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2640

Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
Shumer just brought 2640 to the floor for immediate consideration!!!

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  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel

    Shumer just brought 2640 to the floor for immediate consideration!!!



    Uhhh... details???
  • br549br549 Member Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    did they vote on it?
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    PASSED !!!


    RE; Kaaaateeee Kour---Ic.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I was on my way out the door when I heard him make his move. I just searched the Congressional records, votes and everything I could think of and there is NOTHING. Not much of anything has been updated to reflect the days' business. I believe most of the Senators had left since they were there until after midnight last night and I think he had asked for a suspension of rules and voice vote. If, and I understand it might have, it was passed it was done without a recorded vote!!!
  • triple223taptriple223tap Member Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    "Rather than focusing on improving the current laws prohibiting people with certain mental health disabilities from buying guns, the bill is now nothing more than a gun lobby wish list," said Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center. "It will waste millions of taxpayer dollars restoring the gun privileges of persons previously determined to present a danger to themselves or others."
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Cogburn forced the slimy politicians to fund revue boards.


    They will defunded speedily.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    FYI only, I am going to tackle this issue over in GD since there are more fence sitters and ignorant gun-owners there.

    Two topics are posted there, "2640" and "the result of the NRA sellout".
  • bullride8bullride8 Member Posts: 50 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Taken from VPC.org
    quote:Gun Lobby Hijacks Bill Intended to Improve Gun Buyer Background Checks
    Senate-Passed Legislation Would Revive Failed Multi-Million-Dollar Program to Restore Gun Privileges of Persons Currently Ineligible to Possess Firearms Because of Mental Health Disability

    WASHINGTON, DC--Leading national gun violence prevention organizations the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Legal Community Against Violence, and the Violence Policy Center today warned that a bill intended to improve the records available to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS)--the national system used to screen gun buyers--has been hijacked by the gun lobby and would now do far more harm than good.

    The "NICS Improvement Act" passed today by the Senate would:

    Resuscitate a failed government program that spent millions of dollars annually to allow persons prohibited from buying guns to regain the ability to legally acquire firearms. The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) would be required to establish a "relief from disability" program to allow persons now prohibited from possessing a firearm because they have "been adjudicated as a mental defective" or "committed to a mental institution" to apply to have their bar on firearms possession removed. As a result of the bill, more than 116,000 individuals would be eligible to apply. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) used to run a similar program that, in addition to those with mental disabilities, even allowed felons to apply for "relief." Annual costs for the ATF program ballooned to more than $4 million in 1991, with an average cost of $4,800 per applicant and 43 full-time employees dedicated to processing the applications. Congress shut down the ATF program in 1992 because of its high cost, inefficiency, and threat to public safety. Under the bill, states would also be required to establish such "relief" programs to restore the gun privileges of those with mental health disabilities in order to be eligible for potential grant money to upgrade records submitted to the NICS.


    Set an arbitrary time limit for the VA to act on applications for "relief." If the agency fails to act within 365 days, applicants could file a lawsuit asking a court to restore their gun privileges, even if Congress fails to provide the VA with the appropriate resources to process these investigations. Some prevailing applicants would be entitled to attorneys' fees. This provision is contrary to a unanimous 2002 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that ATF's failure to act on a relief application from a felon (because of lack of appropriations) did not constitute a denial that would entitle the applicant to judicial review. The decision noted that courts are ill-equipped to make decisions on individual applications for "relief" under the standards that would apply under the "NICS Improvement Act," stating: "Whether an applicant is `likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety' presupposes an inquiry into that applicant's background--a function best performed by the Executive, which, unlike courts, is institutionally equipped for conducting a neutral, wide-ranging investigation. Similarly, the `public interest' standard calls for an inherently policy-based decision best left in the hands of an agency."


    Significantly narrow the category of records of people with mental disabilities that would be submitted to the NICS by the federal government. The current permanent bar on persons with certain health disabilities would be replaced with temporary restrictions.
    Kristen Rand, legislative director of the Violence Policy Center, states, "This bill was intended to be Congress' response to the mass shooting at Virginia Tech that left 32 people murdered. But rather than focusing on improving the current laws prohibiting people with certain mental health disabilities from buying guns, the bill is now nothing more than a gun lobby wish list. It will waste millions of taxpayer dollars restoring the gun privileges of persons previously determined to present a danger to themselves or others. Once a solution, the bill is now part of the problem."

    Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, adds, "It is ironic that the gun lobby has coerced the Senate into providing resources to rearm mentally disabled veterans during a time when the VA is struggling to provide adequate mental health care to those in need."

    Robyn Thomas, executive director of the Legal Community Against Violence, comments, "The bill's original intent, to increase reporting of state records to the NICS database, is an important objective that would improve enforcement of federal laws governing persons prohibited from possessing firearms. The changes made by the gun lobby risk undermining those laws, and we call on the House to have a full debate on the merits of this legislation."
  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You know, I could respect antigunners a little more if they focused on truthful, even if wrong, statements, but out and out lies make me turn against them, simply because I was lied to.
  • pickenuppickenup Member Posts: 22,845 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    WASHINGTON, July 6, 2007 - All Illinois National Guard troops returning from deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan now will be screened for traumatic brain injury and get access to post-traumatic stress disorder help under a new, first-of-its-kind state program.

    The program includes mandatory traumatic brain injury
    screening for all returning National Guard combat veterans, voluntary screening for all other Illinois veterans, and a 24-hour toll-free psychological help line for veterans suffering from PTSD.

    http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=46649

    Are they TRYING to start something???
    They mandated this back in July, wonder when 2640 was first introduced?

    Oh wait, the NRA said 2640 is a good bill, and will not hurt vets.
    Whew, had me worried there for a second. Nevermind
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