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Legality of Knuckles in US?
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Hello,
Correct me if I am wrong, but to the best of my knowledge brass knuckles are illegal to possess/use in all 50 states (let alone most countries.)
I was wondering though, are other types of knuckles legal? (Such as aluminum or hard-plastic knuckles?)
Thank you
Correct me if I am wrong, but to the best of my knowledge brass knuckles are illegal to possess/use in all 50 states (let alone most countries.)
I was wondering though, are other types of knuckles legal? (Such as aluminum or hard-plastic knuckles?)
Thank you
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the deed and intent is what will get ya in trouble, not the weapon.
"Hello,
Correct me if I am wrong, but to the best of my knowledge brass knuckles are illegal to possess/use in all 50 states (let alone most countries.)"
Yes, you are wrong to state that brass knuckles are illegal to possess in all 50 states. I suspect they're legal to possess in most states. I know they are legal to own in mine (but carrying is prohibited). Unfortunately, in many people's minds, the possession/ownership of these items is inseparable from laws prohibiting the CARRYING of these items.
You beat someone with brass knuckles, you stand a good chance of killing them.
If you are within your rights to kill someone, why would you not use a gun?
If it is not warranted, and a simple "fistfight" is the result, fight like a man with just your fists, otherwise you will be looking at a new boyfriend named Bubba.
Unless you want to collect them,.......what is the purpose?
You beat someone with brass knuckles, you stand a good chance of killing them.
If you are within your rights to kill someone, why would you not use a gun?
If it is not warranted, and a simple "fistfight" is the result, fight like a man with just your fists, otherwise you will be looking at a new boyfriend named Bubba.
Marc1301: "Unless you want to collect them,.......what is the purpose?"
For starters, lots of people DO collect them, including me. Regardless of WHY someone might want them, there is a difference between simply OWNING knucks and CARRYING knucks. The original posters question/assumption was "...brass knuckles are illegal to possess/use in all 50 states". I simply addressed the fallacious part of his assumption that it is illegal to POSSESS (own) and that "possessing" is the same as "using".
Marc1301: "You beat someone with brass knuckles, you stand a good chance of killing them."
If you BEAT someone with anything -including bare hands- you stand a "CHANCE" of killing him; that is, unless you're a limp-wristed girly-man socialist who votes Democrat in which case your impotent flailing, hair pulling and eye clawing while shrillly shrieking probably wouldn't qualify as a "beating" and is more likely to result in you RECEIVING a beating.
Your claim about the lethality of brass knuckles is silly. Knucks are no more a "super weapon" than a switchblade, "Ninja throwing stars" or nunchuka. To wit:
- Switchblades are no more lethal than any other knife.
- Nunchuka require exceptional skill to be effective.
- "Ninja Throwing Stars" are specialty weapons that -in their most common encountered form- are watered down versions of the original "real" items that were fairly lethal.
Knucks are very like "Ninja Throwing Stars" in that their most commonly encountered version is really not all that effective unless used by an expert. In short, even if you arm your hands with knucks, you still have to actually HIT the other guy before any damage can be done and even then, you have to know how to mount them (the knucks) and how to strike. Pulp fiction novels and Hollwyood demonized both switchblades and knucks by inventing a mystical lethality associated with them. Then along came sensitive girly-man politicians (and people like you) who lapped up the drivel like a cat drinking milk and that's why they're illegal to carry. It has nothing to do with their actual lethality/effectiveness as a weapon.
You doubt it? If every object that could inflict as much damage as brass/iron knucks was illegal to own, you couldn't walk into a hardware store and buy a claw hammer. In fact, a standard claw hammer is actually MUCH more effective and likely to be lethal than a set of knucks. If you hit someone with a claw hammer and it wasn't justifiable (self defense and even then special conditions would have to apply) you'll probably be arrested and charged with Aggravated Assault and/or Assault With A Deadly Weapon.
