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what are the chances

shootlowshootlow Member Posts: 5,425
edited January 2008 in Perry Shooter Competition Shooting and Reloading Forum
My son bought a new little H&R 7mm-08 and simmons scope he said it would not hold zero
i took gun to the work bench took scope off made sure all was tight
i took little gun and could get it to shoot 2 in bulls eye and the 3 &4 shot 5" high readjust same thing 2 in and 3rd shot again 4" high
BAD SCOPE is what im thinking
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  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sounds like scope that brand is poor quality from what I have seen.
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  • Mk 19Mk 19 Member Posts: 8,170
    edited November -1
    It sounds like the retical was shot loose, send it back to simmons and they'll fix it for you.
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  • HandgunHTR52HandgunHTR52 Member Posts: 2,735
    edited November -1
    Usually, if the retice is loose, every shot will go in a different direction. The fact that the first two are going in the same place leads me to believe that it might be a barrel heating issue. Try shooting it and letting the barrel cool a bit between each shot.
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  • shootlowshootlow Member Posts: 5,425
    edited November -1
    i let it cool 5min between shots
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  • scrubberguyscrubberguy Member Posts: 219 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Shootlow:
    If you have another scope try swapping them out if the same thing happens your looking at a fore end issue. I take it were talking Handy Rifle? If your groups get back in line send the scope back and ask for a repair.

    Question new scope or used?[8D]
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  • shootlowshootlow Member Posts: 5,425
    edited November -1
    quote:scrubberguy
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    Posted - 01/02/2008 : 10:07:29 PM

    Shootlow:
    If you have another scope try swapping them out if the same thing happens your looking at a fore end issue. I take it were talking Handy Rifle? If your groups get back in line send the scope back and ask for a repair.

    Question new scope or used?


    we are talking handy rifle
    and scope is/was new
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  • jtmarine0831jtmarine0831 Member Posts: 908 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Simmons are not made like they use to be!

    Not to scare you or anything, but you might want to take it to a gunsmith as well. I had similar issues with a Handi-rifle in 223Rem. I bought the rifle to handload for, but done some shooting with factory ammo and experienced the same issue. When I started to load for it I used my Stoney Point OAL Gauge to find my max OAL and was quite shocked. With a 55gr FMJ bullet touching the rifling it was almost exactly a quarter inch out of the case. The throat of the rifle was extremely over cut. I had to load Berger's 80gr VLDs to even get close to the rifling, I'm talking OAL of the load was over 2.60" to hit the lands! I had no use for the rifle them because of the ridiculous jump I had with light bullets and the twist wasn't fast enough for the heavy and long Bergers.

    Like I said, not trying to scare you, just check it out. H&R will replace the barrel, if that is the problem. Most likely, from what you are discribing, it is the scope.

    Good Luck!
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