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The "Dirty Dozen" rules for successful militia organizations:
1. We are not `the infantry'! NEVER fight like the infantry! It is OK to think like the infantry ONLY when looking for a way to defeat them! Remember, infantry battles require lots of collateral support (artillery, mortars, and large supply ammo/people to shoot it, etc.) and we don't have that. If you fight a `standup fight' with the infantry you (most likely) will die in large numbers.
2. Everyone's a guerrilla. Fight to win. Do the unexpected. Think of Sun Tzu!
3. Everyone is a rifleman first (or "rifleperson" for all you PC types) and will be armed, and fight, as the mission requires.
4. Everyone has a part in the success of the mission! If you are in a support or defense role and not `on the line' you still are in the game and your performance counts.
5. The highest survivability in `front line' combat is within small, well-trained units that know and execute the assigned mission. Seek to break down your units to their smallest components. Learn to use these smaller teams as `force multipliers' when the action gets hot, and teach them to communicate effectively in the field for survivability.
6. Assure that each team understands the assigned mission. Assure that each team has the training and equipment to accomplish that mission. Help each team get up to speed and squared away. Each member of the team should know their role and at least the role of another on that team. Cross train as needed to accomplish this.
7. Speak the `other' local languages. Lets face it, not everybody speaks English in this country. Time to learn at least one of the `other' predominate languages in your area of operation. It could save your butt some day and at the least you will get the right food at the drive through.
8. Foster `esprit de corps' by forming special teams (only as needed). Remember, this is not accomplished by giving out `cool hats' to everyone in the unit! Also keep in mind; if everybody could have gotten in to the unit then we would have been called "Normal Forces" not Special Forces! Make them earn it and make it a mission you need done.
9. Every organization needs leadership that is compatible with that organizations mission. There are crisis leaders and non-crisis leaders! Don't put a person who is a great fire team leader in a support role and expect them to excel right away! Set expectations and help them understand/accomplish the mission.
10. The militia is a voluntary organization like no other! In the Army you only volunteer once (when you enlist) and they you have to show up for training or go to jail. In the militia you must make YOURSELF do the job as needed. Recognize this and reward it!
11. Plan to train a lot of folks who `see the light' AFTER the SHTF! If we turn them away they will go some ware and it may be to the other side! View you current staff/members as the `seed corn' for Americas future units. They will be the `squared away ones' who will do the teaching and lead the masses.
12. Be creative in your training. Make it as fun but realistic as possible. Talk about the `what ifs' with you team AND their families. No one will want to fight if they think their families are in jeopardy when they are in the field! Make an action plan to involve and protect your entire militia family.
Something to ponder .....
1. We are not `the infantry'! NEVER fight like the infantry! It is OK to think like the infantry ONLY when looking for a way to defeat them! Remember, infantry battles require lots of collateral support (artillery, mortars, and large supply ammo/people to shoot it, etc.) and we don't have that. If you fight a `standup fight' with the infantry you (most likely) will die in large numbers.
2. Everyone's a guerrilla. Fight to win. Do the unexpected. Think of Sun Tzu!
3. Everyone is a rifleman first (or "rifleperson" for all you PC types) and will be armed, and fight, as the mission requires.
4. Everyone has a part in the success of the mission! If you are in a support or defense role and not `on the line' you still are in the game and your performance counts.
5. The highest survivability in `front line' combat is within small, well-trained units that know and execute the assigned mission. Seek to break down your units to their smallest components. Learn to use these smaller teams as `force multipliers' when the action gets hot, and teach them to communicate effectively in the field for survivability.
6. Assure that each team understands the assigned mission. Assure that each team has the training and equipment to accomplish that mission. Help each team get up to speed and squared away. Each member of the team should know their role and at least the role of another on that team. Cross train as needed to accomplish this.
7. Speak the `other' local languages. Lets face it, not everybody speaks English in this country. Time to learn at least one of the `other' predominate languages in your area of operation. It could save your butt some day and at the least you will get the right food at the drive through.
8. Foster `esprit de corps' by forming special teams (only as needed). Remember, this is not accomplished by giving out `cool hats' to everyone in the unit! Also keep in mind; if everybody could have gotten in to the unit then we would have been called "Normal Forces" not Special Forces! Make them earn it and make it a mission you need done.