But again: my initial post in this thread was merely a factual reply to the non-factual assumptions of the original poster about the legality of POSSESSING knucks. But thank you for the opportunity to dispel some of the other commonly held misconceptions regarding these interesting little items. [;)]
Guy,......you are a flipping moron!
I simply made a comment about the reason to own them,.....besides "collecting". Someone collects everything on the planet.
I could care less about some dork coming at me with brass knuckles, or chuks, or a claw hammer, cuz I am gonna put a cap in his butt.
BTW, I was an amateur boxer, with some martial arts experience, so lumping me in with girlie men is hardly appropriate.[}:)]
I have been in more fist fights than I can remember, but as one ages, one tends to become more intelligent along with that age, or at least most do.
I carry a GUN for a reason, and would not hesitate to use it, therefore I don't need any damn brass knuckles, that was what I was relating.
Enjoy your collection!
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First off you 9 post loser, Mark is a pretty smart guy.
I don't know what makes you think he is a liberal, because he is not. Unless you have some proof other than you irrelvent opinion shut your pie hole.
You act like YOU are some kind of tough guy, promoting knucks. Try it sometime and you will soon learn staring down the barrel of a 45 will put you out faster than your first attempted swing. Ever hear the expression "don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Well that goes for the stupid knucks too.
If you would remove your head from your rear end you might learn something over here. Keep acting like a child and your gonna get spanked.
FM: "First off you 9 post loser, Mark is a pretty smart guy."
According to you. I suppose in the Land of the Blind, the one-eyed man is King but I'm not impressed with any of his drivel. He took my simple, factual response to an erroneous assumption made in the initial post and used it as an excuse to parade his juvenile internet fantasies.
As for how many posts make a loser, you and he are living proof that no matter how many times punks like you post, you'll still be punks.
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FM: "I don't know what makes you think he is a liberal, because he is not."
I didn't say he's a liberal. Evidently you two went to the same school and skipped the same classes on reading comprehension. I said he's a poster child for the loony left, the kind of person they like to portray as a "gun nut". You're right in there with him, with your silly quotes and threats and wishing someone would attack you with some knucks so you can shoot him.
Guys (?) like you live your lives fantasizing about the day you'll have a reason to pull your gun- but in reality you'd be scared to death if it ever happened. Punks like you frequently wind up being pistol-whipped with your own gun. Then you slink back home, wait a few weeks until the bruises and cuts heal- and report your gun as stolen.
You're pathetic.
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FM: "Unless you have some proof other than you irrelvent opinion shut your pie hole."
Oh my. Another internet tough guy. What are you going to do: yak smack until I pass out from boredom and hit my chin on the floor? LMAO
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FM: "You act like YOU are some kind of tough guy, promoting knucks. Try it sometime and you will soon learn staring down the barrel of a 45 will put you out faster than your first attempted swing. Ever hear the expression "don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Well that goes for the stupid knucks too."
Aw jeeze...what a rube. I'm just gonna tell you like it is, Poindexter: you're either a liar or an illiterate idiot. You cannot quote one place where I "promoted", advocated, or suggested someone use knucks in a fight or carry them on his person. Just the opposite: it's you and your boyfriend Marcy who are so scared of knucks that you're both screeching about how you want to shoot someone you think is threatening you with some.
I said knucks are largely ineffective; that's certainly not "promoting" their usage or carry. See now, when you argue against something that was not said, it's a form of dishonesty. It's basically the same as lying. So now that you've shown yourself to be a liar, let's see what else you have to say there, Miss Priss.
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FM: "If you would remove your head from your rear end you might learn something over here. Keep acting like a child and your gonna get spanked."
Oh, I've learned a lot already. I've learned that there are a lot of borderline-illiterate wannabe tough guys on this forum who like to brag about this and threaten that and demand this and blah blah blah...
Save your spanking talk for the next tender moment you spend with your boyfriend Marcy. Maybe it's what makes both of you wet your panties but your tough talk doesn't arouse me or scare me. If anything it disgusts me. Understand little man?
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