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redress of grievences (very wordy)

n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
I had this sent to me. What do you all think?

Two hundred years ago, our ancestors signed a document that forever changed the course of history: the Declaration of Independence. It severed the bonds of Colonial America to a tyrannical king and parliament in England, and established for the first time a society based on the principle of the rule of law and limited government. The result was a nation that achieved the greatest of achievements, the highest standards of living, and the greatest levels of individual freedom in human history. But the principles that made this country great have gradually been forgotten - to the point where an out-of-control government is now implementing a police state system that will totally destroy our liberty and the remainder of our dwindling prosperity.
We continue to hold these truths to be self-evident: that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights, we instituted a government that was to derive its just powers only by the consent of the governed.
Our forefathers acknowledged that whenever government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and establish a new government; laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Liberty, safety and happiness.
Listed here are some grievances that, if our forefathers were around today, would include in a new Declaration of Independence. It is probable that like then, they would resort to force of arms today to right an insufferable evil; an evil that we have not yet vanquished for sheer lack of courage!
We have acknowledged that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes. Accordingly, our experience has been to endure a far greater degree of oppression than what is morally acceptable, instead of setting ourselves aright by abolishing that to which we have become accustomed...
Let's look at the grievances that a new generation of patriots have claimed:
Our Federal Government, and quisling state governments, have deprived the people of the security of our Lives, Liberty and Property; replacing it with terror. Citizens of the 50 states have been murdered, unjustly imprisoned, and tortured by agents of the government under the color of law, and with the protection of 'sovereign immunity' under the government.
They have imposed upon us, without our consent, multitudes of laws, taxes, and regulations that are most unnecessary and unwholesome for the public good, serving the venal interests of multinational corporations and international bankers, rather than in the honest representation of the people. These laws and regulations are multiplied beyond all reason or humanity, deliberately subverting both the words and intent of our Constitution and Bill of Rights to the point where there is not a single American who could not be arrested, imprisoned and impoverished for violating one of the millions of arbitrary and incomprehensible regulations, laws, and edicts now in force.
They have "erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat our their Substance." The IRS, Justice Department, State and local revenue authorities and a multitude of other government agencies have engaged in an escalating orgy of legalized looting and wholesale seizure of private property to feed the appetite of arrogant and rapacious bureaucracies. The supreme Court has given these bureaucracies, as well as quisling state and local governments, its official blessing to seize the property of anyone - for any pretext, and without full market value of said property.
They have instituted oppressive and destructive taxes without our consent; stolen more than half of our incomes year after year; and compelled us to testify against ourselves byfilling out endless compulsory reports. They have also pressed business owners into unpaid service as government spies and tax collectors; destroyed our peace, security & freedom in order to finance their oppressive bureaucracies, failed social programs, and wars of aggression. This was accomplished by fraudulently claiming the consent of the people, and by substituting our incomes for tariffs and customs, as the source of the Treasury, obtained an unlimited power of the purse in order to control the people and further their other designs.
They have destroyed our financial security: They have debauched the currency, substituting worthless paper for gold and silver. They have clandestinely abdicated our banking system to a private cartel; inflating currency and credit and looting the real wealth of the people. They have centralized control of our economy into their hands and have dictated every aspect of how our businesses must be operated. They have issued edict upon edict, issued regulation on top of regulation, instituted fine after fine, treated us as if we were common criminals, seized our property, and destroyed our ability to make an honest living for ourselves and our families;
They have destroyed our jobs by systematically dropping all trade barriers with foreign nations, creating a system of labor arbitrage with poorer nations with whom Americans cannot compete; and by flooding our markets with foreign foods and consumer goods that unfairly undercut domestic producers.
They have burdened us with waste, corruption, and incomprehensibly massive government debt, which has brought our nation to bankruptcy at least once; and to prevent future bankruptcy they mortgaged the lives, liberty, and property of this and every future generation of Americans. They have destroyed jobs and stifled private initiative with suffocating regulations and oppressive bureaucracies.
They have subverted the electoral process through unjust and exclusionary ballot access and campaign finance laws. Vast sums of tax-extorted funds have been used to create a Congressional Monopoly and an Imperial Presidency which have crushed dissent and excluded any serious challenge to their power.
They have disparaged the will of the people upon the electoral process by diluting our representation through uncontrolled illegal immigration, and then rewarding these illegal immigrants with opportunities to vote. Then they heap additional insult and injury upon us by allowing these non-citizens to obtain welfare benefits from the tax-extorted wages of American citizens.
They have deprived us of representation by pandering to the interests of the obscenely wealthy and to multinational corporations; through bribery, graft, influence-peddling, and ignoring conflicts of interest.
They have hobbled and corrupted our system of justice by creating endless numbers of technical crimes against the State, and crimes without victims - making vices into crimes, dissent into treason, and sensuality into perversion. They have seized billions of dollars worth of property without due process of law, imprisoned countless thousands without indictment or trial, and have made equal justice under law impossible by manipulating courts and juries, terrorizing our attorneys and seizing their fees. They have made a complete mockery of our justice system by reversing jury decisions by fiat, and imprisoning jurors for resisting illegal judicial orders.
They have kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies of military and police. In direct violation of the Constitution, US troops have repeatedly invaded and reduced foreign countries to ruin without declaration of war by Congress. They have used force to compel our children to fight and die in foreign wars far removed from their homes. In the name of various crises, such as a "War on Drugs", a "War on Crime", and even perversely, "a Waron Terrorism" they have engaged in open war upon the people of the United States, invading farm and field, village and home, and spreading terror across the land.
They have used both uniformed and covert operatives to commit crimes against humanity, including but not limited to: police snipers murdering unarmed adults, women and children; police & military troops assaulting churches with massive firepower, even to the point of using combat vehicles and tanks; laying siege to families, congregations, and communities - then murdering them wholesale; and the mass murder of hundreds and thousands of Americans in putative terrorist attacks, that are in fact ordered by the highest officeholders in government.
They have created and combined agencies for the express and specific purpose of engaging in espionage against the citizens of this nation, and have encouraged commercial interests to engage in similar acts of espionage for their own profit.
They have abolished our covenants and subverted our form of government, replacing it with a form that is alien to us and entirely contrary to the form required by our Constitution, from the national and state levels all the way down to the lowliest local magistrate;
For declaring themselves invested with the unlimited and general power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever, whether it be in the halls of Congress or from the court bench.
They have subverted our educational, social, religious, commercial, and other institutions, for the purpose of re-educating the population with beliefs, values, behavior, and conduct that is perverse and contrary to the well-being of a free republic.
They have perverted our relations with other nations, using their power to support foreign tyrants. They have bribed other nations with foreign aid, restricted foreign trade, and exported massive quantities of weapons of death and destruction - fomenting discord, repression and war throughout the world. They have used the extorted tax money of Americans to implement a design for global government, to promote and support communist governments throughout the world, and bail out financial institutions that engage in the same practices.
They have combined with foreign nations to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving their assent to acts of pretended legislation under a framework for a global government.
They have abolished our just and proper laws by substituting them with unconstitutional and fraudulent treaties, submerging our laws under the laws, regulations & conventions of supranational organizations.
They have combined with organizations whose goals are the epitome of treason; whose stated goals are to betray the American people into the hands of a global government. They maintain membership in organizations such as the 'Club of Rome', 'Council on Foreign Relations', 'Trilateral Commission', 'Bilderbergers', and the 'United Nations Association of America'. Outside of government service, members of these organizations maintain control over commercial and nonprofit corporations by means of interlocking directorates, and through funding provided by foundations and banking institutions controlled by others who are similarly affiliated.
In the name of "peacekeeping" and assisting other nations, they have illegally waged war on many nations and innocent peoples, committing democide in the name of peace, committing war crimes, engaging in other crimes against humanity abroad, making the United States of America the most hated nation in the world.
They have encouraged Islamic terrorists to attack us, whose known rule of warfare is the indiscriminate murder of all ages, sexes and conditions. They also excite the domestic insurrectionists amongst us, for the pretext of further depriving us of our Liberties and freedoms.