9. Every organization needs leadership that is compatible with that organizations mission. There are crisis leaders and non-crisis leaders! Don't put a person who is a great fire team leader in a support role and expect them to excel right away! Set expectations and help them understand/accomplish the mission.
10. The militia is a voluntary organization like no other! In the Army you only volunteer once (when you enlist) and they you have to show up for training or go to jail. In the militia you must make YOURSELF do the job as needed. Recognize this and reward it!
11. Plan to train a lot of folks who `see the light' AFTER the SHTF! If we turn them away they will go some ware and it may be to the other side! View you current staff/members as the `seed corn' for Americas future units. They will be the `squared away ones' who will do the teaching and lead the masses.
12. Be creative in your training. Make it as fun but realistic as possible. Talk about the `what ifs' with you team AND their families. No one will want to fight if they think their families are in jeopardy when they are in the field! Make an action plan to involve and protect your entire militia family.
Something to ponder .....
Comments
The enemy fears it. Along about 1996 that concept consumed them...after the big militia groups broke up....and their plans showed it.
Very difficult for them to get a handle on.
I also UNDERSTAND an "army of one" is useless against the "army of many" . There was a reason the founders wanted to protect the right to form militias.
A militia does not have to be an organization of a state. Let us not forget though that an army with no leadership gets led nowhere . You should be able to grasp the need for organization . Not that people NEED to be blindly led , but direction to remove the problem IS a must.
And WHEN is the BEST time for training? In the middle of a "war" or preparation before hand?
I do get what your saying friend, BUT I sincerely hope you see WHY training and preparation is NECESSARY.
How does this topic fit in the "Gun Rights" or "Constitutional Law" forum?
Does not the second ALSO give protection to the militia?
Thats my thoughts anyway...
Friend, I UNDERSTAND the concept.
I also UNDERSTAND an "army of one" is useless against the "army of many"
One "army of one" is useless against an "army of many"
Multiply that by several thousand and you have a whole new ballgame
Multiply that by several thousand and you have a whole new ballgame
Right, I agree, but your missing the point.
Take criminals for instance. One or a few get caught, beatten at their own game. Then look at the mob, organized right? You don't get MANY of them.
The SAME with our armed forces. If all acted individually there would be no winning for them. Planning, preparation, and training WIN wars, along with good leadership.
Not gonna get into a pis+++ contest with you.
I urge you to look at Iraq. Anytime a sizeable group of sand jocks get together...they get wiped out. The technology exists today so that ALL PHONES are tracked..mail is not secure...All radio transmissions monitored..
Your networking and central commands are compromised...RIGHT NOW.
Every training mission you embark upon is captured by those you do not wish to allow to know your actions.
As far as the suitibility of this subject in the forum...while I am sure it draws attention..the wrong kind...the fact remains that the subject is the last chance to regain out freedoms, somewhere down the road.
Just as envisioned by the Founders.
The fact remains that IF a certain side WANTS to be sucessful, certain things must be accomplished.
Training- with arms, manuvers, medical, commo, itellegence/counter itellegence, ect. The majority don't KNOW much of ANYTHING in the way of these things. Better to know NOW rather than the day you need to know.
Another thing we MUST get over, FEAR. Some seem to fear the powers that be more than God himself. WTH for? I have nothing to hide. I have no plans to hurt anyone. What CRIME am I committing by training for something that *MAY* never happen?
I don't hide the fact that I AM a militia member. I know IF TPTB what to know something, they will. I have committed no crimes and fear nothing but God himself. I am all too aware at what lengths the alphabet soups will go and do.
So in short, it's NOT that I want to argue with you, I just would like you to see my side.
Friend, you and I cannot argue. We may have a difference of opinion..but I believe Founders blood runs in your veins. That makes you much above average..and we shake hands as we complete a discussion.
quote:I am all too aware at what lengths the alphabet soups will go and do. I carry the scars on my body..I have no doubt what they are capable of.
What was meant as a lesson..merely infuriated me.
That being said..allowing an enemy information about tactics, abilities, manpower, and equipment will cost you dearly.
