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Copper fouling
Wizard07
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What product do you use for getting copper out of your bore that does not have ammonia in it?
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KG-12 Copper Remover for Rifles
Quickly Removes Heavy Copper Fouling from Rifle Bore...
Restores Accuracy to 204 Ruger, 22-250 and all others.
Copper fouling destroys accuracy in high velocity rifles. New barrels that haven't been broken in can be over-fouled with copper in as little as the first 10 shots... before a new rifle owner has even had a chance to finish sighting in, much less shoot groups. Extremely high velocity cartridges like 204 Ruger or 22-250 are notorious for copper fouling. Experienced 204 Ruger shooters and long range prairie dog hunters are known to clean the copper from their barrels every 20-50 shots to keep them accurate. Wipe-Out Bore Foam has been the most effective, yet gentle cleaner but it can take 1-12 hours of soaking to get out the copper when it gets especially heavy. Our new KG12 will remove HEAVY copper fouling in as little as 15-30 minutes! It's a great tool for maintaining accuracy as well as barrel break-in.
KG-12 Copper Removal - First of all, KG12 is totally aggressive on copper. Take a look at the copper dissolving test results at KG12Test.pdf. Second, it Contains No Ammonia. It is a water based chemical that will not harm rifle barrel steels. (Use Caution around Nickel Plating - see below right). Third, apply KG-12 with a bore brush so you'll get a sufficient and complete wetting of the bore... don't let it evaporate, keep it wet for 5-15 minutes. Afterward, push a close fitting jag and patch through the bore and then inspect with a flashlight. Simply look into the muzzle and see if there are still some copper streaks. If there's still copper, repeat the process. When there's no more copper, flush with a couple patches of KG3 and follow with a patch of KG4 gun oil. (See descriptions/priorities of all KG products below).
KG-12 and KG-2 Barrel Break-In Procedure - Usually barrel break-in procedures are to fire one or more shots, clean the barrel, fire one or more shots, clean the barrel, and so on until the polishing action of the fired bullets has worn-in the bore surfaces. However, the key ingredient of breaking in a barrel is a clean, un-coppered bore so the fired bullets can wear directly against bare steel as they travel down the bore. High velocity cartridges that foul the bore fast can make breaking in go slow by simply requiring so much waiting time to clean out the copper between shots. We've found that KG12 reduces the cleaning time to 15-30 minutes for even the heaviest copper fouling. And if you add KG-2 bore polish, you can increase the bore polishing effectiveness of each fired break-in shot. Fire a shot, clean with KG-12, swab with KG-2, and fire another shot. Repeat for 5-10 shots. Do not over do it on the KG-2... just swab enough to coat the inside barrel surfaces... we use a patch wrapped around a smaller caliber brush.
Remember, a certain amount of copper fouling is normal. What breaking in a barrel does is increase the number of accurate shots you can take before having to clean out excessive copper fouling. And KG12 is exceptional at removing any and all copper.
KG Products Descriptions and Priorities - Of course we recommend them all but you can order only what you need. For example, the instructions recommend flushing with KG-3 Solvent/Degreaser after cleaning with KG-12. You can sure use something else if you want to. Likewise, KG-1 is a superb carbon and powder fouling solvent for regular gun cleaning (We use it before cleaning with KG12) but you can sure use something else. Same with KG-4 gun oil. Order them all or order only what you need... KG is good stuff!
Wipe-OutT Bore Cleaning Foam
Brushless Foaming Accuracy Treatment...
A customer came in recently and raved about restoring a favorite gun to accuracy with Wipe-Out Foaming Bore Cleaner. He had cleaned the barrel thoroughly with brushes and solvents and it still wouldn't shoot accurately. Then he tried Wipe-Out. The patch came out bright blue... which means lots of copper was embedded in his bore. After cleaning with Wipe-Out, the gun became accurate just like when it was new.
Wipe-Out is different, but easy to use. Point the nozzle down the bore and squirt. The barrel instantly fills with expanding foam that penetrates every nook and cranny. Wait an hour and then just Wipe-Out the bore with a cleaning rod, tight fitting jag, and patch. No brushing!
Not acid and not ammonia, Wipe-Out is gentle on rifle barrel steels...
Its odorless, yet dissolves copper, carbon, brass, bronze, and powder fouling. The patch color tells the tale... Blue is copper fouling. Gray/black is carbon and powder fouling. When the patch comes out colorless, the barrel is clean! If you need a cleaning rod, jag, and patches, please click here (for a 12 Piece Jag Set Click Here) After cleaning with Wipe-Out, we recommend treating the bore with a good gun oil such as ClenzoilT... which also acts as a fouling retardent. If you like accuracy, you have to try Wipe-OutT... The 5 oz. can lasts a LONG time... Order your's today!
http://www.mpro7.com/MPro7-Copper-Remover.html
M-Pro 7 Copper Remover
Eliminates copper fouling without the use of ammonia or other toxic chemicals.
# Up to 4x faster than ammonia-based cleaners
# Improves accuracy and reliability
# Dissolves copper fouling
# Conditions to reduce future fouling
# Safe on bore steel (for use inside bore only)
# Ammonia and odor free
SPECS: 2oz., 4oz., and 1 Gal.
Boretech CU+2 Copper Remover
http://www.boretech.com/products/copperremover.shtml
Best.
The Foul-Out comes with two chemicals, one for copper and one for lead. Both work extremely well, but can't be interchanged or mixed.
For really REALLY bad copper fouling, the Outers Foul-Out electrochemical system simply cannot be beat. It will get every speck of copper out. If the copper is layered under powder fouling, you may have to clean that out first, then use the Foul-Out and possibly repeat. (Copper and powder fouling can accumulate in layers as each bullet passes over the previous shot's powder fouling.)
The Foul-Out comes with two chemicals, one for copper and one for lead. Both work extremely well, but can't be interchanged or mixed.
I use this in my 257wbt mag that mother with foul in 10-12 shots it seams
I use wipe for most everything else