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.44 Remington Magnum
k_townman
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I'm looking for loading data for loading a Lyman 310 grain flat nose cast lead gas checked bullet in the 44 Mag. This will be a hunting load. Thanks.
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My current (#49) Lyman manual shows a 300-gr GC cast bullet (mould #429650). Cast of an alloy other than pure linotype, it would run a bit heavier, so that's likely the bullet in question. They show 12 different powders. Their loads for H110 are 17.7 to 18.5 grains for right at 1000 fps. Magnum primers are called for.
The same speed can be achieved with 2400 (15.7 gr), W296 (19.0 gr), or either type of 4227 (19.0 gr). They recommend a magnum primer for the W296 and H4227, but standard primers for the others. All the pressures run about 37,000 CUP except for IMR4227 which ran 33,000 CUP. (Using a standard primer with IMR 4227 may be the reason for the lower pressure.)
It is a "throttle to the floor" powder but has very specific needs. Those four things are among them.
I personally don't like to use H110/W296 in handgun loads, for those very reasons. I'd much rather use AA#9, 2400 or 4227 for heavy loads.
All I have is standard large pistol primers. I use them in my 45 Auto loads. I'm sure they'll fire off a 44 Mag load. [?]
Read what everyone just posted, if the load calls for magnum primers, use them. Your statement of "it'll light them anyway" is not correct, slipshod methods, and substittions will get you in deep trouble.
W.D.
Scott,
Read what everyone just posted, if the load calls for magnum primers, use them. Your statement of "it'll light them anyway" is not correct, slipshod methods, and substittions will get you in deep trouble.
W.D.
Bottom line - A standard large pistol primer will make a 44 Mag round go BANG. Yes, or No?
It might, but then again, it might not. In the "might not" column, we have failure to fire, hangfire and what I call spontaneous omnidirectional disassembly.
All of those happen at random. You have no choice.
Care to gamble?
That is correct. It IS "yes or no."
It might, but then again, it might not. In the "might not" column, we have failure to fire, hangfire and what I call spontaneous omnidirectional disassembly.
All of those happen at random. You have no choice.
Care to gamble?
I used to load 7mm Rem Mag. I never used a mag primer. Never had any problems.
Winchester primers are formulated SPECIFICALLY to work with Winchester powders. They are (in general) hotter than comparable similar primers. So when they say that their primer is suitable for standard or magnum pistol loads, it means just that. They are a good choice for use with H110/W296.
Looks like you got your feathers ruffled for nothing, Rocky Raab. [?]
If my assistance is unwelcome, that's fine. I'll simply not reply in the future.
I was more frustrated than ruffled. You at first asked a reasonable question and then practically argued with the replies. Now it seems as though you've answered your own initial post by looking it up - which you might have done all along.
If my assistance is unwelcome, that's fine. I'll simply not reply in the future.
Oh settle down bud. I did pick up a couple of boxes of CCI #350 Large Magnum pistol primers. I also have Winchester Large Pistol primers. I use the Winchester primers in my 45 Auto loads. Thank you for your concern.
Make sure your cast bullets have gaschecks! I learned this the hard way with my Md 29.
I rarely shoot gas checked bullets. However, this particular mold casts a gas check bullet.