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remington power piston shell

peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
Trying to find shotshell reloading specs for Remington Power Piston, 12 gauge plastic shell. Its not in Lyman's reloading book. I'm new to reloading shot gun but have several of these shells, I would like to reload for my grandson. Thanks for any help.

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  • geeguygeeguy Member Posts: 1,047
    edited November -1
    What type powder do you have and we can work on a load. For target purpose any 209 primer, PP wad (or a Win style will work), and ___ grs. of XX (tell us the components you already have).

    For target.
    17.5 gr. 700X, or Clays works for about everything.
    (thought you bought a 20 ga.??)

    Need more info.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mostly just have pistol type powders. Have win. 231, accuarate #2, Hercles 2400, Tight Groupe, Red dot, Unique, power pistol, and Imr trail boss.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I did buy a 20ga, but ran across a Mec 12 ga reloader at a yard sell for $35.00 and though I would reload some 12's for my grand son. What about buying a 20 gauge conversion for the Mec, anyone change back and forth from 12 to 20. Looks like it would be a lot of trouble.
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Never heard of power piston shell, wads yes. Usually shells are grouped in families by construction. Spend more time to figure out the proper group or go to a range and buy some once fired AA's. Larger clubs sell supplies and often have people reloading.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Remington Peters Power Piston, green plastic with ridges. 2 3/4". Don't know how old but about a hundred of these came with the Mec reloader. These have a plastic base wad, so can't be too old.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I also have 7 1/2 shot.
  • bambambambambambam Member Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/recipedetail.aspx?shotype=&weight=1.125&weightdis=1+1/8&shellid=492>ypeid=3&gauge=12

    Look in here for Alliant powder.

    http://data.hodgdon.com/shotshell_load.asp

    Here for Hodgdon powder

    Red Dot is a good powder for low recoil target loads.

    I use any combo of these for my target loads:

    Hull: Win AA, Rem STS, Gun Club
    Primer: Win 209
    Wad: WT12, WAA12
    Shot: 6, 7 1/2
    Powder: Red Dot 17.5-18.0gr

    I use Green dot for a little faster. I just loaded 400 shells# 6 last night just to get rid of some Unique I bought for .357.(burns dirty & rather clean out of shotgun barrel than my GP-100)

    My heavy 1 1/4oz loads I use Hodgdon LongShot 28gr. with a WAA12F114 equivialent wad.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    So if I understand correctly, I do not need to use my Remington Peters power piston hulls, if I can not find some load data for that hull. Is that correct?
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There is good chance that the press was set up run the shells that came with it. 6 or 8 point crimp work best with the correct starter. Pull the powder bushing or bar and look up the number.

    AA's were the hull of choice. I have some Uplands with hi brass that take the same load but are 6 pt.

    I load my AA's as shot mags 3 3/4 DE, 1 1/4 of shot or slug.
  • geeguygeeguy Member Posts: 1,047
    edited November -1
    Ped: Use the hulls you have, shot you have, wads you have, add a 209 primer (any type)and the Red Dot load from BamBam, it will be a fine light target load.

    I have used about every type plastic hull the last 40 years and found it doesn't seem to make much difference in pattern, just what you like and maybe how many loads you get out of them. 12 ga. hulls are really available at most ranges for free (look in the trash cans).

    Conversion of the MEC is simple and takes less then 15 minutes. Lots of used equipment on the market so put an ad in the "wanted" area if you can't find one on GB already.

    Shotgun is the easiest thing to load, so if your already doing pistol this will be a snap.
  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The first thing I would do is see if I could seat a primer.
    An OLD Remington shell would require the obsolete #57 primer instead of the common #209. The #57 is smaller diameter.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks to all that have replied. I am still confused, Lymans shotshell reloading book says to not ever change anything when reloading shotgun shells, always use the published data, Now some of you say to use so and so with any plastic shell. Got a $1200.00 gun and do not want to damage anything or myself.
  • charliemeyer007charliemeyer007 Member Posts: 6,572 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    The safe way is to follow the book. No clue what they cost now but once fired AA's were a nickel each. Some of mine were reloaded 25 or so times before they made their last trip.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
  • geeguygeeguy Member Posts: 1,047
    edited November -1
    Ped: It's always best to follow the book. After a couple hundred thousand reloads over 40+ Years most of us know what works as well as some of the books. If it's a plastic hull most likely it takes a 209 primer, if not throw them out and go to a range and pick up hulls out of the trash for free (so many available it's nuts to buy them). With a 1-1/8 oz. load of just about any shotgun powder it's a light target load. With a plastic wad there's not to much of a chance of hurting your gun. (IMHO)

    So my free "advise" is to find a load in your book you like and THEN get the exact components. You started out trying to load on the cheap with what you had and got some good safe information. Can't have it both ways. So start out exact until you feel comfortable.
  • peddlerpeddler Member Posts: 881 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Will do, thanks
  • MobuckMobuck Member Posts: 14,161 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    There's another guy on here looking for some of those older Rem hulls to use up some #57 primers he has. You guys need to get together.
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