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hazmat fees

joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
how much is actual shipping for powder and primers? i see natchez has 8lbs kegs for around 130 bucks. and cabellas has primers for $29. can get them shipped to the local store so i dont think the hazmat would apply.
if i can get powder 30 bucks cheaper online then i can at a local store is it worth it?

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  • colt423colt423 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Somebody is going to pay all or part of haz mat if shipped. its like death and taxes.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    HAZ MAT fee has to be paid on each shipment no matter Who ships to Who
  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    what i ment by that with cabelas is they ship powder and primers to their store all the time. if you order online they will send it to the store without a shipping charge. as it goes when the next shipment is set for that store anyway.
  • perry shooterperry shooter Member Posts: 17,105 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I understand now but I wonder if your local store will split the order without charging His retail price to you[?] If so great I wish I had a dealer like him
  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    i know i ordered some ammo through them befor paid what was listed online had it sent to the store and that was it. would be the same for powder and primers i would think.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
    I understand now but I wonder if your local store will split the order without charging His retail price to you[?] If so great I wish I had a dealer like him


    Perry,

    Nope, the place you get the order written up is the price you pay. Whatever store you buy from will honor that price with no surcharges, unless you had it shipped there "rush". I found a closeout on a Rem 799 in .222 down in Chicago. I couldn't buy it there as I was leaving and didn't want to wait an extra day for the waiting period. So, they gave me two options to get it to Minn. Ship it "rush" for $40 and have it there in three days. Or, ship it via company transport (something like that I forget the actual term) for nothing. That would take four weeks. I quit working in Chicago, came back to MN and in three and a half weeks they gave me a call. I paid 6% MN tax as opposed to 11% Chicago tax. Cabela's has always been good to me and most anyone I know in that regard.

    Joshmb1982,

    Sorry to have not attempted to answer your question.

    You would be saving $5 as the haz-mat fee jumped to $25. That may not be the correct figure though.

    Personally, if you see a sale or something in a Cabelas catalogue or another store then see if you can't get them to get it to your store. Shipments within Cabela's transfer system, Same as Gander or Dicks, don't usually cost money and they don't have to pay a haz-mat fee when they go on the road for their own distribution.

    So, you can do it that way, or order it straight up and see if you can get it for less. I do both as both businesses need business to stay in business. I shop local when I can first, though.
  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    im goning to run up to a local place on wednesday as thats when he gets his deleveries and see what he has. hes been unable to get large rifle primers though in federal which is what im using for small rifle and and small pistol. and also he said he cant get in anything in 8lb kegs right now. which seems to be a huge savings.
  • airmungairmung Member Posts: 579 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Not to change the subject, but I have a dumb question. Exactly what is the justification for the hazmat charge? Just because they can? What are you really paying the ridiculous extra fee for? Does the "hazmat" labelling or packaging requirement somehow (magically) make shipping primers or powder less dangerous? Maybe it makes the western world safer for democracy.....no, somehow, I don't think so.....
  • joshmb1982joshmb1982 Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    well the hazmat label i would think would at least let the handlers know to be more carfull with it.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    quote:Originally posted by airmung
    Not to change the subject, but I have a dumb question. Exactly what is the justification for the hazmat charge? Just because they can? What are you really paying the ridiculous extra fee for? Does the "hazmat" labelling or packaging requirement somehow (magically) make shipping primers or powder less dangerous? Maybe it makes the western world safer for democracy.....no, somehow, I don't think so.....


    It's to pay for the massive costs of clean-ups in the past. Like when gas/oil trucks or chemical trucks/trains have a wreck. A hazmat team is dispatched and clean-up begins. I think it's pretty over-blown myself because if a common carrier moving powder were to wreck it would leave some bio-degradeable powder on the road that would no longer be flammable after the first dew. Or matter at all if it was spread out.

    The whole premise is that everyone shipping any hazmat pays equally. Not to worry, it's equally stupid to other industries as well. Say you had a aircraft maintenance shop and needed a gallon of toluol. That requires a hazmat fee for ordering it. What used to be a $10 can of solvent is now a $35 can because of the hazmat involved. Batteries, D, C, AA, AAA, require a hazmat fee when over a certain amount is shipped. The only way to beat that is to have local distribution centers. But, that isn't cost effective at all. Personally, I think their inclusion limits are way too low.
  • colt423colt423 Member Posts: 36 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Call me a synic, i can remember when there was no haz mat on powder and primers. Then congress says to pay 5.oo a package, oh and then at the same time frame there is a new regulation put out how if you reload for some one else and not use there brass , you need to pay a tax on it. Now its 22.00 or some charge 25.00 its a crock. And ive already heard the regulation makes it safer and no body gets hurt lines before they come out. Has any one ever tried to light powder or set off primers with heat? Powder burns hot and fast then its gone. put a primer on the cherry of a cig it takes 4 to 5 mins to cook off. Need to use sense in handeling yes. Why isnt loaded ammo haz mat? Just not seeing the haz part.
    Why can you ship ammonia and bleach together? Its one thing guys and gals, They cant find a way to tax reloaders or regulate how much componets they have, so now the bottom line is written.
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