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250/3000 Savage

reddnekreddnek Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
I finally landed one of these in an 1899 Savage. What i'd like is a nice mild deer load for my 11 year old grandson to use next year,he's a pretty good sized boy but hasn't done much shooting YET( anti gun mom lol)i plan to get him on the range this summer and put a couple hundred rounds through the savage ,along with his safety training.

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  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Hornady 100-gr spirepoint, 31.0 H4895. Mild pressure and 2700 fps.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • skyfishskyfish Member Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    87 gr Speer hot core, My Savage 99(and most others) has a slow 1-14 twist and doesn't stabilize much longer bullets well. If you can find a 100gr semi-spizter that may work. Otherwise you would have to push most 100gr bullets very hard for that cartridge. I think any medium or slightly faster powder would work. I'm not looking at my stuff but I've used IMR4320, R-15. I know I have used others but can't think of it right now.

    Have fun with your boy, that's a very kid friendly gun it terms of recoil.
  • Rocky RaabRocky Raab Member Posts: 14,438 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    I had forgotten that twist issue. Thank you for bringing it up, skyfish. Good advice.
    I may be a bit crazy - but I didn't drive myself.
  • sandwarriorsandwarrior Member Posts: 5,453 ✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Mine is a first year 1899 and it has the 1-14" twist too. I've gone to VV140 behind an 87/90 gr. bullet. Starting load is 34 gr. I've worked up to 38 then backed down to 37.5 as that had a little better accuracy in my rifle.

    Edit:

    The simplest load I know of is 37 gr. of H4895X. But start at 34-35 to work up with that.

    With the short bullets used in that really slow twist of early years you can seat them deep and work them up a smidge more. Let them get a run at the lands, so to speak.

    If you have the faster twist (I doubt it, but possible) and want to use 100 gr. bullets, jump up to 4350. 35 is the starting point again.

    RE-17 and RE-19 come to mind with heavier bullets too. RE-17 especially with the way it's formulated for that class of cases.
  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    You might try the Speer 100 gr. HP, too--it's a little shorter that the other 100 grainers. That bullet shoots pretty well in my .250's.

    I wouldn't think you'd have to worry about the recoil. Most of my .250 loads generate around 8 ft/lbs of free recoil. For reference; the average .223 load produces about 3 ft/lbs and a full power .30/06 load, 20+ ft/lbs.

    Also, about the anti-gun mom; I had a similiar situation here. Make every effort to get a .22 in that woman's hands. If you can accomplish that, I'll bet you'll have a convert.
  • CapnMidnightCapnMidnight Member Posts: 8,038 ✭✭
    edited November -1
    Another good load, that I use is 87gr Hornaday over 34 gr H4895,CCI 200 primer, shoots great, and is semi mild.
    Enjoy shooting with your grandson.
    W.D.
  • reddnekreddnek Member Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Thanks everyone for the advice. Ambrose as far as the anti gun mom. she's my blood daughter and it seems nothing has worked yet,her sister(16 months older)has no objection to guns but this one is dead set against them she did however agree that her son could go hunting with me.
  • AmbroseAmbrose Member Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November -1
    Sorry, thought she might be your daughter-in-law. Have a soccer mom that keeps her horse here; against guns until I put a Ruger pistol in her hand and pointed her at a target. She was pretty shakey, but she put most of a box of cartridges through it. I think she'll come around. I haven't seen my daughter in over 2 years--she's pretty much anti everything having to do with me.
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