The government of the United States of America has so abrogated its sacred covenants to the people of this nation that our own government is commonly recognized as the greatest menace to peace, freedom, and prosperity, both here and throughout the world.
In every stage of these oppressions, we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered either by repeated injury, or not at all. Any government, whose every act so markedly imitates the character of a tyrant, is unfit to govern a free people. Our government has failed to answer our petitions for redress because they do not intend to redress our injuries.
We, the people, have lost all control of our societal institutions to this criminal, terrorist combine and that government has ceased to be our servant, and has become instead a terrible and tyrannical master. To restore the freedom, peace and prosperity of the people, we have demanded:
That the protections of individual rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights be strictly enforced. That all laws and court decisions restricting freedom of speech, press, religion, assembly and enterprise; the right to keep and bear arms and the right to own and dispose of property be justly recognized as Null and Void, and thereby stricken from the law books.
That Citizen Grand Juries not under the control of government-appointed judges or prosecutors be convened in each State with the power to indict government officials and employees who violate the rights of any citizen, and that all officials and employees so indicted be promptly brought to trial.
That a "Citizen Veto" be created at federal, state and local levels, whereby all citizens can veto any new legislation - including revenue acts. Also, that the establishment of a national Citizen Power of Recall so that unscrupulous politicians may be removed from power by popular initiative.
That the Income Tax and the IRS be forever abolished and that all persons jailed for tax evasion be freed.
That sufficient government property be sold to retire the national debt.
That all government agencies which are not clearly engaged in the protection of life, liberty and property of the individual be disbanded.
That the Federal Reserve, FDIC, FSLIC and currency laws be abolished, and that banking and insurance systems be left to the private sector in order to restore security to our economy.
That all laws creating government monopolies in education, medicine, utilities, mail delivery and all other public services be abolished.
That State and Economy be separated, and that federal control of interstate commerce be confined to prohibition of tariffs and trade restrictions between States. That freedom of association be restored to enterprise, including freedom to hire, fire, contract and negotiate; that all capitalist acts between consenting adults be legalized.
That foreign trade agreements be abolished, such as NAFTA, GATT & WTO; and the restoration of constitutional tariffs, import duties, and customs laws.
That all federal laws restricting gun ownership be abolished, and that a trained, well-armed citizenry be encouraged, as a defense against domestic criminals, foreign aggression and domestic tyranny.
That due process of law and the presumption of innocence be restored.
That RICO statutes, and other laws enabling the government to confiscate property without the owners being convicted of any crime, be abolished. That the Seventh Amendment to the Constitution, preserving the right to trial by jury in civil disputes be strengthened to include disputes between Citizens and the State.

