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What do we do if Obama gets into office?
Mk23
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Anyone have a plan of action for if/when that happens?
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Anyone have a plan of action for if/when that happens?
Plan of action?
Pretty much the same as it ever was, I guess
Things will get much uglier before they get better and "WE THE PEOPLE" are the ones that will have to make it better. It is not bad enough yet, and we are just not peed off enough. When gas, food, and medicine become rationed will be the time when the people overthrow the criminals in the whitehouse.
Obviously it'll be very difficult to motivate us conservatives to assemble a well-armed militia to defend our rights and take back our country. Hell, we can't even get the conservatives to vote, much less pick up a 5 lbs rifle to defend our families. The damn liberals are ready and willing at the drop of a hat to run into the streets and protest gun laws and support gay rights. But when it comes to conservatives protesting the erotion of civil rights, we'll just let somebody else do it cause ... we need to change the oil in our weedeater! As far as a plan ... well, I have corn and watermelon seeds to plant, cattle to slaughter if need be, and plenty of ammo if the nation turns on its head.
You asked ...
quote:Originally posted by RogueStatesman
Here's my view on it;
Obviously it'll be very difficult to motivate us conservatives to assemble a well-armed militia to defend our rights and take back our country. Hell, we can't even get the conservatives to vote, much less pick up a 5 lbs rifle to defend our families. The damn liberals are ready and willing at the drop of a hat to run into the streets and protest gun laws and support gay rights. But when it comes to conservatives protesting the erotion of civil rights, we'll just let somebody else do it cause ... we need to change the oil in our weedeater! As far as a plan ... well, I have corn and watermelon seeds to plant, cattle to slaughter if need be, and plenty of ammo if the nation turns on its head.
You asked ...
He is just a man, even if he is elected president. He cannot just pound his fist on a lectern, burn the Constitution, imprison the Supreme Court, and pass State and Federal law
A much better question is:
"Why don't we stop waiting around for the perfect candidate, and start to get our government working for the People and by the People again?"
We might begin by MAKING local schools teach Civics again, so kids grow up with an idea of how the country works, instead of the vast majority of kids having no clue and not caring
If we were to wait for the perfect candidate to answer all our dreams and wishes, then we have a long wait. But anyway, the Executive is one branch, not the US Federal and State government. I agree it's time to start looking hard at what's going on, but it's hardly time to panic and stock up on ammo
. I agree it's time to start looking hard at what's going on, but it's hardly time to panic and stock up on ammo
Uh, yeah right.
You just go ahead and DON'T stock up on anything. Then when SHTF, you can stand there holding your nuts, wondering what has just happened.
Only a FOOL does NOT prepare for the future. If you can't see clearly what has happened, and what the future LIKELY holds, I have no pitty for you when it is too late. See, people like you don't realize that our turning point has LONG passed us. We are ALLREADY on the downhill side of things, and picking up speed at an enormous pace. It is only a LITTLE socialism, and a LITTLE tyranny right? Or better yet, as LT496 coins it, "collectivism". And he IS 100% correct.
"Never before, in the history of the world, have a people EVER voted themselves OUT of tyranny." THAT, sir, is a true and WISE statement.
Nothing short of a revolution, will ever change things here in the USA. Politicians are no longer SERVANTS of the people. They, in their twisted logic, belive WE are their servants. And because people refuse to resist, in reality we are. Until people OPEN their eyes, and look at those HUGE chains they wear, and actually Do something about it, it is just business as usual here in Amerika.
So, you just go ahead and cast your vote for which ever turd pleases you. Nothing will change.
Well, since you're so free in your statements, you should know that it's my opinion that you didn't read two words in ten that I just posted, freemind, becasue I didn't say anything about how ANY of these candidates would be good or bad, and I also mentioned that the president can't just go changing things on his own. So I can't imagine what point you're trying to make here, friend.
