reloading data for 45acp?

wcoxy2003

im using a 200grn JSWC bullet with bullseye powder what would you say the low and high would be for the grains of powder? oal 1.230.

bpost

First; do you have a reloading manual?

dcs shooters

What powder are you planing to use? It will make a difference in the load.
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perry shooter

Hello Min and Max load will depend on the shooter and the recoil spring in the pistol .Every semi auto pistol in some way depends on how hard the shooter holds the pistol to achieve 100 % function. A skinny tall old man "me" will need a heavier load to function then say a 5'8" 240 pound body builder. The weight of the slide, Does it have a red dot sight mounded on the slide? will be a determining factor. What weight recoil spring does the pistol have?This to will determine your load. I have been shooting 5000-7500 rounds of 200 grain handloads per year for 35+ years. My suggestion is don't go under 3.8 grains of Bulls-Eye and don't go over 4.8 grains I would also look into lead bullet loads it will make for longer barrel life I get 100,000 rounds + or - barrel life.My suggestion is load 10 rounds of say 4.0 grains Bulls-Eye 1.240 OAL with mouth of case taper-crimped to .469 load one round in the magazine fire this round and repeat this test total of 10 times With one round in the magazine if the pistol fully cycles then the slide will lock open after each round. If the slide does not lock back then either the recoil spring is too heavy and you need to put in a lighter recoil spring or you need to go up on powder charge . What you are looking for is the heaviest spring that will fully function. A very light recoil spring will most likely function but it will in time batter the pistol. Feel free to email me if you have more questions just go to my profile.

CapnMidnight

Perry Shooter your being a little conservative, I've loaded 5gr Bullseye under 200gr swc or rnfp for more years than I care to coment on, I've always thought it was a standard load. I've got 1911s that have shot that load for more than 20 years without any ill effects or exrtra wear.
For what it's worth.
W.D.

wcoxy2003

just read on "steves reloading page for that grain of bullet and using bullseye. 3.4grn to 6.0. so what about 5.4 grn?

perry shooter

[:0][:0] My mistake I just went back and read your original post when I saw 200 grain semi wadcutter I assumed you were reloading for shooting paper targets in N.R.A. type matches if this is not the case disregard the rest of this message...Hello capt midnight and Wcoxy 2003. Yes both of your loads may work I have to ask you both this question. What purpose are you going to use this load for. Self defense loads are vastly different then Bullseye Target loads. You will be amazed at the group size of target loads compared to high velocity loads. I have shot thousands of rounds Of 45ACP using a Ransom Rest with both my pistols and others. most loads in the 700 - 800 FPS shoot he best groups with 200 grain bullets. The bullet of choice in your original question. If you are truly shooting Bullseye matches Then you are shooting slow fire one handed at 50 yards at a 3inch ten ring you need a pistol that is capable of small groups you also shoot rapid fire at 25 yards also one handed and recovery from recoil is a Factor. My take is a good group that will punch through the paper target is power enough why go with a full boat load ? Harder on the shooter, Harder on the pistol Cost more money for more power . Needs cleaning more often . I cant see the up side! Your mileage may vary . Not saying you are wrong and I am right I just cant see the point in bulls-eye match shooting "Praise the Hard-Ball Gun"

The one thing to remember is as you get toward the upper end of powder charge it may be desirable to install a heavier recoil spring. You want the slide to cycle fully and then just KISS the frame. If the spring is too heavy the slide will not fully cycle "SLIDE WILL NOT LOCK BACK AFTER LAST SHOT" and if not heavy enough it will function but in time batter the frame and crack the slide . This will not happen on the first hundred rounds but will in time. I don't like the use of buffers as this can cause timing problems on feeding rounds from the magazine. The shorter the barrel the harder it is to get 100% function. I would buy a Wilson or Wolff recoil spring pack from Brownell's Cheers Karl.IMHO Heavy loads are sort of like driving your car with motor always near the RED LINE it will do it but it will shorten it's life. I have over 300,000 rounds through my primary WAD MATCH Pistol.

wcoxy2003

hi perryshooter, i usually load them at 4.6grn. with the bullseye. but was just wondering what the high and low could be with this powder. ill have a "kimber grand raptor" 5 inch, "ed brown kobra carry" 4 inch and will be getting a "kimber ultra covert II" 3 inch barrel. like i said earlier steves reloading page says from 4.0 grn to 6.0 grn. wanted to make sure if i could go with 5.4 grain with them. i loaded a few at 5.4. havent shot them yet. just looking for something that each gun might shoot better with different loads. but wanted to make sure that the 5.4 grains would not be to much to even try.

CapnMidnight

perry shooter,
I agree with you on the target loads, I load differant for carry rounds, and the 5gr Bullseye load is for bowlling pins and just shooting, as it groups about the same as my carry loads so I use it for practice.
For what it's worth.
W.D.