That all Civil Forfeiture laws, and other laws holding "property" hostage for crimes, shall be immediately and completely abolished, and that henceforth no citizen shall be deprived of any property (except as punishment for a real crime against persons or property) of which they have been convicted.
That all jury members be explicitly informed of their right to judge the law as well as the facts in every court case, and to acquit if they find the law improper or unjust.
That 'Sovereign Immunity', which makes government officers and agents immune from prosecution for their crimes, be abolished, and that presumption in trials in favor of government officials, police officers and other agents of the State be ended.
That government officials and agents, and citizens be treated as equal before the law in all cases, both criminal and civil.
That all victimless crime laws be abolished, and all persons imprisoned for victimless offenses be immediately freed and their records cleared.
That the federal government be enjoined from all police functions, and that State and local police executives be elected in the same manner as county sheriffs, so that they may be held directly accountable to the people.
That the function of the military be confined to defense of the territory of the United States, and that all US troops be removed from foreign countries. That henceforth, the sole purpose of the military shall be protection of the lives and property of US citizens at home.
That the United States withdraw from membership in the United Nations and that the United Nations be asked to relocate its headquarters outside the United States.
That all American members of Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and other globalist combinations be arrested, indicted, and tried for Treason.
That henceforth all executives, legislators or judges who violate their oaths to uphold and defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights be removed from office and tried for treason.
That all blatantly unconstitutional laws such as the Patriot Acts, be recognized as Null and Void, and stricken from the law books; and that every elected official responsible for these abominations being enacted be removed from office.
Nor have we been wanting in attention to our Congressional representatives. We have warned them from repeatedly from their attempts to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of their specific powers delineated in the 1789 Constitution, and that all powers not specifically granted are prohibited to them under the 10th Amendment. We have appealed to their native senses of justice, duty, patriotism, and morality, but to no avail. We have likewise availed ourselves of correspondences with the President and petitions before the Courts, only to find they too are deaf to our pleas for Constitutional obedience.
In having War waged upon us by all branches of the federal government, their state-level quisling subsidiaries, various and sundry petty tyrants of unconstitutional regulatory agencies, and the agents and thugs of the multitudinous, unconstitutional standing armies, our forbearance has reached its limits.

