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Took the dive - Presses- Done done it!!
IAMACLONE_2
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Need to start reloading 556, $500k for 5.56mm is nuts..
Burn around 10-15k of 223 & 5k of 45acp a year.
Main thing is producing a repeatable very good quality round.
No room for error or squibs in machineguns.
Think I want a progressive turret setup.
Need to punch out at least 200rds a hour to make it worth while.
I want the "best" that is resonable and ez to operate.
Do I need a 4 hole,5, or 7 die set up?
Whats wrong witht buying say 3 cheaper presses each with a single purpose die set up vs the progressive turret.
Also feel that a good powder dispensor & electronic scales would be a bonus.
Hit me with your collective recommnedations.
I got the hots, and thats bad, got get one ASAP
Where you at Heff??
Thanks
Walte
Burn around 10-15k of 223 & 5k of 45acp a year.
Main thing is producing a repeatable very good quality round.
No room for error or squibs in machineguns.
Think I want a progressive turret setup.
Need to punch out at least 200rds a hour to make it worth while.
I want the "best" that is resonable and ez to operate.
Do I need a 4 hole,5, or 7 die set up?
Whats wrong witht buying say 3 cheaper presses each with a single purpose die set up vs the progressive turret.
Also feel that a good powder dispensor & electronic scales would be a bonus.
Hit me with your collective recommnedations.
I got the hots, and thats bad, got get one ASAP
Where you at Heff??
Thanks
Walte
Comments
For what it's worth.
W.D.
Ball powder is/will be your friend!
They reload with their machines...
The 650 will do..the new 1050's will crank out more ammo then even YOU can shoot..and will also reload longer rifle rounds.
1st) 3 cheap sgl stage loaders is not good otions - you have buy 3 sets of dies vs. one on a progressive loader.
You usually acquires numerous accessories that make the job easier, faster, or more precise. Among these are case trimmers, deburring tools, case neck brushes, case gauges, cleaning tumblers etc....
In a 3 sgl stage process these become your bottlenecks (all have to go through these operations) possibly and again you only have two hands...right.
Hornady,RCBS and the more expensive Dillions are all good choices in progressive loaders - go used on E-bay .
I would stay away from LEE hardware.
Good Luck.
For pistol you can just crank out ammo, but on rifle I do it in steps still.
Tumble brass
Stage 1, Lube die
Stage 2, Size and deprime
Trim brass, and any other prep needed
Tumble brass
Prime using hand primer or press, I usually hand prime while watching TV
Stage 3, Powder
Stage 4, Seat
Stage 5, Crimp
I do still keep a single stage press around for Swaging crimped primers, removing stuck cases [B)], it happens, or other little odds and ends. My progressive makes great rifle loads for my guns. If I had a target rifle that I wanted to make real good ammo for I would buy some inexpensive single stage presses and leave them set up for that round and not touch them. You would need 2 press per cal, one to size and one to seat/crimp. You would need to have stand alone power measures of some sort but over all this would be way cheeper then shooting factory ammo and could improve your groups.
Here is a pic of my current set up about half way put together but not used in my new house yet.
Dillon 650XL
Case feeder
Digi/Dispense scale
Powered auto case trimmer
MilSpec primer removal cutter included
And a bunch of other stuff.
2 powder sensors
fancy powder dumper
3 extra heads
223,308,45acp,357sig dies
Expected to arrive by Thursday.
Told Mama this morning, not totally happy, oh well...
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Good luck...and report back.
Take the time to get completely knowledgeable about the press...and don't be shy about picking up the phone and USING that vaunted Dillon customer service.
Happy rolling !!
I need to get in my loading room for a few hours and boost my ammo count.
The nice thing about a Dillon is you can wait till you are almost out and then go and crank out a pile of ammo in a few hours.