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155 gr .45 Cal LSWC ammo
snakeeater
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Any bulls eye shooters that have used this load? Would appreciate any comments,advice,etc.,
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SnakeEater
S/F,
SnakeEater
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For bullseye, you wouldn't have to push it that fast.
Still have 110rds. left.
1. 5.6 gr BE for 1076 fps and group of 7.5" at 25 yds.
2. 5.4 " 1025 " 1.65" at 15 yds
3. 4.9 " 966 " 1.7" "
4. 4.3 " 835 " 0.6" "
These were shot in order #4 first. I have not been able to repeat #4's group. I have 5 different springs for different loads. I hope to hear of other's experiences for this bullet.
Why make them so hard??? some guns like softer bullets. From my experience loads under 1,000 FPS can be very soft with no danger of leading.
I shoot alloy and hardness that works for my GI pistol since I bought it in 1965 and I have shot it many thousands of rounds, many different factors of handloads, many different jackeded bullets. I don't have any match parts in it, strictly GI loose. Soft alloy does work for a few rounds but fouls the bore such that I have to clean it immediately at the range and cleaning it takes a long time due to leading. I have had to use a stainless steel brush or Tornado brush and use RemClean abrasive on a tight patch to get it back to barely holding 3" at 25 yds, typically 6" at 25 yds if fouled. Only one time did I clean it over a few days with mercury in the bore. There was so much carbon, lead and copper in it that it looked like it was pitted, but it wasn't pitted and after that cleaning process, the bore looked smooth for the first time in many years. I found from experience shooting all handguns, other than revolver target loads, rifle and shotgun slugs that they required fully hardened alloy to maintain accuracy and clean bores. I have proven it so many times that I am convinced that it works and too many match shooters in the Cast Bullet Association agree with me about hardened alloy or from heat treating and quench process. Certainly, soft alloy may shoot well in quality match barrels in pistols at relatively low target velocity, not much more than 1500 fps in rifles and a very few greater than 1500 fps.
I have shot hardened cast bullets fitted to the throats in a 1903 Springfield sporter Leopold 18X scoped and 2-groove barrel and M-1 Garand with worn bore half way to muzzle at from 2350-2850 fps with 145-210 gr bullets with no fouling and very good accuracy, <1.0 MOA in the '03 (a 1500 fps target load), 1.5+ MOA with the high vel loads and about 2.5 MOA in the M-1 Garand with its iron sights. The DCM ammo we used in High-Power matches with the Garand would severely foul the bore and was no better than 6-7 MOA. It took me a long time to find out what worked in these rifles, hardness and fitting to the throat, brass preparation, powders and primers. I did the same with Rem 700 in 222 Rem, 250 Sav (old M-54 Win) and 6.5X55 Swede match rifle, all holding 1.0 MOA with the 222 Rem at 1.5 MOA. It took some custom moulds to make the 250 Sav and Swede to finally shoot well.
I worked on my 303 Brit rifles a long time and with a custom oversized mould for my #4 Long Branch (2.5 MOA), it worked for my #5 Jungle Carbine's large and long throat (to 3.0 MOA from early keyholes) and my 1916 #1 shot OK (2.5 MOA) from the start with a standard 311299 and 314299 without any special fitting, all three with Iron sights, but I cheated on the #5 (I had cataracts then) as it had been "Bubba'ed" by cutting off the rear sling hardware, bluing the barrel and someone had it drilled for a side mound, very odd threadings, and I mounted a scope on it with an aluminum side mount I designed and had a friendly gunsmith make for me. The scope is coming off to get it back in proper shape.
The point is that if your handgun is fouling with lead, the alloy is too soft or the load is too hot or it could be that the throat is too big or too long for the bullet, typically 0.451" diameter as my Glock 21 has a 0.456" diameter and long throat tapered leade but a hard alloy bullet will work in it without any trouble that some claim with cast bullets. I'll bet they tried soft bullets with very hot loads. I size all my 45 ACP cast bullets to 0.453" and could size some to 0.456" for the Glock but the loaded rounds tended to stick in the chamber without fully going into battery and they were a booger to extract. Supposedly, the Glock and other semi-auto pistols won't fire if the round is not fully in battery but something has blown up some of them, perhaps double-charges of powder?
If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I believe I'm right and hopefully I'll have another 49 years of handloading with the usual few errors and if so, I'll be 113 years old and still loading and shooting. I keep wondering about what the government might be planning for us.