed by illegal immigration. I don't have to compete with Pablo for a job. In fact, life becomes easier because (thanks to Pablo) goods and services are cheaper. The ones who are hurt are the poor, working class........

    This isn't a conspiracy....its just the "haves" screwing the "have nots" as usual
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    We are not reassured.


    The 'Elites' I speak of are not your garden varity 'rich folks'..trying merely to get richer.

    The Elites I talk about give bush orders...and view the politicians as 'useful idiots'..fit only to do their bidding.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    All right, fellers...I depend upon you to drag me back into the 'sane' zone...and you are reading but no comment.

    What gives ? Entirely too far out there for everybody ?

    I will admit, upfront, trying to keep ahead of the grass..rain every thirty moments (I finish and look at the other side of the yard...and it is knee high again) is driving me 'round the bend...can't get to the garden...
    Just thank God it isn't 100 degrees, so silver lining, for sure...
  • Dangerous TDangerous T Member Posts: 119 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I am also inclined to agree with you. Think about this: how many of latinos are in the army getting military training? Crapload. They are getting their greencard that way too. I have been thinking really hard and really long about it.
    You see, there has been, for a long time, a talk about the way US Gommint does business: They blow up the cruiser "Maine" to get themself a support to get into Spanish War. They leak info to Germans that Luitasania is carrying weapons (which it did), it gets sunk and "outraged public" demands the entry into WW1. Having cracked japanese codes, and knowing well in advance about coming attack, US gets their two most modern ships out of Pearl Harbor, leaving there obsolete Battleships and Cruisers. Once again the "outraged cattle" howls for revenge and we enter WW2.
    We provoke an attack on our destroyer, and get involved in yet another war.
    We have the most powerful intelligence agencies, we have the most powerful air force, the most comprehensive defence system (NORAD). All the procedures are in place. When a small plane, gets lost in Florida, immediatly it gets an "escort" from 2 F-16s which come to check out what the plane is up to. Then "all of a sudden" 9/11 happens. Now, not only few months before that, Rotten Rudy gets USAF National Guard out of New York, but foreign countries WARN us about the coming attack. Yet, the attack catches us "totally by surprise".
    AND NOBODY GETS PUNISHED!!! Let me explain. When a german pilot landed his plane in Moscow (and nobody got killed), A LOT OF HEADS ROLLED. Bunch of generals who were in charge of Air Defence got "dishonorably discharged". Yet, when 3000 people died, NOBODY WAS HELD RESPONCIBLE. You see, every tragedy, every accident has a first name and surname. Nobody was held responsible. Most powerful intelligence agency just shrugged, most powerful airforce shook their head "not us". NORAD Said "What, we worry?"
    Very quickly, almost too quickly the police, FBI, and other organizations were given the powers nearly unheard of before in a democratic state. President was given unheard of powers. All while the sheeple bleated "here, daddy, have more powers, take our liberty, only protect us from the evel camel rider who somehow outsmarted every spy, every airforce and every air defence officer in USA."
    I do not believe in accidents. "When something happened, look for a rich white man". No, I do not believe that CIA & Co, who got lots of power and money on the blood of 9/11 victims made it happen. I believe with all my heart that they ALLOWED it to happen.
    Now, I firmly believe, that having their positions threatened by people who about had enough of their bullying, they will "let something else happen". Maybe a nuke, but I doubt it. I think that we will see another terrorist attack, before the next presidential election. GEorge Bush or some other republican will declare the "State of Emergency" and dissolve senate and congress. At this point, the constitution will be suspended as "we are at war". Considering that we are in war against an enemy which is NOT a solid entety. Such suspencion will be nearly permanent. Welcome to 1984.
    This will not bode well with the world powers. I think that China will be seen naturally as a counterbalance to USA, and many of the world countries, including European Union will Ally with China, to "contain" the USA. Interestingly enough, most people in the world, even in England and Germany, see US as a "rogue state that threatens the world peace". I dunno about you, but this scares the hell out of me.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball:

