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700 trigger pull

skychaser53skychaser53 Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
I'm browsing Gunbroker and I see different triggers ranging from 3 0z to several pounds. What did the Rem 700 Varmint 22-250 come with ?
My trigger is not hard to pull. It has the button in front of the guard that drops the magazine and a button top front of the trigger for the bolt, is that factory ? I'm thinking the 700 was made in the 80's if that matters.

Is there a guage that measures trigger pull or to I have to rig up something ?

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  • garand308wingarand308win Member Posts: 182 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    midwayusa.com sells trigger pull gauges.
  • 336marlin336marlin Member Posts: 201 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    A pull weight of around 3lbs is factory setting for most rifles. The 700 trigger is very adjustable with 3 set screws; one for spring pressure, one for overtravel, & one for sear engagement. It can be set very light though not recommended for general hunting where it's carried and bumped etc.
  • mrbrucemrbruce Member Posts: 3,374
    edited November -1
    The 700 triggers are standard and should never be lighter than 2 1/2 pounds for safety reasons. They are not reliable below that, and could cause a problem some day.....
    The triggers that are adjustable below a pound are usually high dollar competition triggers.
    Jewell is the most known used.....
  • skychaser53skychaser53 Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thx garand308win for the link and everyone for the help.I'll check out the gauge.

    My first concern is saftey, I have a light trigger( I, think ) but I would still like to know what it measures .I missed a groundhog yesterday. lol

    I read on one of the trigger ads on GB a few minutes ago that factory setting was 7 lbs. I think they are mistaken. I would be very suprised if mine measures 3 lbs. but if it does, thats where it will stay . saftey.
  • skychaser53skychaser53 Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Are the expensive triggers safe for hunting?
    When you say there is a bump danger, the gun can't go off if the saftey is on can it?
  • ChetStaffordChetStafford Member Posts: 2,794
    edited November -1
    Here is a link to a topic I posted about the same thinghttp://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=270367

    There is some good information in this post
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    skychaser53,

    Remington triggers are one of the most frequent projects that everyone seems to think they should be able to fix. Trigger work should be handled by gunsmiths with the experience to tune triggers safely. Lack of understanding of how triggers actually function and the range of function is the greatest drawback to taking this on as a project by an amateur. Safety first in all things related to firearms.

    Remington triggers come from the factory set in a range of 7-12 lbs., never lighter, period. Most of us refer to this as the 'lawyer-proof' trigger. The range depends on who put the springs in and which day of the week the factory was doing triggers. Some of the new version Mark X triggers are quite tunable while some of the older standard Remington triggers were nothing but garbage. I have had some factory triggers turn out exceptionally good after a little contact surface truing and a new set of springs. These are very suitable for a fine hunting trigger. But, as pointed out above, NO Remington trigger should every be tuned below 3 lbs. I don't care who thinks that they are the exception to this, don't do it. The trigger is not designed to be used below the range of 3 lbs.

    Your varmint rifle came from the factory with the same trigger as always, a Remington factory trigger and it was set somewhere between 7 and 12 lbs. If I am reading your description right you don't have a factory set up. If I'm mistaken by the wording, please post a picture and we can tell better.

    There are replacement triggers made for the Remington M700 that start as low as 1-1/2 ounces. These are reserved entirely for benchrest target shooting where the rifle is always under the control of the shooter on the bench or it has the bolt removed. These are never supposed to be used under other circumstance. Some competitions have a specified weight of pull that must be adhered to or you're not allowed to compete.

    "Are the expensive triggers safe for hunting?"

    Yes, Jewell makes great triggers that have a range that is safe and usable for hunting rifles and that have a safety.

    "When you say there is a bump danger, the gun can't go off if the saftey is on can it?"

    This is an intermittent problem that has been reported about Remington triggers. A properly tuned trigger will not go off when bumped, safety on or off. The design of the Remington trigger can allow for the safety to be on and the trigger pulled but when the safety is removed, the rifle fires. The new Mark X trigger is supposed to cure this problem.