Comments

  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    freemind:

    Where do I sign-up?
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    quote:our forbearance has reached its limits
    Not yet, for the brain-dead grass-eaters of America, it hasn't....

    Will it ever > Dunno..I just don't know. I have watched with amazement and horror as the tidal wave of tyranny has swept from sea to shining sea...and the garbage just keeps watching T.V. and voting in one slimy hack after another.
  • pickenuppickenup Member, Moderator Posts: 22,397 ******
    edited November -1
    After reading it twice, a little slower the second time, I still can't find anything to argue with.

    We are watching the demise of this (once great) country.
    SAD [V][V]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by pickenup
    After reading it twice, a little slower the second time, I still can't find anything to argue with.

    We are watching the demise of this (once great) country.
    SAD [V][V]


    That pretty much sums it up pickenup.

    We can argue over WHY the Fed is rapidly changing the face of the nation, but there can be little serious argument that there is a specific, deliberate move to do just that.

    Many of us are convinced it is the continuing move toward World Government. Some feel otherwise. Regardless, something bad is happening.

    The herd is way too large and content to make any real change. Grumble occasionally, yes. Squawk now and then, of course. Take any meaningful action, not hardly.

    I for one, will keep trying to make positive, Constitutional change and hope for the best, but get ready for the worst.

    I am still a hoping kind of guy.[;)]
  • jpwolfjpwolf Member Posts: 9,164
    edited November -1
    I can't think of anything the author missed. What an awesome piece! It tells exactly what's wrong, and even what we're supposed to do about it. Love it.
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It would be nice to see all politicians eat those words as they are gasping for the last breath of air !

    Well done !
    Abort Cuomo
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    This was a mere exerpt from a "manual" I received as of lately. It was title "from the third continential congress" but none the less in a very big basic manual. When I said I was ready for a fight, I meant just that.
  • Aaron.Combs1Aaron.Combs1 Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    + 1 who is the author if this piece? i must say they have done their homework, and are a TRUE patriot. to bad there are not more like they here in this country.
  • whompusswhompuss Member Posts: 737 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks for this posting. I am copying it sending to my conservative friends. Some often ask why I buy .223 green tips in 1,000 bulk.
    Sad to say the day may come.[:(!]
  • Aaron.Combs1Aaron.Combs1 Member Posts: 217 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    :) we have plenty of those over here in Iraq [8D]
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Aaron.Combs1
    + 1 who is the author if this piece?

    One of them is the leader of the Indiana Militia. He is also the secretary of the third continential congress. Highball might like to know that the third continential congress also is bringing all militias together, openly to boot. [:D] I knew I was not the only one to think the militia should openly exist in the public eye, not behind CLOSED doors. It is however a SLOW process.
  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 31,157 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Please explain why on this one;
    That all American members of Bilderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and other globalist combinations be arrested, indicted, and tried for Treason.
  • Wagon WheelWagon Wheel Member Posts: 633 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    bpost 1958:

    That's a No Brainer if you are familiar with any of them. Google each and it will become obvious, OR there is plenty about them posted on the "Sticky".

    OBTW: There are others that should have been added to that list!!!
  • whompusswhompuss Member Posts: 737 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Aaron.Combs1
    :) we have plenty of those over here in Iraq [8D]


    Yes, I know, my youngest son is there now. He e mails often but can't give any details. His last e mail ended with "gotta go Pops, we have orders to spend some time on the rifle range today.[}:)][}:)]

    ps: action must be really up. I was getting Lake City green tips for
    $249/1,000 in bulk, price shot up to $379. Keep it up guys!
  • sariwat1sariwat1 Member Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree 100 percent. There is overwhelming evidence of misconduct by government. So many people have been warning us, we just haven't listen.