You think a bad crop of presidential hopefuls and some high gas prices mean a bleak, no-return America in which you need a stockpile of ammo? Big Bad Obama's gonna grab your guns? Maybe your hound-dog, too. Definitely your sister, right? Can't have one of "them" coming to dinner, am I right, or am I right? Liberals, I mean
Well by all means, be that crazy guy. Build a cabin in the woods and make yourself a plywood girlfriend while you're at it; it's a free country and you're free to do that. Drown yourself in your negative attitudes and mutter about how it used to be. While you seem to dislike allowing me my opinions, I certainly will never stand in the way of allowing you to have your crackpot standpoint, because in case you never knew it, that's what America is all about. It makes you a flipping space cowboy in my opinion to feel as you do but hey, be whatever it is you want to be, and if anyone says you can't, I'll be the first one in line to pop that jerk one for you. I support your right to have that viewpoint even though I think it's stupid and close-minded, let alone defeatist. if you want to give up on the USA, knock yourself out. Even though it appears you have no confidence in our country I still think you should enjoy the freedoms you are enjoying.
Your signature is very ironic, in light of your statements. Maybe you should think about changing it
I do however require that you allow me to have my opinion, too. otherwise you can go pound sand
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive. If you think the government will tell you to start stock piling supplies at any specific time, you are a bigger fool than I give you credit for.
Oh and by the way....you are behind the eight ball already.
And when the crap storm is here, don't come knock'in on my door !!
I am not giving anything away except hot screaming lead !
Stay away from "personal" insults.
Blair
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive.
Nonsense. The thing to note is who is stockpiling now then when the SHTF go and knock them off and take their stuff. It helps if you can lull them into a sense of camaraderie and trust. Much easier to pull the rug out from under them then.
quote:Originally posted by nyforester
Blair
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive.
Nonsense. The thing to note is who is stockpiling now then when the SHTF go and knock them off and take their stuff. It helps if you can lull them into a sense of camaraderie and trust. Much easier to pull the rug out from under them then.
What? You think a wise man keeps all his good by his side?
I am no fool. I trust NO-ONE. I and ME alone know where supplies are located.
Those who MAKE things happen
Those who WATCH things happen
and
Those who wonder WHAT happened!
either hand in your guns or become an outlaw
I would rather be an outlaw than a slithering slug !
Here's my view on it;
Obviously it'll be very difficult to motivate us conservatives to assemble a well-armed militia to defend our rights and take back our country. Hell, we can't even get the conservatives to vote, much less pick up a 5 lbs rifle to defend our families. The damn liberals are ready and willing at the drop of a hat to run into the streets and protest gun laws and support gay rights. But when it comes to conservatives protesting the erotion of civil rights, we'll just let somebody else do it cause ... we need to change the oil in our weedeater! As far as a plan ... well, I have corn and watermelon seeds to plant, cattle to slaughter if need be, and plenty of ammo if the nation turns on its head.
You asked ...
Conservitive politicans to not care about your rights, just their profits (not jebus but $$$)
Have fun trying to get your corn to produce without a tank of nitrate
Fortunately, if Obama is elected, the jack-booted thugs are not thawed out from their block of ice automatically
He is just a man, even if he is elected president. He cannot just pound his fist on a lectern, burn the Constitution, imprison the Supreme Court, and pass State and Federal law
A much better question is:
"Why don't we stop waiting around for the perfect candidate, and start to get our government working for the People and by the People again?"
We might begin by MAKING local schools teach Civics again, so kids grow up with an idea of how the country works, instead of the vast majority of kids having no clue and not caring
If we were to wait for the perfect candidate to answer all our dreams and wishes, then we have a long wait. But anyway, the Executive is one branch, not the US Federal and State government. I agree it's time to start looking hard at what's going on, but it's hardly time to panic and stock up on ammo
Here Here, I totally agree but would love to take it further. I think you should have to pass the citizenship exam before being allowed to posses a drivers license.
quote:Originally posted by Blairweescot
Fortunately, if Obama is elected, the jack-booted thugs are not thawed out from their block of ice automatically
He is just a man, even if he is elected president. He cannot just pound his fist on a lectern, burn the Constitution, imprison the Supreme Court, and pass State and Federal law
A much better question is:
"Why don't we stop waiting around for the perfect candidate, and start to get our government working for the People and by the People again?"
