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Anybody use 4227?
Colonel Plink
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I was looking for some H110 the other day for some 357 and 44mag. He was out, so, after looking through the manuals on hand, I settled for the 4227.
What's y'all's experience with it?
What's y'all's experience with it?
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It's marginal in the 357, okay in the 44. Works best in a gun with a longer Bbl. (6 inch and up) If you don't use a full load, it will be dirty.
Thanks for the input. I got it for a 7-1/2" Super Blackhawk and a 6" Model 28 Smith...
Since it's stainless, dirty is not so much of a challenge for the Ruger. She cleans up nicely. I may just have to scour the countryside for what I'm really looking for.
I'm tellin' ya. I can't find H110 to save my life!
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?
quote:Originally posted by grizzclaw
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?
Mag primers may help but in my experience 2400 is a lot better, I have not used 110 or 296 for years. I burned a pound of 4227 trying different loads, primers and bullets. I never got the MV expected even when using mag primers. I tested it in a 5" S&W 29 Classic and a 12" Encore Barrel.
quote:Originally posted by Colonel Plink
quote:Originally posted by grizzclaw
I couldn't get my guns to completely burn all the powder, hence it was very dirty.
Do you think magnum primers will help?
Mag primers may help but in my experience 2400 is a lot better, I have not used 110 or 296 for years. I burned a pound of 4227 trying different loads, primers and bullets. I never got the MV expected even when using mag primers. I tested it in a 5" S&W 29 Classic and a 12" Encore Barrel.
Well, burn a pound of it is what I'm gonna have to do. Since I've got a pound of it. That's all he had.
Damn, I'm beginning to develop a real dislike for hoarders.
You must use a fairly heavy roll crimp on your 44 as you would with say, 2400. This will help the burn rate be more consistent, hence it will burn hotter and cleaner. If you are using a bullet without a cannelure, like a rainier, for target work, taper crimp the mouth snugly.This powder works very well for me with 240 and 265 grain bullets. Have used it for years for hunting with a redhawk.
I'm going to see what it'll do with 300-grain JSP's in the Blackhawk.
My seating die is currently set up for a substantial roll crimp already, so I'm glad I won't have to piddle with that.
A solid crip on a canelure is mandatory for good performance with this stuff.
The heavier bullets work the best with this powder, at least for me.
Using some cast 255gr SWC (Keith) with gas check is a very accurate load for me, but not very clean. Probably a combination of the cast lube and not getting as stout of a crimp on the cast bullet.
You may also have some compressed loads, depending on your bullet choice.
ENJOY !
Why not give Win. 296 a try . I use it in both the calibers you mentioned and it works well. I have a pet load for the Ruger .44 Mag., I'd be happy to share it with you , it is for Rugers and single shots only.
If I can find some. I will.
Like I said, I invested pretty heavily in this one pound of powder.
I truly appreciate all the great advice this thread has produced.