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Varget powder........

bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 2007 in Perry Shooter Competition Shooting and Reloading Forum
Loaded up some 243's today with Varget. Found that it didn't meter as well as H380 or BLC2 through the powder measure. Hopefully it will shoot good.
JM[:(]
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have found that 4895 performs well in the .243 winchester. Varget may not meter as well as some ball powders but it sure seems to shoot good in the .243 class of cases. Hope you like the results on paper.
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  • mikecarol63mikecarol63 Member Posts: 336 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have been using 4895 for .243 since I started reloading, (about 6 months now), and I am very pleased with the results. I can split the holes in the paper, and I have never done that before. I figure, don't mess with a good thing. Mike.
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4895 has even bigger particles than Varget. Won't meter as well.
    JM
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  • BHAVINBHAVIN Member Posts: 3,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    No it doesn't meter as well but I have had great accuacy in 22-250, .243 and .308 with it. It is also nice becasue heat doesn't effect accuracy like it does with some older powders. I also like being able to shoot three (or more) calibers with one powder.
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I guess I just prefer ball type powders. I don't like to hear the powder measure cut the granules as I dump the charge.
    JM
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  • Colonel PlinkColonel Plink Member Posts: 16,460
    edited November -1
    I like the results I get from Varget. It also forces me to be very patient whilst reloading. (Jaysus, did I just say "whilst"?!! What the hell?! Jeff Cooper! I'm channelling for Jeff Cooper!)
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bgjohn
    I guess I just prefer ball type powders. I don't like to hear the powder measure cut the granules as I dump the charge.
    JM


    One sign of a successful powder is if the Bench Rest guys use it. They would spend $500.00 bucks a pound if it gave them smaller groups. Very few bench rest shooters use ball powders. Varget and VV powders seem to be consumed by the ton. It is a rare occasion to see ball powders listed on the winners list.

    Just my observation.
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  • rovernutrovernut Member Posts: 256 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    It's the best in my M-1A, but jams my Dillion 550.
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    4/10's of a grain variation from my powder measure. THAT sucks! With ball powder (H380) I get zero variation from that powder measure. I won't be buying Varget again. Life is too short to use powder that sucks! [:(!]
    JM[V]
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Life is too short to use a manual powder thrower,........keep it as a backup and buy a digital dispensor. NOW you can use whatever powder you want.[8D]

    OR,..replace your thrower with a Harrel,..that will throw Varget and any other large grain powder.
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    Life is too short to use a manual powder thrower,........keep it as a backup and buy a digital dispensor. NOW you can use whatever powder you want.[8D]

    OR,..replace your thrower with a Harrel,..that will throw Varget and any other large grain powder.


    I have heard that the digitals are tempreture sensitive (they drift). I think I'll stick with what I have and use BALL POWDER.
    JM
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine stays plugged in at all times on a surge strip,.....no drift, no crazy throws. Weigh the same bullet every day and you get the same reading[;)] I think my PACT unit has been one of the very best additions to my load bench.

    the older original units had some issues,..but those days are all but gone now,..the new units utilize much better software.
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  • bgjohnbgjohn Member Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Finally made it to the range to test my Varget loads. I had loads for the 243 using BLC2, H380 and Varget. The first two shots with Varget were in the same ragged hole @ 100 yards. The third shot was about 1" away frome the other two. So much for that group.

    With Varget loads in the 204 Ruger, they were all over the place. I won't be buying Varget again. I'll shoot it up in the 243.
    JM[V]
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  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    I use more Varget than any other powder, but H-4350 is pretty close.
    But then I have no problem weighing each and every charge on a RCBS 90, and it never seems to drift.
    I hate ball powders anyway 'O )
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  • temblortemblor Member Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by mrbruce
    I use more Varget than any other powder, but H-4350 is pretty close.
    But then I have no problem weighing each and every charge on a RCBS 90, and it never seems to drift.
    I hate ball powders anyway 'O )


    [:D][:D].

    bgjohn,
    If you hand trickle Varget, or use a digital dispenser, it usually gives great results. It just won't meter thru a powder measure as well as a ball powder because of the physical difference. If you want to just drop from a measure you probably are better off using ball powders for consistance.

    PS = I wouldn't worry about the digital powder dispensers being temp. sensitive near as much as I would be worried about those Ball Powders being temp. sensitive. They vary greatly in pressure different weather.
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