We might begin by MAKING local schools teach Civics again, so kids grow up with an idea of how the country works, instead of the vast majority of kids having no clue and not caring
If we were to wait for the perfect candidate to answer all our dreams and wishes, then we have a long wait. But anyway, the Executive is one branch, not the US Federal and State government. I agree it's time to start looking hard at what's going on, but it's hardly time to panic and stock up on ammo
Here Here, I totally agree but would love to take it further. I think you should have to pass the citizenship exam before being allowed to posses a drivers license.
And an intelligence test in order to vote.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance....
Thats too dang expensive!
quote:Originally posted by gunphreak
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance....
Thats too dang expensive!
I think we both know that....
Sad....
quote:Originally posted by springman
quote:Originally posted by Blairweescot
Fortunately, if Obama is elected, the jack-booted thugs are not thawed out from their block of ice automatically
He is just a man, even if he is elected president. He cannot just pound his fist on a lectern, burn the Constitution, imprison the Supreme Court, and pass State and Federal law
A much better question is:
"Why don't we stop waiting around for the perfect candidate, and start to get our government working for the People and by the People again?"
We might begin by MAKING local schools teach Civics again, so kids grow up with an idea of how the country works, instead of the vast majority of kids having no clue and not caring
If we were to wait for the perfect candidate to answer all our dreams and wishes, then we have a long wait. But anyway, the Executive is one branch, not the US Federal and State government. I agree it's time to start looking hard at what's going on, but it's hardly time to panic and stock up on ammo
Here Here, I totally agree but would love to take it further. I think you should have to pass the citizenship exam before being allowed to posses a drivers license.
And an intelligence test in order to vote.
Let me get this straight....
Prove you are a citizen to get a piece of Identification... Hmmm that sounds reasonable. The whole ability to drive is a little retarded.
Intelligence test to vote. Totally unrelated. Showing citizenship to vote would be a reasonable game plan, though..
Personally, I still don't like the idea of socioparasites voting, because A. They do not contribute to the system, and B. Because they should not have a say where the rest of us are taxed. A stay at home wife whose husband is productive, that's one thing... a professional couch potato, that's something else...
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
quote:Originally posted by nyforester
Blair
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive.
Nonsense. The thing to note is who is stockpiling now then when the SHTF go and knock them off and take their stuff. It helps if you can lull them into a sense of camaraderie and trust. Much easier to pull the rug out from under them then.
What? You think a wise man keeps all his good by his side?
I am no fool. I trust NO-ONE. I and ME alone know where supplies are located.
Ha,
That is what you tell yourself. The first thing any wise man does when he discovers the hiding spots of a "wise" man is keep his mouth shut. You have no idea whether your secret is kept or not. You will not know until it is too late either.
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
quote:Originally posted by nyforester
Blair
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive.
Nonsense. The thing to note is who is stockpiling now then when the SHTF go and knock them off and take their stuff. It helps if you can lull them into a sense of camaraderie and trust. Much easier to pull the rug out from under them then.
What? You think a wise man keeps all his good by his side?
I am no fool. I trust NO-ONE. I and ME alone know where supplies are located.
Ha,
That is what you tell yourself. The first thing any wise man does when he discovers the hiding spots of a "wise" man is keep his mouth shut. You have no idea whether your secret is kept or not. You will not know until it is too late either.
Well, if you think you have what it takes to "knock me off" go ahead and try it. Bet I win.
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
quote:Originally posted by freemind
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
quote:Originally posted by nyforester
Blair
What Freemind was trying to tell you is that you need to stock pile supplies now.....because when the crap hits the fan blades, you will be unable to gather the supplies you need to survive.
