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"Like it or not, the constitution is changing and the pace of change is likely to accelerate. In the absence of a movement toward something better, we shall be force-marched by media propagandists and yahoo demagogues toward something worse. If a "civilized society" does not remake the constitution in its image, the new barbarism will surely imprint its own likeness upon it."
"Like it or not, the constitution is changing and the pace of change is likely to accelerate. In the absence of a movement toward something better, we shall be force-marched by media propagandists and yahoo demagogues toward something worse. If a "civilized society" does not remake the constitution in its image, the new barbarism will surely imprint its own likeness upon it."
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quote:It's time to start thinking.
+1 quote:To be sure, a new convention, like the old one, would most likely be dominated by the rich and the powerful. In our age, they would be joined by the vicious, the demented, the superstitious, and the downright silly.I'll add corrupt and there you have it. The root of our problems now!!
I don't like it!!! We ARE be force-marched by media propagandists and yahoo demagogues toward something worse. The new barbarism HAS and Continues to further imprint its own likeness upon it. If a "civilized society" does not demand adherence to the Constitution in its original and uncorrupted image, IT WILL BE LOST!!
I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and been full of P and vinegar all day but, not to the point of civil disobedience.
I won't rule that out as an end to the means. However, I would MUCH RATHER see an explosion of political activism in refutation of the present course toward socialism. It's obvious there are increasing numbers expressing dissenting opinions but only where policy directly affects them. It'* and miss and rarely sustained during the 2nd, 3rd etc.., attempt to subvert their will. Most people don't have the time to maintain a constant vigil on elected officials. Take any issue you choose, if it fails, it comes right back, often within days, wearing a new name/number and tried again. OR; it comes hidden in another bill. OR; Introduced piece meal as supporting legislation for something else. OR; (a new tactic) by-passing the legislative process. (i.e.: OSHA). Get my drift? A constant, Agenda driven process to wear down and demoralize a protest by anyone in opposition. Another example of this being their attempts and attacks on Conservatives everywhere, especially talk radio, and legislative actions to render all silent.
The time has come to do one massive, frontal attack of our own. Get vocal en-mass!! To render this daily vigil unnecessary. They ignore it anyway. If every concerned citizen wrote, e-mailed and phoned in ONE message, to each and every elected official that represents them, I think things would change. That message being: We are fed-up with the way things are going in Washington. I have better things to do than worry about how you're going to vote and then waste my time expressing my desire with each issue. We're organizing to remove you from office if you continue to conduct our business in violation of the Constitution. This includes 1st, 2nd .. 14th etc. Amendment Rights. You where elected by majority and took an oath to support and defend the Constitution. If you must, get a copy, read it and then do just that. I helped get you elected; I'll work even harder to get you fired. Or words to that effect. Whatever trips your trigger. I can assure you it worked on TWO Senators during the immigration debacle. (One of whom helped craft it.) In the house urban areas equal more reps, albeit smaller districts, and they tend to drown out the rural voices if they don't speak up. And even when they do. If the Senate can be held in check, we have a chance. Two per state means they also, but not exclusively, represent the urban areas. A rural voice can be heard equally. The original and effective, built in, check and balance.
That 3% pales by comparison of the numbers that could be obtained in a vocal blitz if organized and then summarily dismissed by their representatives!!! Get them involved; they won't accept rejection of THEIR efforts. The Target Adjournment Date is November 16. Blitz before then and then let them come home and explain their actions and find out how serious we are!!
I call for civil disobedience, but as I am already well aware, there are many more people doing this than one might expect.
When do we start??
Thanks for posting that. I was unaware of the new movement. Now, I've looked into the subject and I can't say I've changed my mind. I know the Constitution isn't perfect but it has served us well. It seems to me that this is more of a scheme to change the rulebook, due to failures in further subverting the original document. A scheme to open the door even wider for further corruption and advancement of the far left Socialist agenda. Look at the source(s) and directions of change and make up your own mind. Think "Oligarchic Republic". (Look it up if you must.) The check and balance I referred to yesterday would be removed. Look at Gun Control Laws in these "Urban" areas. Look toward the prospect of San Fran, Chicago, NY City, Atlanta, etc. dictating every ones rights and establishing a "New Moral Code" (Immoral), as if it's not bad enough now. If states chose to change their Constitution, that's their business. It would be an internal affair. BUT IMHO: The U.S. Constitution and Bill Of Rights are OFF LIMITS!!!!!!!!!!! And, I might add here, ADHERED TO!!
