30-06 pet load help

shootlow

my dad would like for me to reload his 06 for him
does any one have a starting load for 150 gr nosler ballistic tip
this may help take a lot of the sand bag work out of his gun

thanks


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Tailgunner1954

Mine likes the 150gr NBT over Reloder 19 (57.5gr - 61.5gr) in a Rem case lit by a WLR primer.
Work up, even though that's a book load, it's pushing the pressure limits (flattened primers are normal when you get to 61.5gr) as are "crunching noises" when you seat the bullets [:D].
Out of my rifle, it runs 2990fps (book shows 3015 from the test barrel).

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Some guys like a mag full of lead, I still prefer one round to the head.

D.S.COLE

The load of choice around our shop is 55 gr IMR 4350 and the 150 gr Bal Tip.
Now and then a particular rifle will prefer 4831 powder but the 4350 is the one tried first.

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Ray B

I prefer 165 or 180 grain bullets in the 30-06, but the load I use with 150gr is 53 gr IMR 4320.

Snellstrom

Just so you have something to compare my '06 shoots 180 spitzer BT's best of anything, the load in my gun is 56 grains of IMR 4350, WW brass and CCI large rifle primers and it prints under an inch in 3 shots @100 yards in my lightweight thin barreled pushfeed model 70. This load is straight out of the old Sierra manual at max, please work your way up no matter who gives you the load.
From my experience IMR 4350 and IMR 4831 are tremendously accurate powders in the 30/06, nothing tricky just start low and work your way up in powder, seat the bullet just barely off the lands until you find your best groups with the projectile of your choice.
My quick and easy method is to load up 3 rounds of a certain powder and weight( example 54 gr. of 4350, and another 3 rounds with 55 grains, and another with 56 grains) start with the lowest powder charge and shoot for accuracy, then the next and so on, this starts to get you close then work your way up or down in small increments until you have your most accurate.

shootlow

if the IMR 4831 will print a good group that would be great that is what i use in my 7mm mag the less powders the better


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r_himmelreich

I would be surprised of you can't find a load with IMR 4831 that won't shoot well. Use IMR 4350 as a backup. My father uses 4350 and he uses 54.5gr over a 150gr Corelokt PSP. Those two powders seem to work great in the '06 and standard length magnums.

RH

jonk

Depends. If it is for the M1 Garand, i'd go with about 48gr of IMR 4064. The M1 is picky about powder/bullet combos.

For any other guns (bolt action), the above is good advice.

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Shadow62

My Garand really like's
45.0 grains of IMR 4895
165 grain psp bullet

Shadow62

quote:Originally posted by jonk
Depends. If it is for the M1 Garand, i'd go with about 48gr of IMR 4064. The M1 is picky about powder/bullet combos.

For any other guns (bolt action), the above is good advice.

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deadeye46

shootlow,I've had excellent results with 50 Grains of WW748 powder and 150 grain Noslers,just a suggestion

shootlow

to all that have replyed thanks
if any more show up post them please


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temblor

If you want to use IMR4831 powder: 59.0 grs, Win.case, and a Win. L.R. primer has always shot good for me under the 150gr N.Ballistic Tip in the 30.06 . It is a maximum load in the Nosler book so work up slowly. -- A favorite 30.06 load with the 150gr N. Ballistic Tip ( or a 150 Sierra ) that has shot well in numerous rifles over the years is 59.0 grs of IMR4350, Win. case and a Win. L.R. primer. It is also a maximum load in the Nosler manual so work up slow. I still shoot that load in a Win. Model 70 Featherweight that likes it. The 4350 loads faster ( higher velocity ) than the 4831 load, but the deer I shot with either load were both just as dead...........[:D]. --- Good luck...........[8D]

victorlvlb

IMR4350 seems to do alright in all the bullets I shoot out of my o6. You didn't say how old yor dad was.

sandwarrior

shootlow,

Is this a bolt action or Semi auto? The reason I ask is that it has been posted here before about using medium burning powders only for the semi-auto so you don't over pressurize your gas system. 51 grs. of 4895, 52 grs. of 4064 and 53 grs. of VVN150. Work up to these if you do. Some have stated they have no problems with 4350 in semi auto. I haven't reloaded for a 30-06 in semi-auto so I can't say first hand.

For a bolt action 4350 seems to give the best results. Although I have had great succes with my 30-06 with 54 gr.s of VV N150.

all this with the .30 cal 150 gr. bullet.

roysclockgun

I loaded for my son's sporter Springfield 03-A3, 24" barrel, two groove. 51gr. of IMR4064. Worked out to be very accurate and took a number of deer with one shot, clean kills.

shootlow

the old man is OLDER than DIRT (62)[}:)]
i ran some 150 gr with 56.0 gr.IMR 4831 out of the bolt gun and got a 3/4" group so now it is time to tweek it just a little [:D]

david mcintyre

Ditto to using the 4350 or 4831. 150 GR. bullet, Start load 55gr and max 59 gr of either IMR 4350 or IMR 4831. You will get more velocity with the 4350 FWIW.

david mcintyre

Ken Waters Pet Loads lists 3 accurate loads for 150 grain nosler solid base bullet. 48 gr. imr4895, mv 2764 fps. 48 gr h-4895, 2806 fps and 50 gr. of N-201 for 2899 fps. R-P brass and R- 9 1/2 primer on the first two and F-210 primer with the N201 powder. OAL cartridge length of 3.30 in. All out of a 24 in. barrell. I really like this book. It can save you a lot of bullets and powder when working up a load. your rifle may not like these, start slow and work up checking pressure signs.

Grunt2

My best 3006 load with 150's is with H414....(chronos at 3150fps and shoots under .5" @ 100) but 4064, 4350 and 4831 work OK too..

bsally

45gr IMR 3031 is a good shooting hunting round in my A-bolt

Studebaker Hawk

If you insist on 150s, I'd be looking at IMR 4895, 4064, and 4320 powders. The various 4350s and 4831s are at their best with heavier bullets, however almost all suitable rifle powders will work, therein lies the beauty of the .30-06. I would steer you toward 165s if I could as you will find that they arrive with more authority at distance, and don't leave humongous holes.

bpost

46.3 of IMR4895 with a 150 bullet. It sure is a mild load but shoots 3/4 inch groups for me.

auton

In my 30-06

IMR 4350 @ 56.0
180 Sierra Gameking
WW cases and Fed 210 Match primer

57.5 of IMR 4350
165 Sierra Gameking
Same primer and case

NavyGunner

I have used 46.5 Gr. of IMR 3031 with Rem.large rifle primers, 150 Gr. Sierra JSP-BT, no crimp, GI Match or Federal cases for years now. I am a custom reloader and this will give most 30-06 guns and shooters a 1/2" or less for a 3 shot group at 100 Yds. if the gun and the shooter can do their part. I used this load when I was a member of a Navy rifle team. My slogan has been and is, "The best gun and an expert marksman are only as good as the ammunition used."
For me, Noslers are overated for the price that you have to pay.