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Question for Just C Or Nononsense, or.............
IdahoRedneck
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Any one else who knows.
Was talking to a guy today at the gun store who shoots a 300 rem ultra, hes loading 210 Berger VLD and claims he is getting 3332 fps over the chrony. I forget his powder which is key but he said each one was loaded over 100 grains . Something like 102, 103, 104 Grains of powder, He said somethin bout H870 and how they discontinued it[?]
My question is Is this guy serious, I cant find any loads that call for over 100 grains of powder in 300 ultra but I am new to reloading myself.
I truly have no reason to doubt this guy but if hes on to somethin..................
O Rem 700 is the gun.
Any thoughts is this BS or not 3300 FPS with a 210 grain bullet
Was talking to a guy today at the gun store who shoots a 300 rem ultra, hes loading 210 Berger VLD and claims he is getting 3332 fps over the chrony. I forget his powder which is key but he said each one was loaded over 100 grains . Something like 102, 103, 104 Grains of powder, He said somethin bout H870 and how they discontinued it[?]
My question is Is this guy serious, I cant find any loads that call for over 100 grains of powder in 300 ultra but I am new to reloading myself.
I truly have no reason to doubt this guy but if hes on to somethin..................
O Rem 700 is the gun.
Any thoughts is this BS or not 3300 FPS with a 210 grain bullet
Comments
I would have to see that velocity over my chronograph before I would believe it. Not saying it is not true. Just hard to believe.
CP
and 220 gr starting load 98 gr and max load 102 gr
hornady only lists 1 load at 101.4 as a max load for a 220 gr
using AA8700.nosler loads are 2920 to 3090 fps-200 gr and 2828-2987 fps,Hornady is 3000 fps.Not berger data,but it might help
Who knows? Maybe if he was pinned down and questioned a little more closely, the real story might surface.
My guess would be US869 from Hodgdon. It can be compressed for the loads he mentioned.
Most chronographs are notorious for being low quality (cheap) and inconsistent. But they serve a purpose sort of... Lighting conditions often affect the quality of the readings also, along with the distance from the muzzle to the first screen. I don't place much emphasis on claims made by folks passing time in the gun shop.
The antithesis of this is that he's running his loads over pressure and thinks he's just fine. But the pressures he'd need to have would be substantial and not acceptable.
Best.
Furthermore, there is not one reason in hello to do it. No reason for any of those overblown cartridges, neither. Just because there are deer in Texas does not mean I need a rifle that can shoot at them from Utah.
Thanks fellas, Thats kinda the way I was leaning too
Next time you hear that guy talking, interrupt him by saying excuse me, you have a big brown spot on the edge of your lip, right there! When he starts wiping at it, say, Nevermind it's just BULLshxx and it's not going to come off![:D]
quote:Originally posted by IdahoRedneck
Thanks fellas, Thats kinda the way I was leaning too
Next time you hear that guy talking, interrupt him by saying excuse me, you have a big brown spot on the edge of your lip, right there! When he starts wiping at it, say, Nevermind it's just BULLshxx and it's not going to come off![:D]
[:D]
Nononsense is correct. He is either stretching the truth or he is stretching his gun with excessive pressure.
Furthermore, there is not one reason in hello to do it. No reason for any of those overblown cartridges, neither. Just because there are deer in Texas does not mean I need a rifle that can shoot at them from Utah.
C'mon Rocky, It was South Dakota...and the Texas border not just Texas[:D]
I was getting 3150ish with 200gr match kings and 88gr H1000, but I would be scared if I saw a reading of 3300+[:0] no matter which powder it was.
I was getting 2950 with Berger 210's and Hornady A-max's using about 78 gr. of H-1000 out of my AR-30 Armalite. That's pretty close to being in line with what JustC posted. But, some barrels are different. I would have to say that with an RUM case, with all it's capacity, could produce that kind of velocity. But, it's also like the stories I hear of a guy doing it ONCE...not twice. Recoil is horrendous with 100 gr. of powder behind a heavy bullet. Damage to your face is much worse.
Bottom line: That kind of velocity with that heavy of a bullet is not my cup of coffee (I don't drink tea...wouldn't be right.) There is no sense in beating yourself up over what someone else does to themselves. I'll make a point to know when reloading is safe and when it's not.