We need a new Constitution - Los Angeles Times:
By: Larry J. Sabato
* Creating a more representative Senate. Stunningly, just 17% of the current American population elects a majority of the U.S. Senate. This is because even though California has about 70 times the population of Wyoming, both states get two U.S. senators. The larger states may have 83% of the nation's people, but they get nothing without the approval of the lightly populated states. In the beginning of the republic, the population differential between the large and small states -- and thus the unfairness -- was far less.
But today, the structure of the upper chamber of Congress is completely outmoded. Let's build a fairer Senate by granting the 10 states with the greatest population two additional senators each, and the next 15 most populated states one additional senator each.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-sabato10oct10,0,4265634.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
Larry J. Sabato is the author of "A More Perfect Constitution: 23 Proposals to Revitalize Our Constitution and Make America a Fairer Country." He directs the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia AND Writes articles for dailykos.com: These seem to be the same article except for size and to try and copy locks you up.
Daily Kos: Universal National Service
by Larry J Sabato. Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 01:36:02 PM PDT. In this final post I will
address my idea for a "Bill of Responsibilities" to match the Bill of ...
www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/24/142917/42 - 181k - Cached - Similar pages
Daily Kos: Universal National Service
by Larry J Sabato. Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 01:36:02 PM PDT ... Larry J Sabato's
diary :: ::. No adult American alive on January 20, 1961, will ever forget the ...
feeds.dailykos.com/~r/dailykos/index/~3/175024134/42 - 20k - Cached - Similar pages
Larry J. Sabato - Basic Bio: A Democrat and Rhodes Scholarship??
http://www.nndb.com/people/796/000118442/
Sabato's Crystal Ball - About the Crystal Ball
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/
UVA Center for Politics
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/about/staff_sabato.htm
A Couple more Links Follow:
Can't See the Center:
http://karlmaher.blogspot.com/2005/10/we-need-new-constitution.html
And for trfox: All is not sacred in a "State Constitution".
It's not just a Federal Government Idea!!
Rewriting Indiana's Constitution - Q&A (Informative - but I can only imagine how much stricter the gun laws will be, if not totally banned.)
A new constitution? | The Journal Gazette
Published: August 26, 2007 6:00 a.m.
Click Here
I agree with you, I do not advocate throwing away what we already have. The problem is the politicians and the way they interprete the laws we have today. They want to mold and sculpture the laws to fit their selfish agenda. They don't care about the "People" anymore. Someday the "people" will get fed up and do something about it. History has a mean way of repeating itself !
I found that web site while surfing the other night and decided to post it for some feedback.
quote:I agree with you, I do not advocate throwing away what we already have.You had me worried there for a while!
quote:The problem is the politicians and the way they interpret the laws we have today.Therefore a movement to remove the only obstacle in their way is the result!! They can't win with the rules as written so the next logical move is to change the rulebook.
quote:They want to mold and sculpture the laws to fit their selfish agenda. They don't care about the "People" anymore.And what is standing in their way?? A Grand Old Document that they've been unable, to date, to relegate totally irrelevant.
quote:Someday the "people" will get fed up and do something about it. History has a mean way of repeating itself!The sooner the better!! Refer to my rant from yesterday.
quote:I found that web site while surfing the other night and decided to post it for some feedback.You got my attention. Had enough of mine yet? Seriously, I really would like for some others to weigh-in on this ideology.
Well, I guess I don't see the problem...one has to have 'em, obviously it aint Bill. Seems to me he qualifies.
Anyway, I think this is hogwash.
James Buchanan, potus #15, was a bachelor.
I think we should force them to repeal the 19th amendment.
quote:That's hilarious, WW, very funnyI found it rather amusing, yet curious, myself. I must admit though, I've NEVER met the man (or woman) that didn't know SOMETHING that I didn't!! Although I stated this was a conversation, it was a brief one and I didn't feel like creating a scene in a hospital lobby. If was reason enough for this fella to oppose it, let him think what he likes. Flip side: I'll never dismiss anything completely until I'm satisfied it's actually misinformation. Even if I believe it to be bogus.
quote:Well, I guess I don't see the problem...one has to have 'em, obviously it aint Bill. Seems to me he qualifies.
Anyway, I think this is hogwash.
James Buchanan, potus #15, was a bachelor.
I think we should force them to repeal the 19th amendment.Although Buchanan didn't come to mind immediately, I thought there had been at least one bachelor and even more whom were widowed while in office. Since it's an unelected position and really isn't even an official title, how could it be mandated or required by the Constitution that FLOTUS be a female?? I have found NOTHING that supports that premise.
As for the 19th Amendment, it was the beginning of the end. That ain't the wisest of positions these days but it's the brutal truth!! Male Chauvinist Pig? I've been called worse!!