Nonsense. The thing to note is who is stockpiling now then when the SHTF go and knock them off and take their stuff. It helps if you can lull them into a sense of camaraderie and trust. Much easier to pull the rug out from under them then.
What? You think a wise man keeps all his good by his side?
I am no fool. I trust NO-ONE. I and ME alone know where supplies are located.
Ha,
That is what you tell yourself. The first thing any wise man does when he discovers the hiding spots of a "wise" man is keep his mouth shut. You have no idea whether your secret is kept or not. You will not know until it is too late either.
Well, if you think you have what it takes to "knock me off" go ahead and try it. Bet I win.
Hmmm? What exactly is it you think you will win? A puffing contest? What makes you think I would even want to bother with you and your stuff. There is much better to be had. Even you know that.
Hmmm? What exactly is it you think you will win? A puffing contest? What makes you think I would even want to bother with you and your stuff. There is much better to be had. Even you know that.
No, I think I would win the fight and leave your corpse to the vultures.
See it is people JUST LIKE YOU, that I have no use for. As soon as a situation goes sour, the first thing you want to do is rob, murder, and rape your fellow citizens.
When you make moronic statement like you did, you make it clear that, not even for a second, should we trust ANYONE.
Even IF you ment your statement as humor, the underlying truth is, you would do just as you said. Murder and rob.
quote:Originally posted by chaoslodge
Hmmm? What exactly is it you think you will win? A puffing contest? What makes you think I would even want to bother with you and your stuff. There is much better to be had. Even you know that.
No, I think I would win the fight and leave your corpse to the vultures.
See it is people JUST LIKE YOU, that I have no use for. As soon as a situation goes sour, the first thing you want to do is rob, murder, and rape your fellow citizens.
When you make moronic statement like you did, you make it clear that, not even for a second, should we trust ANYONE.
Even IF you ment your statement as humor, the underlying truth is, you would do just as you said. Murder and rob.
It called SURVIVE. Morality is a luxury. One you will not be able to afford. And what fight are you talking about? You seem have some pretty solid assumptions. A direct fight is for idiots. There are far easier and less risky ways to do away with an adversary. Again what makes you think anyone is going to put any effort into you or your stuff, when there is better to be had. What is it you have that is so prized?
It called SURVIVE. Morality is a luxury. One you will not be able to afford. And what fight are you talking about? You seem have some pretty solid assumptions. A direct fight is for idiots. There are far easier and less risky ways to do away with an adversary.
No, it isn't called survival. It is called MURDER and ROBBERY.
Morality is NEVER a luxury. You either HAVE morals or you don't. You obviously DON'T. In a life or death situation, you REALLY think the people that are smart enough to prepare, aren't prepared for the likes of you?
And your right, it WON'T be hand to hand combat. Murdering, robbing, raping scum, will be dead long before they get their chance. It is the people that are intellegent enough to prepare that are the hunters, not people like you that *think* your a hunter.
But, what can you expect from a guy who was a cokehead? You obviously learned nothing. You still walk around with the chip on your shoulder. Still thinking the world owes you something, even if you have to take it.
Murdering, robbing, raping scum, will be dead long before they get their chance.
Sounds like it is going to be hard to tell the difference between whatever it is you think you are and the Murdering, robbing, raping scum. You must have some old book or something that will guide you. I know there is an excellent one that teaches one how to do all those things in the name of god.
The world owes me nothing. I owe it nothing. Its all about me.
You are funny. Don't hurt your back burying your gold and building your bunker.
Cooled down?
Sure am. [:D]
Sorry.
Cooled down?
You should know by now I am a s*^t stirrer. [:D]
Freemind,
I have more of a moral compass than I like to let on. I am an * but in the end, I am on your side.
Peace.
quote:Originally posted by pickenup
Cooled down?
You should know by now I am a s*^t stirrer. [:D]
Freemind,
I have more of a moral compass than I like to let on. I am an * but in the end, I am on your side.
Peace.
Peace it is.