    I fear there is no "Safe Zone" to withdraw into. Everyday the news is worse. There has most definitely been a plan spawned and implemented to bring us down internally. Many years in the making, it has been shifted into high gear now. They are on the fast track, pulling the strings like puppet masters. I hope I'm wrong, but to be absolutely honest with you, I don't think it matters who is running for president in `08. I am now convinced that there WILL NOT be a '08 election. Our world is imploding around us. All the signs are pointing to another world war (I don't like our odds on this one) and final implementation of the "ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT" within 3-4 years or so.
  • Dangerous TDangerous T Member Posts: 119 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Well, the sad truth is every country has the government which they deserve and which in turn has its way with the people of the country in each and every way it wants.
    WE elect those scumbags. YOU, ME, EVERYONE elects them. By voting and by not voting.
    I doubt that we will have a one world government in a near future.
    I do, however, fully agree in a total breakdown of USA as we know it in a near future
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Hey, WWheel !! That would be "SANE Zone"...not 'safe' !!!! [:D]
    Did I want 'SAfe'..I wouldn't be posting on the net...for God and all the world to see.

    I gave up 'safe' many years ago...and to be honest...didn't expect to live this long.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball:

    Typo. There ain't no "Sane Zone" either. The Government is completely out of control and much more blatantly by the day!!! They still lie to deceive the uninformed and people are starting to wake up but I fear it's too late to stop them. They've been allowed to many inches!!!!
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Interesting ..... How is it I point to the MASSIVE corruption within our political system, call to charge of arms, and get pooed on. Now, with what your saying Highball, should the time be now, or in the aftermath?
    Do I belive your scenerio? Mostly yes. I can't say anything unsupportive. However, just goes to show what those IN POWER will do to keep it.
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Highball
    You ask for comments. I will give you mine weather you care what I think matters none to me. You are either smoking what is growing in your garden, or we all need to dig in - DEEP. Perhaps you have paranoia, or maybe vision. Just tuning into this forum recently has made me grow eyes in the back of my head. At first read, I thought you had lost your marbles, but after a few minutes of digestion, I gave consideration to the government screw over and feel anything is possible. Do I think it is possible - Yes. Do I think it will come to fruition - NO. We are a soft society with our air conditioning, microwave ovens, wall to wall carpet and T-bone steaks on the BBQ. But, deep down inside we are barbarians just like the freaks you speak of. If your dream mirage ever does develop into total chaos, we will rise up like our founding father did before us and rally to defend our freedom and country.

    I firmly believe when "it" happens, we will all know about it ahead of time and be somewhat prepared to defend. The question is - for how long ?
    Abort Cuomo
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Always...ALWAYS;
    I felt that 3% was enough to take America back.

    A friend today mentioned that 20-30 MILLION barbarians makes that figure entirely too small...and I feel the first stirrings of an angst I have not felt for 10 years..not enough of us.
    What was an impossible task now becomes nearly insurmountable....

    Would that I were smoking garden products....cabbage, radishes, onions and such don't seem to smoke well, tho...
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,822 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    3% will not be enough, after we get our new friends in here soon,........you are correct.
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    This was sent to me in an email. I can not verify if it is true, but it is disturbing to say the least !

    From the L.A. Times
    >
    >
    > 1. 40% of all workers in L.A. County ( L.A. County has 10.2 million
    >people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are
    >predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
    >
    > 2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal
    >aliens.
    >
    > 3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal
    >aliens
    >
    > 4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal
    >alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal,
    > whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
    >
    > 5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are
    >Mexican nationals here illegally.
    >
    > 6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living
    >in garages.
    >
    > 7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are
    >most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
    >
    > 8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
    >
    > 9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.
    >
    > 10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million
    >speak Spanish.
    > & nbsp;& nbsp; (There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County ).
    >
    > (All of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
    >
    >
    > Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are
    >on welfare.
    >
    >
    > Over 70% of the United States ' annual population growth (and over
    >90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration.
    >
    > 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
    Abort Cuomo
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Now now nyforester, you can't be slinging FACTS around like that. Someone MAY call us a buch of racist idiots.
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Bring on the fight !
    Abort Cuomo
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    More On The Numbers:

    Figures can trick your eyes. Take particular note that items 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8 reflect BILLIONS, not Millions of dollars -- and that item 4 exceeds one-third of a TRILLION dollars.