    I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world - no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. - Woodrow Wilson

    "Today Americans would be outraged if U. N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
    - at 5/21/92 Bilderberg Conference in Evian, France
  • Dangerous TDangerous T Member Posts: 119 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I agree. However, let us not forget that Militias have been greatly infiltrated by FBI and other groups. I remember a skid from a Saturday night live. A militia meeting, at one point one of the people stands up and says "FBI, you are all under arrest." at which point EVERYONE in the group shows up and flashes their own badges.
    If I were you, I would be VERY careful about what you say and what you do in Militia. You risk being declared an enemy combatant and tossed into Guantanamo prison, or being "accidentally" shot during the arrest.
    Be CAREFUL what to say and to whom you say it. Remember, the "Big brother" is watching.

    "Up here in space
    I'm looking down on you.
    My lasers trace
    Everything you do.
    You think you've private lives
    Think nothing of the kind.
    There is no true escape
    I'm watching all the time.
    I'm made of metal
    My circuits gleam.

    I am perpetual
    I keep the country clean.
    I'm elected electric spy
    I protected electric eye.

    Always in focus
    You can't feel my stare.
    I zoom into you
    You don't know I'm there.
    I take a pride in probing all your secret moves
    My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove.

    Electric eye, in the sky
    Feel my stare, always there
    's nothing you can do about it.
    Develop and expose
    I feed upon your every thought
    And so my power grows.
    Protected. Detective. Electric eye."

    You know what is scary? When Heavy Metal songs come true. This was written in 1989 by Judas Priest.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    T,
    they are watching everyone. What, should I hide under a rock? NO! I don't give a fig for what they want to do to me, BRING IT ON!
  • Dangerous TDangerous T Member Posts: 119 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by freemind
    T,
    they are watching everyone. What, should I hide under a rock? NO! I don't give a fig for what they want to do to me, BRING IT ON!


    Yes, they are watching you, you better believe it. They have capability to scan your emails, tap your phones, trace your money. Capabilities that would make KGB abd Stazi green with envy. They also have the "Patriot act" that allows them to use everything as they see fit. Without oversight, without a warrant.
    I am not saying that you should hide. All I am saying that you should be very CAREFUL of what you say and very MINDFUL to whom you say it, and very RESPONSIBLE on WHERE you say it.
  • Marc1301Marc1301 Member Posts: 31,822 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Very good post!

    Our forefathers acknowledged that whenever government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and establish a new government; laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Liberty, safety and happiness.

    And that is the part that the government SHOULD be afraid of,.......but they have gone beyond that. They know that the majority will continue to watch American Idol, and all the other nonsense.
    They will continue to become obese, eating their Big Macs, and by the time it is realized that something is very wrong,..........it will be too late.
    We have 12 to 20 million new voters coming on the scene soon, that will displace the pathetic voting percentages that WE, have usually managed to bring out.
    It is a "bright" new world coming for us folks![}:)]
    "Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life down here." - William Shatner
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    My first time on GB in about 2 months....and I find this post !

    Makes me smile to see the militia is still going strong !!

    To Arms ! To arms !!

    I have been out of commission, lost my job of 17 years.
    I just landed a better job and start on Monday. Better times are ahead for me. I had to sell off a few things but managed to keep every firearm I own. (I only own 1 firearm by the way)
    Abort Cuomo
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    Missed your imput, NY;

    Welcome back...and congratulations on making lemonaide out of your troubles.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    Glad to hear all is well for you NY.

    The freedom movement, like anything else, never seems to move fast enough.

