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powder question

KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
edited August 2007 in Perry Shooter Competition Shooting and Reloading Forum
I started reloading late this spring and noticed something strange:

I am using hogdon titegroup and CCI primers to reload .45 ACP,
my rounds are now extremely dirty. I haven't had to clean that much carbon out of my gun and off my hands since I used Wolf ammo.

Is titegroup just a dirty powder or am I doing something wrong?
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Who makes a powder named XMP 5744 it is listed in my speer #13 manual but I cant find anyone that has used it ...... any help would be appreciated..

    Thanks David.
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    What powder does Hornady use in the 7mm factory loads? Or what would best duplicate it?
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is there such a thing as a universal powder for 38,41 and 44? Trying to keep the powder selection down to the basics if possible. I currently have H110, unique and 2400 on hand. Thanks.

    Todd
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    When you finish loading for a day or two, How long do you leave the powder in the dispenser. I have a lock and load hornady press with an auto powder feeder and was wondering how long i can lleave the powder in it. Sometimes i load a few then quit for a few days because of my health. thanks
    JW
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Would someone please recommend a powder that would be serviceable for both 9mm and 45acp, and another that would be serviceable for both .223 and .308?

    Thanks in advance.
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I haven't started to reload yet but have most of the equipment. With the equipment I bought I recieved 3 cans of IMR-4831. I was reading an old Lyman book (copyright 1982) and couldn't find any referance to this powder. I have another reloading book but haven't had time to get to it. Is this a newer powder ? I'm thinking of loading 22 Hornet, 222, 223, 257, 308 and 7mm Mag. Is there an "interchange" or cross referance for powder.
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are IMR4350 and H4350 the same powder.
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    hello, i have a few cans of older powder and was trying to fiqure out the particulars on them, like what this powder should be use for. have one can of hercules 2400. on the can is says rifle powder, although someone told me that this is for pistols? got one can of dupont SR-4756, and a can of SR-7625. not sure if these powders are still available. if not, what might they be eqivilant to todays powder?
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    how much crimp?
    Low charge weight for that powder making low pressure?
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  • KSUmarksmanKSUmarksman Member Posts: 10,705 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    how much crimp?
    Low charge weight for that powder making low pressure?


    Last batch I put a half turn crimp with a lee die.
    Shouldn't be low charge, I use 4.4 grains as per the instructions for a 230gr. FMJ, never exceed is 4.8
    Should I work up closer to max, like 4.7 grains and see if that improves performance?
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  • BHAVINBHAVIN Member Posts: 3,490 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    I shoot alot of Titegroup and find it to be one of the cleanest powders compared to W231 and many others. I shoot 5.2g with 200g jacketed bullets in my .45's. You might experiment with a little heavier charge but I suspect your crimp may need to be a little heavier. Rule of thumb I was taught is .0002-.0004.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    sounds like low pressure...try bumping the charge up or increasing crimp first.
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  • 44shotdoctor44shotdoctor Member Posts: 178 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Ok,
    This brings up a even more important question. I was told not to crimp my 45acp's because of ejection problems. I crimp everything else I own. As for dirty powders. A 45acp at lower speeds shots great with Bullseye and it's very clean. Powders like Unique are very dirty but both shot close on paper. Choose a different powder.
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  • PinheadPinhead Member Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If you are shooting .45acp in an semi-auto, you need to be taper crimping your loads. It sounds to me like your crimp is too light, not getting your pressure up enough to burn clean. Try a heavier crimp before bumping up your charges weight.
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  • Grunt2Grunt2 Member Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Crimp has nothing to do with ejection problems...Unless your loads are too light to begin with..A good taper crimp is important for the 45acp..One way to set your crimp die is to try them in your barrel (after you remove it from the slide).."Pop" it in the chamber...Won't seat to the hood?...Crimp some more....Sticks?...Seat the bullet in a touch more...Seats past the hood?...Back off the crimp die...If it "clunks" and is easy to remove...Just right!

    quote:Originally posted by 44shotdoctor
    Ok,
    This brings up a even more important question. I was told not to crimp my 45acp's because of ejection problems. I crimp everything else I own. As for dirty powders. A 45acp at lower speeds shots great with Bullseye and it's very clean. Powders like Unique are very dirty but both shot close on paper. Choose a different powder.
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    A roll type crimp is NEVER, EVER and double NEVER advisable on the 45ACP.

    The round requires a taper crimp for bullet tension. It head spaces on the case mouth. The case mouth rim needs to engage the end of the chamber to assure headspace. Roll crimping may allow the firing pin strike to move the case into the throat. When that happens the bullet may pop a ring of brass off and lodge it in the barrel. If you shoot enough crimped 45ACP you risk blowing up your gun.

    A taper crimp die is cheap and easy to use. It may just fix your ignition problem.

    PS; I have shot some tite group and find it to be very clean burning.
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hello been out of town but as others have stated Taper crimp to about.469 at the case mouth is the preferred loading for many top BULLS-EYE shooters You might want to check your cases and Bullet. TZZ and Remington as well as REM-UMC are 3 brands that have thin case wall [:(]thickness . WW / WCC MATCH and Federal all are thicker[:)] Your bullet should be .452... This Combo will give you good Bullet Pull. Thus cleaner burn. "PRAISE THE HARD-BALL GUN"
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  • Hawk CarseHawk Carse Member Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Is it so "dirty" as to affect function of the gun?
    If not, shoot, then clean.
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