    Can you imagine how much it will cost taxpayers if we triple the number of Illegal's entering this country!!

    What's in a Billion?
    Granted................. this is from the U.S.!

    The next time you hear a politician use the word "billion" in a casual manner, think about whether you want the "politicians" spending your tax money.

    A billion is a difficult number to comprehend, but one advertising agency did a good job of putting that figure into some perspective in one of its releases.

    A. A billion seconds ago it was 1959.

    B. A billion minutes ago Jesus was alive.

    C. A billion hours ago our ancestors were living in the Stone Age.

    D. A billion days ago no-one walked on the earth on two feet.

    E. A billion dollars ago was only 8 hours and 20 minutes, at the rate our government is spending it.

    While this thought is still fresh in our brain, let's take a look at New Orleans. It's amazing what you can learn with some simple division . . .

    Louisiana Senator, Mary Landrieu (D), is presently asking the Congress for $250 BILLION to rebuild New Orleans. Interesting number, what does it mean?

    a. Well, if you are one of 484,674 residents of New Orleans (every man, woman, child), you each get $516,528.

    b. Or, if you have one of the 188,251 homes in New Orleans, your home gets $1,329,787.

    c. Or, if you are a family of four, your family gets $2,066,012.

    Washington, D.C. ... HELLO!!! Are all your calculators broken??

    This is too true to be very funny!!!

    Do you want the real numbers, or the numbers that congress throws at you?

    Up To Date... 05/22/07

    1). Illegal Immigrants in Country: 20,906,222

    2). Money Wired to Mexico Since Jan 2006: $30,617,409,352.00

    3). Money Wired to Latin America Since '01: $268,834,744,421.00

    4). Cost of Social Services for Illegal Immigrants Since 1996: $398,635,773,962.00

    5). Children of Illegals in Public Schools: 4,013,110

    6). Cost of Illegals in K-12 Since 1996: $14,117,945,757.00

    7). Illegal Immigrants Incarcerated: 337,030

    8). Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001: $1,417,834,235.00

    9). Illegal Immigrant Fugitives: 647,728

    10). Anchor Babies Since 2002: 1,991,984

    11). Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Immigrants: 9,959,107

    ImmigrationCounters.com provides the public key statistics resulting from illegal immigration in America. Using the latest government and private sources, research and analysis trending data is factored at their individual rates of increase.

    Illegal Immigration Counters - Home Page
    http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are still unconvinced that the "Immigration Reform Bill" will not get SHOVED down our throats, look at today's "NEWS" event. Yesterday, while Americans toiled to pay their taxes, the MSM ("Fox" to me, I don't watch/listen to anyone else), was all over the problems with the Bill and all the resistance being thrown at it by fed-up citizens and grassroots organizations. The other "news" was the TB/CDC scandal.

    Today, TB is still there, it has the capacity to remain there throughout the entire incubation period or, at least for two weeks. A scare tactic utilized to its maximum benefit. What happened to the immigration bill now that people are off and can catch-up??

    All of a sudden, after a one year + investigation, Breaking News. A "Plan" has been exposed. I won't bother you with the details, or the lack thereof, just turn on the news. Now don't get me wrong, I am thrilled that this has been exposed and stopped. My problem with this is the timing. Nothing could look more suspicious. Think back to the Clinton Era. When the scandals hit, when public opinion soured on policy or whatever. Something major happened to divert media coverage and take away any further public exposure/momentum, and gave them time to implement policy without resistance or establish recovery procedures. All day, this has dominated the news. Now, rather than arraign these guys today as planned, arraignment has been postponed until Wednesday. Congress reconvenes Monday, the 4th, with a vote planned on or before WEDNEDAY!!

    Coincidence??? Somehow, I don't think so!!!!!!!!! A new low??? No, just SOP. (Standard Operating Procedures.)

    Mark my words; immigration will at best get a passing comment at the top/bottom of the hourly recap. Nothing more. The next story will be that it passed.
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