    Here is a pretty thorough article about triggers. Please read it and ask any questions that you come across afterwards.

    http://www.realguns.com/archives/060.htm

    Best.
  • skychaser53skychaser53 Member Posts: 344 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    thx for the link CsJS1194 !
    nononsense, thats a very good artcle.
    I would never do trigger work. If I bought something I would have a local gunsmith put it in. I think I have a target trigger already, I can't believe it's 7 lbs.It might be 3 , but I dont know. I'll probably order the digital gauge today (can't have too many tools :o) I left a phone message with the person I bought the 700 from to see what he knows.
    My sons digital camera not working or I would post a pic.

    Any time there's a saftey concern, anyone feel feel to point it out.
  • 336marlin336marlin Member Posts: 201 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Here's another article that might help;
    http://www.quarterbore.com/library/articles/rem700trigger.html
    Adjusting the 700 trigger is not hard, it's one of those things that the gunsmith chuckles about all the way to the bank.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    336marlin,

    "Adjusting the 700 trigger is not hard, it's one of those things that the gunsmith chuckles about all the way to the bank."

    While on the surface this may appear to a terribly clever comment, it really serves to show the lack of knowledge and understanding of what gunsmiths do.

    For what little a gunsmith charges for a 'trigger job', he is now totally responsible for whatever happens with that firearm until or when some other gunsmith or cobbler works on that particular firearm. He's the last one who touched it, therefore he bears the responsibility. For the under-informed, that means if anything goes wrong with that firearm and someone is injured, no matter whose fault, that gunsmith will stand the cost of defending himself and bearing the cost of whatever lawsuits that he loses. Yes I know there is insurance for circumstance such as this but in the long run, all you accomplish is paying the premiums and losing everything that you worked for. The plaintiff's attorneys know exactly how deep your pockets are and they know how far they can push the limits of financial responsibility. The lawyers are the winners in all cases.

    So much for chuckling all the way to the bank. Maybe you ought try being a gunsmith and making a living at it instead of making smart-aleck remarks.

    Best.
  • nononsensenononsense Member Posts: 10,928 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    336marlin,

    "Adjusting the 700 trigger is not hard, it's one of those things that the gunsmith chuckles about all the way to the bank."

    While on the surface this may appear to a terribly clever comment, it really serves to show the lack of knowledge and understanding of what gunsmiths do.

    For what little a gunsmith charges for a 'trigger job', he is now totally responsible for whatever happens with that firearm until or when some other gunsmith or cobbler works on that particular firearm. He's the last one who touched it, therefore he bears the responsibility. For the under-informed, that means if anything goes wrong with that firearm and someone is injured, no matter whose fault, that gunsmith will stand the cost of defending himself and bearing the cost of whatever lawsuits that he loses. Yes I know there is insurance for circumstance such as this but in the long run, all you accomplish is paying the premiums and losing everything that you worked for. The plaintiff's attorneys know exactly how deep your pockets are and they know how far they can push the limits of financial responsibility. The lawyers are the winners in all cases.

    So much for chuckling all the way to the bank. Maybe you ought try being a gunsmith and making a living at it instead of making smart-aleck remarks.

    Best.
  • MIKE WISKEYMIKE WISKEY Member Posts: 10,035 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    nononsence makes some very good points, the rem. trigger is very 'tunable' and if done right can be set to the 1-1 1/2 lb. range with a spring change and a little polishing. the 'fire when safty is disengaged' problem is mostly lack of maintanence (or a lot of wd-40). If the trigger gets 'gummed-up' for what ever reason it may fire when the safty is disengaged.
  • greystonegreystone Member Posts: 194 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I have 3 700's and I have adjusted all the triggers down to 3 lbs-no less-using a pull gauge. The only screw I mess with is the weight screw. All of these guns double as hunting guns and bench rest. Most of my shooting is done on the bench rest just for fun and informal competition. At 3 lbs you can shoot nice groups. The most important part is trigger control-discipline. Dave
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