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Outside neck turner

OregunnerOregunner Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
Can anyone recommend an outside case neck turner? I tried the search function & came up blank. I have a Forster case trimmer & I know there is an adaptor for it but I've never seen one or talked to anyone who had used one. Would that be the way to go or is there a better way? I asked when I called Dillon yesterday but they don't carry outside neck turners, (which surprised me considerably). Thanks,

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    K&M is the one I use. Hart makes one as well as sinclair. The sinclair tools are very well made tools too. www.sinclairintl.com
  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    I like my K&M turner better than any of them, the carbide cutter with the doughtnut remover is a plus.
    Very easy to adjust, and repeatable to boot.

    717-292-3176 ask for Ken.

    Give him a call he will send you one, and then you can pay for it, he's a good guy no doubt about that, and makes some really usefull tools for the reloader.
  • jonkjonk Member Posts: 10,121
    edited November -1
    Well I use a Lyman, but only b/c it fits onto their trimmer, which I already had; it works ok but you have to get it adjusted just right or it crumples necks.
  • OregunnerOregunner Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks very much guys. After looking over my options I'm wondering if I really need an outside neck turner or if an inside neck reamer would suffice for my needs. I'm not a serious benchrest guy, I mostly hunt varmints, deer & elk (although I do enjoy poking holes in paper sometimes). I'm primarily concerned about the case necks becoming thicker than they should on my 22-250 brass after one or two trimmings, as well as the necks on my .308 Norma brass that I make from various other cartridges. As soon as my new 7-30 Waters barrel arrives I'd like to control the case neck thickness for them as well, especially if I decide to form some from 30-30 brass, (which I probably will at some point). I see that Forster has inside neck reamers that are simple & relatively inexpensive, do you think that would serve me needs rather than the outside neck turner? Thanks again,
  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    inside neck reamers will only control the "dohnut" that forms at the shoulder/nk junction from the brass flowing fwd. The beauty of the K&M is that the mandral for turning the outside of the necks can be ordered with the carbide cutter end, so it also removes any dohnut at the same time[;)] If you have sloping body calibers which will thicken necks, then turning may be of benefit for you. If they thicken, and you use the same dies each time, you will run into a situation where NK tension increases due to the thicker necks.

    Anything with a tight nk or min spec chamber can usually be made more accurate at longer ranges by uniforming the necks for consistent nk tension aroung the entire bearing surface of the bullet.

    turning nks is a bit of a PITA, but if you enjoy the science, simply making your nks uniform is a sort of satisfaction even if your chamber won't benefit greatly. I do it to keep uniform nks, even in factory chambers on guns I like to use for longer shots. I feel it DOES show up as the distance increases, even in a factory gun.

    variances in nk wall thickness creates runout and uneven nk tension. BOTH of which are detrimental to accuracy, even if the distance being used makes it hard for the human eye to differentiate that. I just like things a certain way, so I turn necks. A LOT of bench shooting is confidence in your components, so every step to ensure confidence is one well taken.

    "My name is JustC, and I am an * retentive rifle owner"[:0]
  • Ray BRay B Member Posts: 11,822
    edited November -1
    Forster makes an inside trimmer that fits your case trimmer. Redding also makes such products and I am very pleased with their quality.
  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    It will be a lot easier to take off .005 from a neck with a K&M cutter and have it under control than to use a inside reamer from Forster that has a set diameter.
    Of course for about $35.00 they will make one for your specs.

    The K&M is totally adjustable for any amount you want to turn off your necks.
  • OregunnerOregunner Member Posts: 129 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate your input. I'll take the material off the outside of the necks. I'll order a primer pocket reamer at the same time. Thanks!
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