    You only have one gun too? I bet I have you beat though, I have only one cartridge. [:o)]
  • nyforesternyforester Member Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thank you gentlemen for the kind words.....
    Abort Cuomo
  • clfergyclfergy Member Posts: 62 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not that my opinion matters a whole lot, but I agree.
    I'm sure that I will never see Americans fighting [again] for their beliefs as our government is ever so strong now.
    We would not be taking arms up against a tyrannical king across the ocean but right here at home.
    Our government has demonstrated its complete disregard of its citizens.
    More like a virus, the bloated hogs in Wash, D.C. will continue to consume it's host until all life eradicated.
    Just like the petroleum companies raising fuel prices just because it can. (I guess if I owned stock in that particular industry I would be happy too..right g.w.b.??) Fuel is not a want, in todays society, it is a basic necessity.
    Ok. That's my opinion.
    BTW, sign me up. Send me info on how to be a part of...
  • gunphreakgunphreak Member Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can usually find something they missed, the same way people who look over what I have printed can usually do the same....

    I cannot in this instance.

    And they're right... about all of it....
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by clfergy

    BTW, sign me up. Send me info on how to be a part of...


    You allready are. Any citizen, whom is serious about their duty to God, Country, and familiy are alleady members of the militia. I doubt however that any group would accept you in (for legal reasons) and allow you to train, unless that training excluded firearms. I know in order to be more than a "reserve" member of my state militia, you must have a clean record.
  • HighballHighball Member Posts: 15,755
    edited November -1
    clfergy;
    Don't sweat it. Push comes to shove ..the content of a mans' character supersedes the rap sheet he has under present law.

    You would be welcomed as a brother if you understand and follow the original post by Freemind.
    I cannot help you in your present predicament ..the criminals that are running the system are beyond reach.and beyond redemption.
    The best I can offer is to live the best life you can, within the framework of the bucket of crap you have been offered.

    See ..whatever you did ..under a system of justice that was just.you would have served your time under hard labor.
    The day you were released you would have been handed your .45 and instructed to `go forth and sin no more'..
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by Highball
    clfergy;
    Don't sweat it. Push comes to shove ..the content of a mans' character supersedes the rap sheet he has under present law.

    You would be welcomed as a brother if you understand and follow the original post by Freemind.
    I cannot help you in your present predicament ..the criminals that are running the system are beyond reach.and beyond redemption.
    The best I can offer is to live the best life you can, within the framework of the bucket of crap you have been offered.

    See ..whatever you did ..under a system of justice that was just.you would have served your time under hard labor.
    The day you were released you would have been handed your .45 and instructed to `go forth and sin no more'..



    +1
  • triple223taptriple223tap Member Posts: 385 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    They have imposed upon us, without our consent,

    Ah, but that's just the probelm. It hasn't been "without our consent".

    Our govenrment hasn't been taken over by coup, or by insurrection, or by force. It has been taken over by the rule of law - laws enacted by the people we have chosen, by majority vote. "Our" people.

    As Pogo said - "We have met the enemy and it is us."

    Do you want to stop and reverse this? You can. It's simple. Vote smarter.

    When you vote for a one-issue candidate, when you vote for a hate-mongering candidate, when you vote for an ignorant candidate, when you vote for a divisive candidate, when you vote for a partisan candidate, when you vote for an incompetent candidate...then you are the cause of the problem.
  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by triple223tap
    They have imposed upon us, without our consent,

    Ah, but that's just the probelm. It hasn't been "without our consent".

    Our govenrment hasn't been taken over by coup, or by insurrection, or by force. It has been taken over by the rule of law - laws enacted by the people we have chosen, by majority vote. "Our" people.

    As Pogo said - "We have met the enemy and it is us."

    Do you want to stop and reverse this? You can. It's simple. Vote smarter.

    When you vote for a one-issue candidate, when you vote for a hate-mongering candidate, when you vote for an ignorant candidate, when you vote for a divisive candidate, when you vote for a partisan candidate, when you vote for an incompetent candidate...then you are the cause of the problem.



    Uh huh. It matters NOT which you vote for, they ARE all corrupt. So it's not about researching your vote better, but it IS about cleaning house. You wouldn't understand.

    They (politicians) are in it for their own self-interests. You can vote whomever you like, by they WILL do as they want. They DO NOT represent the people. The problem lays that WAY TOO MANY people are passive. As history will demonstrate though, the peoples paitience is running out. Wait and see after the next election, and the burdens we will be saddled with. People are allready screaming "uncle" at the end of the week. It will only get increasingly worse.
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