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heavy 30 cal bullets

bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
edited February 2005 in Perry Shooter Competition Shooting and Reloading Forum
Has anyone used the heavy cast 30 cal bullets, over 190 gr. I would like to get one but don't know how the accuracy compares to the more standard weights of around 170gr. On the other end do the real light cast bullets perform well?
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    what is your purpose for using cast bullets? Jacketed pills will run faster and hit harder and cause less of a PITA when cleaning the bore.

    good heavy 30cals I have used
    200gr SMK
    220gr SMK
    210gr Berger
    216gr Clinch River
    200gr Accubond

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    JustC, Which of the bullets you have listed would be suitable for game? I have been wondering myself. I am loading for a 300 WBY MKV. I want a bullet suitable for everything from woodchucks to moose. If Nosler made a 200 balistic tip or hornady made a 200 grain a-max, I would use it. I know the accubonds are a good bullet, but seem a little pricey.

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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    If I were to say any of the bullets listed would do it,..that would start the "match bullets are no good for hunting" arguments. I have hoewever taken whitetail with all of them listed except for the 216gr Clinch River because I have just started load work with that one.

    That being said,..the accubonds are very hard hitters. None of them will blow up a groundhog, but as far as a true hunting pill that has a match profile, the accubond is the only one. Match pills will fail when driven to fast on a close up target (deer sized) but after they slow up a bit, they really do quite well.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • bpostbpost Member Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    what is your purpose for using cast bullets?


    I like cast bullets for several reasons;
    1) Economy, they are cheap to make and shoot.
    2) Challenging, it is an art to get a cast bullet to shoot well.
    3) They are easier on the barrel.
    4) They have low recoil, if loaded properly (under 2000fps).

    For game hunting I use Nosler Partitions or Swift A Frames. Cast bullets can and do kill game. I just think that jacketed bullets designed for that job are better.
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  • JustCJustC Member Posts: 16,056 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I can understand that reasoning.[:)] I have never fired a cast bullet[:0] something I may have to try in the future.

    why chase the game when the bullet can get em from here?....
    Got Balistics?
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  • IconoclastIconoclast Member Posts: 10,515 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    JustC, some day you need to play with some older firearms. Just for an example, I've never seen a Krag which didn't shoot pretty well with a cast bullet - Lyman 311291 is especially good in that cartridge - even if the bore looked like an abandoned sewer line. Y, I know, 300 yards minimum and 3000 fps out the muzzle . . . . But don't forget the results people like Pope achieved with the old .32-40 and black powder at 1,000 yards . . . even if the trajectories were closer to a 155mm than a .300 Mag! And if you ever get into wheelguns, the lead bullets shoot as well or better than any jacketed slugs.

    "There is nothing lower than the human race - except the french." (Mark Twain)
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  • n/an/a Member Posts: 168,427 ✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by bpost1958
    quote:Originally posted by JustC
    what is your purpose for using cast bullets?


    I like cast bullets for several reasons;
    1) Economy, they are cheap to make and shoot.
    2) Challenging, it is an art to get a cast bullet to shoot well.
    3) They are easier on the barrel.
    4) They have low recoil, if loaded properly (under 2000fps).

    For game hunting I use Nosler Partitions or Swift A Frames. Cast bullets can and do kill game. I just think that jacketed bullets designed for that job are better.



    I don't think you can load a .300 WBY under 2000 fps...can you?.?.?

    Eric

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  • richbugrichbug Member Posts: 3,650
    edited November -1
    "I don't think you can load a .300 WBY under 2000 fps...can you?.?.?"

    12 grains of 2400 and a cast lead bullet of your choice. gives about 1000 fps.

    My border collie is smarter than your honor student.
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  • WarbirdsWarbirds Member Posts: 16,923 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Richbug- Are you serious???
    quote: I am loading for a 300 WBY MKV. I want a bullet suitable for everything from woodchucks to moose.


    First with a 300 WBY you shouldn't need a super heavy bullet, you'd still be able to drop your moose, and second if I would suggest a more appropriate round for woodchucks!

    I don't know where you found that load for 1,000fps, the lightest load I found for the 300 WBY Mag was 23.0 grains of SR4759 with a muzzle velocity of 1722 FPS. But my question remains the same,

    WHY????

    R/

    Dave
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