Retain a hole card.
That being said..allowing an enemy information about tactics, abilities, manpower, and equipment will cost you dearly.
Retain a hole card.
I agree.
Those rules are good BUT if you are out of shape give it up now. You will be a target. Get in shape first. All the guns, practice and ammo in the world will nto save a couch potato.
I disagree. You CAN get in shape WHILE accomplishing other goals.
The first place to start IS diet,next is exercise.
We gotta stop stuffing twinkies in the piehole BEFORE we can get healthy.
But least we remember that FAT and ABLE is better than just plain FAT.
Those rules are good BUT if you are out of shape give it up now. You will be a target. Get in shape first. All the guns, practice and ammo in the world will nto save a couch potato.
On the other hand, you can win a triathlon,
but if you can't hit what your aiming at..........
but if you can't hit what your aiming at
Ahhh...YESSS.
7 MILLION riflemen...firing ONE shot...and hiting what they aim at.
The war is over. Most of them won't even have a target.
Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that power, should not be active, but rather, at home studying political history.
It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a situation conducive to action on the part of a restive organization or individual.
The Justice (sic) Department promised in 1987 that there would never be another group that opposed them that they did not have at least one informer in. These federal "friends of government" are intelligence agents.
Now there will, no doubt, be mentally handicapped people out there who, while standing at a podium with an American flag draped in the background, and a lone eagle soaring in the sky above, will state emphatically in their best sounding red, white, and blue voice, "So what if the government is spying? We are not violating any laws." Such crippled thinking by any serious person is the best example that there is a need for special education classes.
America is quickly moving into a long dark night of police state tyranny, where the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear.
Take it easy,Wagon Wheel..please.
Those are good men. Perhaps naive..perhaps unwilling to believe the savagery of those in power...tho Waco and Ruby Ridge SHOULD have dispelled that notion many years ago.
Those of us vocal and visable serve a very real..and very vital..function. Canaries in the mine.
I've posted this before with the reference but here we go again:
Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that power, should not be active, but rather, at home studying political history.
It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a situation conducive to action on the part of a restive organization or individual.
The Justice (sic) Department promised in 1987 that there would never be another group that opposed them that they did not have at least one informer in. These federal "friends of government" are intelligence agents.
Now there will, no doubt, be mentally handicapped people out there who, while standing at a podium with an American flag draped in the background, and a lone eagle soaring in the sky above, will state emphatically in their best sounding red, white, and blue voice, "So what if the government is spying? We are not violating any laws." Such crippled thinking by any serious person is the best example that there is a need for special education classes.
America is quickly moving into a long dark night of police state tyranny, where the rights now accepted by most as being inalienable will disappear.
Makes sense BUT they thought that in 1775 too.
It was also true in biblical times, not that I want to discuss that, but; does that make it any less relevant today? The greedy and power hungry will stop at nothing and destroy anything that stands in their way. Then, and even more so now. So, what's your point?
Dutchman:
It was also true in biblical times, not that I want to discuss that, but; does that make it any less relevant today? The greedy and power hungry will stop at nothing and destroy anything that stands in their way. Then, and even more so now. So, what's your point?
Hold on there a second. What is your point?
Damm I hate chewin' my cabbage twice. Imade my point but here it is again:
Anyone who is so naive as to believe the most powerful government on earth will not crush any who pose a real threat to that power, should not be active, but rather, at home studying political history.
It is potential the federals fear most. Whether that potential exists in an individual or group is incidental. The federals measure potential threat in terms of what might happen given a situation conducive to action on the part of a restive organization or individual.
Next time go to a few earlier posts in the thread a get a feel the topic before butting in with stupid questions; unless of course, your trying to make a point??
Great post except for #7
I am not going to speak any Mexican.
I will starve first.
"Carry A BIG STICK !"
Freemind
Great post except for #7
I am not going to speak any Mexican.
I will starve first.
"Carry A BIG STICK !"
NY, I agree with you . I personally refuse to speak Spanish, although I do know some.
I prefer however to carry a big "Firestick", as I have found them to be more effective than you usual, run of the mill stick. [:D]
Anybody seen IAMAHUSKER ?